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Amy
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posted 20 June 2005 02:47 PM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Check it out

The UK has had some very strange news items over the past few months (thinking of the hoodies).

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kuri
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posted 20 June 2005 02:57 PM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Beat ya!
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Amy
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posted 20 June 2005 02:59 PM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Whoops.
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skdadl
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posted 20 June 2005 03:36 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So ... Is this the bar car?

I really need to relax. The slow-motion builders have reappeared to finish a tiny job they started two months ago, and I am sinking in aggro.

Help!


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kingblake
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posted 20 June 2005 03:36 PM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, you've come to the right place. I'm buying. What'll ya have?
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skdadl
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posted 20 June 2005 03:42 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Och, bless you, kingblake.

A glass of lightly chilled sauvignon blanc would be perfect.


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Boom Boom
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posted 20 June 2005 04:38 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How about a round for the house?
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West Coast Greeny
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posted 20 June 2005 04:41 PM      Profile for West Coast Greeny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is this my going away party? (teary-eyed )
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skdadl
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posted 20 June 2005 04:52 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
WCG: no. We don't do going-away parties at babble.

No one is allowed to go away from babble. You may not leave. Sit down. Enjoy yourself. That is an order.


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swallow
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posted 20 June 2005 04:59 PM      Profile for swallow     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ooh, orders sharply barked out.

skdadl, she-wolf of the Nazi SS?


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skdadl
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posted 20 June 2005 05:03 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think of self more as svetdadlana, temptress of Tashkent.
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lagatta
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posted 20 June 2005 05:08 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No, I think of her as a correctrice wielding a sharp blue pencil.

And I confess that I also remember when blue pencils actually were used to correct galley proofs...

(Though actually, a correcteur/correctrice is a sub-editor)...


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skdadl
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posted 20 June 2005 05:12 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, in French we were called redacteur/trice, were we not? Until the evil Americans invented a new meaning for "redaction," earlier known in plain English as "censorship" or "destruction of documents" or "outright lying through their teeth"?
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lagatta
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posted 20 June 2005 05:24 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The sub-editor went over the copy the editor (rédacteur/rédactrice) had edited. Sometimes this could be the same person as the proofreader, but I believe in larger and more prestigious publications, it was a distinct post. Alas, over-reliance on spell-cheques (sic!) has pretty much eliminated the profession and led to egregious bloopers in the most prestigious media. I've seen "reign in" (somebody or something) in the Globe...

Skdadl, my little Concise Oxford says: redaction: n. Prepareing or being prepared for publication, revision, editing, rearrangement, new edition. From redact: Put into literary form, arrange for publication, edit, so ~or.

Trotsky wrote a little pamphlet entitled "The Stalin School of Falsification" - that would include Pentagon-style "redaction", crude retouching of photos, eliminating individuals and groups from history etc. Creating "unpersons", as Orwell was to write, in short.

I'm off now, on my trusty bicycle, to perform my essential feline caregiver's role. So save a cold glass of wine and some tapas for my return!

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kingblake
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posted 20 June 2005 06:54 PM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've read The Stalinist School of Falsification. Pretty good stuff. Even better though is a book I bought my dad for his birthday a few years back, called The Commissar Vanishes: The falsification of photographs and art in Stalin's Russia. It has tons of well-known photos along with their original and/or doctored versions, and well-written commentary to go along with them. The amazon link even lets you look at a whole bunch of them. Highly recommended.

The cover photo speaks volumes. I also loved the successive series of the famous photo of Stalin, Yezhov, Molotov and Voroshilov (i think), one by one disappearing, until only the Man of Steel is left.

I think I need a shot. Bartender, something hard.

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lagatta
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posted 20 June 2005 10:27 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Back from catsitting and caregiving! (coaxing an ill and elderly cat to eat and stay somewhat content untill the return of the catsittee). The catsittee has just got back from her holiday. Yes, kingblake, I'll definitely look up "The Commissar Vanishes".

Nothing too hard - a glass of rosé and a little nosh.

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