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Jimmy Brogan
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posted 31 March 2005 07:20 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's a black-and-white world, except for blood, which is red, eyes which are green, hair which is blond, and the Yellow Bastard.

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This isn't an adaptation of a comic book, it's like a comic book brought to life and pumped with steroids. It contains characters who occupy stories, but to describe the characters and summarize the stories would be like replacing the weather with a weather map.

The movie is not about narrative but about style. It internalizes the harsh world of the Frank Miller "Sin City" comic books and processes it through computer effects, grotesque makeup, lurid costumes and dialogue that chops at the language of noir. The actors are mined for the archetypes they contain; Bruce Willis, Mickey Rourke, Jessica Alba, Rosario Dawson, Benicio Del Toro, Clive Owen and the others are rotated into a hyperdimension. We get not so much their presence as their essence; the movie is not about what the characters say or what they do, but about who they are in our wildest dreams.


More reviews at RottenTomatoes

Sounds like an April Fool's day matinee for me.


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posted 31 March 2005 07:27 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A lot of people are talking about this movie. It actually sounds pretty good.
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posted 31 March 2005 07:46 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sorry, but Rodriguez + Tarantino = too awesome for words.
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posted 31 March 2005 07:56 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, I've been smellin' a classic for months. We'll know soon enough.

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posted 31 March 2005 08:02 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Absolutely! Tarentino is an amazing film maker. I didn't know Robert Rodriquez directed El Mariachi, Four Rooms and Desperado, all excellent movies. I didn't like From Dusk Till Dawn much and I'm still not entirely sure what puts me off that one movie.

Sin City looks like it has a lot of potential as another cult hit.


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posted 31 March 2005 08:03 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Have you read the comics? They are absolutely brilliant. And take my word well, for I am a comic book masta

This movie CANNOT be bad.


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posted 31 March 2005 08:06 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sold already. This is getting as much word of mouth as Kill Bill, which kicked some serious ass.
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posted 31 March 2005 08:38 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've read the The Hard Goodbye, but not The Big Fat Kill or That Yellow Bastard. Saving those.

It was a terrific ride. To think that they've translated it almost panel for panel in all its chiaroscuro glory . . . well I'll believe it when I see it.

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posted 31 March 2005 09:53 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's a sight where some fanboy has taken movie frames from the trailers and put them side by side with the panels from the graphic novel.

Really huge spoilers.

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posted 01 April 2005 03:31 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For those parents with young teens, be glad this movie got that 18A rating. It is bloody, brutal, violent, filled with nudity and sex, tonnes of swearing and countless other things.

My god was it a good ride. The movie went in an awesome chronological sequence and managed to resolve most of itself in a most interesting way. No spoilers. Awesome. That's a spoiler itself. If you see this movie, you will be grossed out, offended, but still stunned with how well it turned out. Thus, I say, let comic book writers and artists get a handle on their film adaptations. It works beautifully.


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posted 01 April 2005 03:44 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Going to see it Tuesday!!
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posted 01 April 2005 03:52 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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For those parents with young teens, be glad this movie got that 18A rating.

How many times will this play out at the cineplex this weekend?:

Group of teenage boys, breaking voice, "Four for Beauty Shop please."

Poor little bastards.

I couldn't get away this afternoon but tomorrow for sure.


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posted 01 April 2005 06:26 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
'nother review

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First, watching Sin City is a bit like going swimming - don't eat before you dive in. Second, Sin City is a bit like swimming in a cesspool. Third, don't miss it. Robert Rodriguez' film based on the comic books created by Frank Miller is destined to become a cult classic.

If ever extreme violence could become an art form it is here. Miller resisted attempts to interest him in a filmed version of his comics. But, a tenacious Rodriquez finally convinced him he would stay true to Miller's vision.

He didn't lie.

Filmed in black and white, with only brief flashes of color, everything except for the actors was produced on computer. The result: Sin City really looks like a series of Frank Miller drawings - stylized, rough-hewn and loaded with shadows, spattered blood and severed limbs.



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posted 01 April 2005 06:28 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Um, just a point on the black and white colouring. It was in part done that way because it keeps the rating within reason Remember Kill Bill Vol. 1 when the scene went black during the sword fight? Same reason, apparentely.
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posted 01 April 2005 06:58 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
TMN.ca has been on a "Kill Bill" binge. Vol's 1 & 2 have been repeated endlessly in the past two months. Is there really that much of an audience for these? I've seen each twice, no desire to see them again.
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posted 01 April 2005 07:01 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've watched the first more than a dozen times. More. By far. Maybe nearly two dozen by now. I LOVE that movie. The second one, as good as it is, just doesn't have the same feel to it.

The first was sooo Kurosawa, rather than the second's Western feel.


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posted 01 April 2005 07:10 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Boom Boom you'll be happy to hear the two volumes are due for a second theatrical release called Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair.

You can never get enough Kill Bill.


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Bill's dead. That should be the end. What, are going to see "Kill Bill - The Resurrection" next?
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posted 01 April 2005 07:34 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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What, are going to see "Kill Bill - The Resurrection" next?

Well funny you should ask. The rumored sequel would take place 20 years after the events of Kill Bill and centre around Niki's revenge. At this point that's nothing more than a fanboy fantasy, but QT has expressed a desire to make a prequel featuring the relationship between Bill and Hanzo and the events leading up to Hanzo's retirement. The kicker is Tarantino wants to use Katsuji Morishita and Production I.G to make it entirely in anime. This is the company responsible for the stunning anime sequence in KB Volume One.


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posted 01 April 2005 08:01 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
JimmyBrogan. Given that IG is one of my favourite animation studios, I'm drooling over this. If he could've somehow teamed up with Miyazaki to make it more of a fantastic tale, utilizing Ghibli's recent break with Disney, it would've been. What is the word? Awesome.

Cuz' I'll tell you about IG, GITS: SAC 1st/2nd Gig were AWESOME series. And really, Patlabor I and II were far better than television series and Patlabor WXIII. Although Blood: the Last Vampire, though interesting, was a let down.


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quote:
Originally posted by Papal_Bull:
I've watched the first more than a dozen times. More. By far. Maybe nearly two dozen by now. I LOVE that movie. The second one, as good as it is, just doesn't have the same feel to it.

The first was sooo Kurosawa, rather than the second's Western feel.



Absolutely. I love both I and II, but it is Vol I that I can watch over and over again without getting tired of it.

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posted 01 April 2005 09:21 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nothing will top the Hanzo sword in the golf bag.

"Guess that makes him a liar now don't it."

I think each of the chapters stands alone with The The Man From Okinawa, Showdown at House of Blue Leaves and Elle and I, being my favs.

So PB, does Sin City have that repeat watchability.


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Oren Ishii vs. The Bride at the end during the Katana Duel had the BEST...*BEST* BESTBEST showdown music ever. That along endears me to the first one. Although I cannot wait for the full Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 being joined together film. The House of Blue Leaves scene will be in full colour. The Crazy 88s getting their butts walloped will truly be marvellous in colour

^fanboy^

edit:: I'm going to see it again next week after I finish re-reading all of the Sin City books.

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I happened to be surfing around and caught the fight with the Crazy 88's at the House of Blue Leaves. (NOT YOU SOPHIE!))

Yeah, it's got re,re,re-watchability.

Deliberately missed the fight in the garden though. Save that for special occasions.

....oooo oooo oo oo oo.....oooo oooo oo oo oo......

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