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Geneva
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posted 29 October 2004 11:34 AM      Profile for Geneva     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
book out in January to argue that, based on careful study of his intimate correspondance and teenage poetry:
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/49/news-ireland.php

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Screaming Lord Byron
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posted 29 October 2004 11:40 AM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, the Log Cabin Republicans seem to think so, obviously.
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posted 29 October 2004 12:16 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well as Jerry Seinfeld would say, "he was slim and neat. Not that there's anything wrong with that."

I think the name stems from Lincoln's actions on slavery. As a group of generally gutless toadies grovelling before the main party, they'd never dare claim Lincoln was gay and further enrage their "betters."

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chimo
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posted 30 October 2004 03:14 AM      Profile for chimo        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why doesn't someone ask some real questions?? whether Lincoln was gay/not is pretty stupid, imo. it's like that fight over whether Shakespeare was gay, and that Shakespeare=Hamlet. I don't see the significance of whether someone was gay/not.
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Jesse Dignity
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posted 30 October 2004 04:29 AM      Profile for Jesse Dignity   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by chimo:
I don't see the significance of whether someone was gay/not.

Oh well with Lincoln see it matters because it can then be demonstrated that winning the civil war served the famous Gay Agenda, and right-thinking Americans of course would go back and rectify that as much as possible by starting to own some slaves again for one thing and... you know, lots of useful stuff.

*IF* he was a gay, that is. Otherwise, everything would be normal.


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Hephaestion
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posted 30 October 2004 06:43 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As my friend Jack said, "Of course he was gay! I mean, look at the hat!"


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Frac Tal
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posted 30 October 2004 06:57 PM      Profile for Frac Tal        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Parsing the past for sexuality is rather futile, I think.

The image of Hoover in a dress leaves me cold.
Miserable as he was, I hope Roy Cohn felt at least some moment of pleasure.

Was Alexander "gay"? I suspect if he were to walk into a modern gay bar, he would be appalled.

I look forward to a world where gay or straight are words that have no meaning, in a sexual/ identity way. And if you said homophobe, you'd draw a blank look.


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posted 30 October 2004 07:07 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frac Tal:
Was Alexander "gay"? I suspect if he were to walk into a modern gay bar, he would be appalled.

But then, he'd be appalled if he walked into a modern straight bar too.


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Frac Tal
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posted 30 October 2004 07:10 PM      Profile for Frac Tal        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Point taken.
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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 16 November 2004 10:38 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
abe's beard would have tickled.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 16 November 2004 01:31 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If Abe was gay, Mary would have been his beard.
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exiled armadillo
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posted 16 November 2004 01:40 PM      Profile for exiled armadillo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The image of Hoover in a dress leaves me cold.

Now theres a modern day boogey man to scare kids with!


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miles
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posted 16 November 2004 01:50 PM      Profile for miles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now the assanination of Lincoln makes more sense. John Wilkes Booth was the jilted lover of honest Abe.
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nonsuch
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posted 16 November 2004 08:20 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sure. So was Jesus. And Shakespeare. Everybody famous. In fact, it's a wonder we have as many people on this planet as we do. I guess, either because a lot of unrecorded plebes were straight, or because Ghengis Khan overcame his distaste for women long and often enough to father about 100,000 kids.

Well, at least Alexander didn't have to choose: in his culture, it was okay to swing any way you wanted - especially if you killed enough people never to be dissed.


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mayakovsky
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posted 16 November 2004 09:41 PM      Profile for mayakovsky     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The way I heard it was Lincoln had concluded some secret bi-lateral agreements. But then his Gettysburg address was revealed. I mean you can only four score so often before word gets out.
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