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Michelle
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posted 30 May 2002 10:32 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey soccer fans - ready for the World Cup? First game, tomorrow morning, 7:30 a.m.!

I didn't realize the US made it this year. Anyhow,
here's the official website with all the game times and everything on it...

Tomorrow's first match is between France and Senegal, I think. Is anyone else out there a fan? I watched the World Cup for the first time four years ago because my ex is a fan, and it was such fun! I'm not so gung ho that I remember team players and stats and stuff like that - I just love to watch a good game of soccer!

Speaking of which, my son is starting soccer this coming Monday evening...I can't wait to watch a bunch of 3-5 year olds running like a pack of dogs, chasing the ball around the field aimlessly. It's gonna be so cute!

Enough of that though - what team are you cheering for!?

I think I'll probably cheer for Germany since Canada's not in the running, and my maternal side of the family is German. I'd cheer for England, but they have enough fans, most likely - and half of them are nutcases too!


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posted 30 May 2002 10:50 PM      Profile for grasshopper     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
France three-peats in glorious fashion !
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posted 31 May 2002 02:43 AM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Allez les Bleus


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posted 31 May 2002 03:02 AM      Profile for grasshopper     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

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posted 31 May 2002 03:08 AM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I will be up and at my favourite cafe, which is opening early for the game. It will also be open starting 3 AM for some games, serving cold tea.
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Speaking of which, my son is starting soccer this coming Monday evening...I can't wait to watch a bunch of 3-5 year olds running like a pack of dogs, chasing the ball around the field aimlessly. It's gonna be so cute!

Ha! Yeah, I'm sure the coach and the other parents will think it's so cute when your son fumbles the ball or misses a shot. I used to play soccer up until I was 10, and my parents pulled me out because of the offensive language of the coach and the behaviour of the other parents.

My former soccer experience is probably why I might catch a few games in the World Cup, and I'll definitely watch the final, as I've done for the last two cups, but I'm sure my coach is the reason I'm scared for life, harhar.

I really hope Brazil doesn't win. The last cup, where Brazil advanced to the Championship, I got attacked on my bike by some rabid fans. Maybe because I was white and blonde (and on a bike), they thought I was a fan of the Netherlands.


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I really hope Brazil doesn't win.

Not much to worry about there, clockwork.

Brazil stinks this time around. (compared to the last two teams)

Argentina looks strong.

I like Cameroon.

But France is my team.


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posted 31 May 2002 08:28 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought last time around, Brazil played France for the cup - didn't they? Or was it another South American country?

Anyhow, my husband and I were watching it at a friend's place. She is Venezuelan (and has gone back there to live now). She had a few friends over, also Venezuelan, and so of course we were all cheering for Brazil (darn, was it Brazil? I'm sure it was). Anyhow, as France started winning, everyone except my husband and I were freaking out, screaming at the refs, saying that the whole thing was biased because it was being held in France, etc.

About 2/3 of the way through the game, my husband was quietly cheering for France because he was so annoyed at all these women screaming. Of course, being a World Cup newbie, I just sat there and watched my enraged South American friends and my annoyed husband, and inwardly shook my head and laughed.

Speaking of getting all excited though - when Iran played the US and the US LOST! Oh man, my husband (who is Iranian) went INSANE. We were at my father's place, and he was practically dancing. We drove back to Toronto that evening (I think it was a Sunday) and we drove around our neighbourhood a bit to see whether there were any nutty fans out celebrating, and we didn't see much, just the occasional car with a flag streaming out the window. But the next day we heard that we didn't go to the right place, because apparently Yonge Street in the Willowdale area (around Finch Station, North York Centre station, etc.) was crowded with partying Iranians.

What was REALLY funny was that we were watching the Iran-US game on an American station. The Iranian team was pretty civilized, played quite well, didn't play dirty. And then, after losing the game, the American announcers came on to do their post-mortem of the game, and one of them said, "Well, I think it's clear that the US played a better GAME, but they just couldn't seem to get anything in the net..." or something like that. They continued for about 5 minutes talking about what a better team the US was, and how it was basically a fluke that they didn't win. Like, excuse me, I watched that game, and they DIDN'T play a good game! They sucked and that's why they lost! Luckily the husband had gone off to the washroom (I think he'd been holding it for half the game, not wanting to miss anything), because I'm sure I would have been hearing about it the whole trip home.

I wonder what it's going to be like in these student apartments, with so many international students around, during the World Cup? I hope there are some good parties and celebrating - it will make me less homesick for Toronto.


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posted 31 May 2002 08:32 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here we go...France against Senegal...

I think I'll cheer for France in this one. Having a French last name and all.


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posted 31 May 2002 09:02 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

[ May 31, 2002: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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posted 31 May 2002 10:24 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just realized, this post and the one before are spoilers for those who taped the game and plan to watch it later.

[ May 31, 2002: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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posted 31 May 2002 11:23 AM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Alert the CBC, so they don't publish the score on their website.
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posted 31 May 2002 11:27 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, yeah yeah yeah.

Normally people who don't want their fun spoiled when it comes to games don't look at the obvious places!

So who were you cheering for, Rasmus?


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posted 31 May 2002 11:45 AM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Senegal!!!!
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Speaking as a half-German, I can't stand the way the Germans play soccer. No soul. I rooted for Germany in the final against Italy in 1982 but that was because I was too young to see past tribal loyalty.
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Ilove Mexico. Nobody cheats like the Mexicans. They always seem to know which way the ref is looking.
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posted 31 May 2002 12:56 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Strange, I was too, Rasmus. I tried to cheer for France, really, I did, but for some reason I just kept being thrilled whenever Senegal got the ball, and I nearly jumped out of my skin when they scored. After the second time cheering when France hit the goal posts instead of getting a goal, I gave up and cheered wholeheartedly for Senegal the rest of the game.

I guess I'm just a sucker for the underdog.


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posted 31 May 2002 06:40 PM      Profile for Riffraff     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Clockwork wrote:

"Ha! Yeah, I'm sure the coach and the other parents will think it's so cute when your son fumbles the ball or misses a shot."

I have coached and refereed soccer for many years, including for the age range 4-6. Very cute. Even passers-bys stop and stay to watch, cheer, and have a good laugh. This player decides that his/her own team's net is "closer" and just kick the ball in. The other has yet to understand that there are marked lines that define the field beyong which he/she cannot go with the ball. But Hey! The referee is blowing his whistle and the crowd of players is headed toward the creek, the ball lost in their midst.

Or how about the one still chasing a player, thinking that he still has the ball, and half the players on his heels. Why, most of the time they have no clue where the ball is.

You coach about passing the ball to team-mates! Not that exciting! When I see the ball I have to run to get it!!

And the goal-keeper who was scratching his belly and surprised that the ball and far behind it a bunch of players are heading towards him. He just got out of the ball and the players' way.

The most common is that the players would always keep playing around the net, certainly influenced by hockey rules..

The best memories I have is of coaching and refering what we call "mini soccer", as their field is half a regular field.

As for bad language, I am surprised that coaches would still be allowed to coach. Personally, I have been trained and certified. So, I do not know how it works in your corner to let coaches engage in such language. I used also to have coach-assistants -amongst players' parents- who monitor the lines for parents' excesses. In the many years, I had two parents who were warned and no further problems with them.

After all we are dealing with young children who are learning. To take a game seriously and cuss, foam and fume would be abusive.

[ May 31, 2002: Message edited by: Riffraff ]


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posted 31 May 2002 09:18 PM      Profile for Liam McCarthy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I started a pool for you soccer fans here.
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posted 31 May 2002 10:07 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I happened to be in court with a Senegalese fellow when word came down today that Senegal had defeated the favorite, France.

"Finally, God speaks!" he said.


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I watched Senegal score ten times in slow-motion-super-slow-digital-surround-imax-crystal-10-feet-TALL-monitor with the players actually jumping out of the screen to grab a handful of my popcorn! ........... actually, I watched it on my slowly-but-surely dying television and watched it as many times as TSN allowed.....

I'm watching Uraguay and Denmark duke it out now.....


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Although I support les Bleus, it was sorta nice to see the former colony beat the colonizer.

But...zūt flūte, my team lost the game.


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posted 01 June 2002 06:38 PM      Profile for vickyinottawa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Go Ireland!
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Arch, I don't know how you feel about Uruguay shutting out France... I like the Bleus too, but Uruguay is such a diminutive country, and an "underdeveloping" one, falling rapidly alongside its huge neighbour across the Plata into Third-World status...

I think both teams are still in for now but it depends on the outcome of the other games. Who will be watching Argentina-England tomorrow morning?

I should be able to...

By the way there are three threads on this topic, not counting Michelle's little boy's team. I chose this one as it seems the most active.


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posted 06 June 2002 07:18 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Vicky, are you cheering for Ireland?? I finally watched the match between Ireland and Germany this afternoon (I'm getting my ex to tape the German games for me since he gets TSN and I don't - that's why I'm two days behind) and I was heartbroken. I can't believe it! Last minute of the game and Ireland ties it up! ARGH!

But what a great match it was - those guys were unrelenting on both sides.


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posted 06 June 2002 08:21 PM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
lagatta;
I saw most of the Uruguay game this afternoon on replay.

Barthez was brilliant, les Bleus were heroic playing as well as they did shorthanded, and Uruguay (will, Silva anyway) got away with some questionable tackles.

France certainly looked like the better team today, even if they didn't score or get a win.

With Henry out, I hope Zizou will be able to play against the Danes (I cheered for Denmark in '86 - but now that I'm officially 'un citoyen' I support France).


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Did anyone see some player standing in the corner take a dive? The opposing team kicked the ball right at him in which the ball hit his stomach area. The guy went down holding face. What a joke. Is this normal?

Like, I now it happens in hockey, but usually, at least, it's not so blatant.


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posted 07 June 2002 11:29 AM      Profile for Tommy M     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle
CBC World Cup Schedule has CBC's schedule of games they are showing, usually in the evening.
An american channel also shows some of the games, I don't know which one, buth they have a habit of commenting on a different game than what they are showing.

The player who faked the ball to the face was Brazil's Ranoldo, it is not an accepted part of the game and he has been fined for it.


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posted 07 June 2002 12:06 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, DeadEye! I wish I'd known that when Germany played Ireland, but since it was taped for me, it's okay.

I still can't believe it. In the LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES! Geez!


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posted 11 June 2002 12:32 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, France are out... What next?
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posted 11 June 2002 12:41 PM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Je m'en fiche.
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Ireland didn't score in the last couple of minutes. They scored in the last couple of seconds. About twenty seconds left on the clock if I remember correctly
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posted 14 June 2002 12:27 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, you're right, Mick. I thought it was that close but I didn't want to say so in case I was wrong - didn't want to exaggerate. I was still furious! However, the Germany-Cameroon game ensured that Germany will make it to the next stage. Good good good!

Speaking of the Germany-Cameroon game, have you EVER seen so many yellow and red cards!?

14 or 15 yellow, one direct red, and three people sent out of the game! That ref was nuts - it got so that to be consistent he had to card everything!


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Nuts?
Or Germany was extremely agressive, the commentators did mention the cards they also said everyone was deserved.

Those suspensions carry over too, Germany will be without three starters for the game against Paraguay. And they also will most likely lose Michael Ballack due to injury.
Germany has 10 yellows and one red.
Not to mention group E being one of if not the weakest.


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posted 14 June 2002 02:15 PM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
GO DENMARK GO!!!

Red and white!
DYNAMITE!
let's go DK
fight fight fight!


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posted 14 June 2002 02:22 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Nuts?
Or Germany was extremely agressive, the commentators did mention the cards they also said everyone was deserved.

Um, two of the three players that got sent off the field were Cameroon players, not German ones. Also, many of those yellow cards were against the Cameroon players as well. It wasn't just Germany who got them. I wasn't saying the ref was biased, I was just saying he was too quick with the yellow cards.

The commentators I was watching (on TSN) approved of a few of the cards, but by no means all of them - in fact, I think the reason why the match got so aggressive is because the ref lost all control over it by overreacting to so many of the smaller trips and tackles. They basically said that the only good thing was that at least he was consistent. The commentator was laughing near the end of the game every time the whistle blew - they would say ironically, "Oh, here comes another yellow card!" and sure enough, they were right!

It was pretty funny. At least it was even-handed - the ref was a equal-opportunity spaz.


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The German suspensions of the three are due to their recieving yellow cards from their previous matches.
They recieved 11 cards overall, for agressive play throughout.
Only Turkey has more, with one more red.
They also have the second most TTF's 4 fewer than Japan.

That all adds up to the most aggresive and penalised team in the World Cup.

If they continue to play that way they will shoot themselves in the foot.

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Yes, that's true, SCOTN. They are a pretty aggressive team, that's true. However, don't you think just maybe that ref was going a little bit overboard with all the cards? Even in other matches that included Germany, there weren't that many, not even half that many I don't think. Surely the Germans didn't just all of a sudden go bonkers in that match.

Then again, I think both sides, out of frustration at the card-happiness of the ref, might have just shrugged and had at it. I mean, sure, card when it's malicious or a really nasty amount of contact, but there were a few instances where they barely touched the other person, and the person fell, and they got carded. Other matches haven't been like that as far as I can tell.


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England defeats Argentina 1-0, from The Daily Telegraph, "Don't forget your handbags, dears". Bloody hell...this could restart the Falklands war! :-)

[ June 16, 2002: Message edited by: David Kyle ]


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I'm trying to post this without looking so the spoiler won't be on "Today's Active Topics" page - I'm watching the games on video after they've been broadcast because I don't get the channels they're on...
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Oh! England-Argentina. Oh well, that's old news. My mistake. I just saw the score and tried to look away really fast so I wouldn't see it. Eek, I'm behind on my games...I still haven't seen all the first round games...
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My Scandinavian teams have let me down again!

Ja Helver!

I am at a loss who to cheer for. England and Germany are the two powerhouses I'd love to see their arses kicked. Italy and Spain and Brazil are powerhouses too.

Japan? KONICHIWA!

Who are you guys cheering for??


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I was cheering for Ireland.....*sniff*
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I have one beer that says England will beat Brazil. My heart votes for Brazil, my head votes for England. Taker?

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Italy was robbed!

What lousy reffing! Korean homers emulate USA homers in women's hockey olympics!


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Italy was robbed!

No, South Korea played for the win. Italy played for the penalty kicks. Italy should be ashamed of their play. They barely made it into the second round.

South Korea deserved to win. Italy was...well...I'm not sure what they were doing.


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posted 20 June 2002 12:47 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree. I was completely satisfied to see Italy off. Ciao.

Now I see Perugia has fired Ahn, who scored the golden goal, in petty tribal revenge. What happened to the Italian proverb that "revenge is a dish best served cold" anyhow?


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rasmus
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posted 20 June 2002 12:52 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Playing well against Italy "an affront": Perugia soccer don
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Arch Stanton
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posted 20 June 2002 12:59 PM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
What happened to the Italian proverb that "revenge is a dish best served cold" anyhow?

Better a bit warm than forking over millions to this guy while waiting for the dish to cool.

I don't know much about football, a game in which diving seems to play an inordinately large role, but it did seem like the Italians were being tripped up or bodychecked more than is usual.


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MJ
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posted 20 June 2002 01:06 PM      Profile for MJ     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I have one beer that says England will beat Brazil. My heart votes for Brazil, my head votes for England. Taker?

Nope, I think England will take it too. But if you gave me better than straight-up odds, I might consider it.

And the rationale being given now for sacking Ahn is that he insulted Italian soccer after the match. Clearly it was tribal animus that was really behind it, but at least Gaucci has realised he needs a better story than that. There are lots of other leagues anyway, I doubt he'll have trouble finding a position with another team.

(edited to add)

Strangely, I've been unable to find anything about this on any Italian-language news sites...

[ June 20, 2002: Message edited by: MJ ]


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 20 June 2002 01:09 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rule Britannia!

Britannia rules the FLOOD CONTROL!


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Sir-Canuck-Of-The-North
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posted 20 June 2002 03:06 PM      Profile for Sir-Canuck-Of-The-North        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wasn't the Royal yacht Britannia decommisioned and permanently moored.

Who knows what will happen with the the way the refs are interfering in games, Italy did have a goal called back on an offside that in replay was not offside, the ref did give numerous free kicks to Korea in an attempt to tie the game, the ref did make a bad call when he yellowed then red carded an Italian player instead of awarding Italy a penalty kick for a viscious Korean tackle in the area, where he dug that series of cards up most are still wondering, Italy fans do have legitimate grieviances.

If it wasn't fixed then it was the poorest showing of refereeing to this point in the World Cup and that's saying a lot.

I hope England can pull it out, but Brazil has been the benefactor of some pretty onesided refing.{is that a word}

[ June 20, 2002: Message edited by: Sir-Canuck-Of-The-North ]


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meades
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posted 20 June 2002 04:34 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Vicky, Arch, I feel your pain...

I haven't been paying too much attention to the World Cup this time, since my team (The Netherlands) didn't make it this year ( *sulk* ). But for one of, if not the first time, I think I may be disagreeing with Rasmus! I was fairly saddened to see Italy knocked off. I mean, it's great that all the powers are facing new opposition from the up-and-comers, but why Italy? I was glad to see France, Portugal, and Argentina go, but not Italy. I can't wait to see Spain gone. I was quite upset when they beat Ireland.

As for tomorrow's games, I'm chearing for Germany over the US, and Brazil over England. I'd like to see Senegal win the cup, but I don't know how likely that will be. I wouldn't be terribly upset if South Korea won it (again, might not be likely), but I'm still bitter about them beating Ireland.

Stupid exams- why do they, and the end of the year rush, have to be in conflict with the world cup?

btw, soccer is one of the very few sports I can actually stand, let alone enjoy.

[ June 20, 2002: Message edited by: meades ]


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SamL
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posted 20 June 2002 04:56 PM      Profile for SamL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The best would be a Senegal-US Cup and then have Senegal pummel the US. The best part would be that the majority of Americans wouldn't even notice.

I like it when small, undeveloped Third World nations pummel and otherwise show up the established players.


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David Kyle
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posted 20 June 2002 08:35 PM      Profile for David Kyle     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I predict the semi-finals will be Germany vs Spain and England vs Senegal. The final will be Spain vs England.

Calgarian Owen Hargreaves will score the winning goal for England in the finals.


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