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kuba walda
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posted 02 April 2003 04:22 PM      Profile for kuba walda        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Again! When will this man learn to shut up. I am all for freedom of opinion, ideas etc., but what is useful about calling people commie, liberal, pinkos?????

I can't believe the CBC even THOUGHT about getting rid of Don McLean and keeping this DUD.


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posted 02 April 2003 04:27 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe we should petition HNIC to hire a left wing sports commentator for equal time. Maybe Bruce Dowbiggin (I think he writes for the Calgary Herald but he was great when he worked for CBC Toronto and then CBC Radio).
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posted 02 April 2003 04:37 PM      Profile for redshift     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
anyone they hire better be ready to drop the gloves. anyone else getting archie bunker flash-backs?
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posted 02 April 2003 04:38 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm still waiting for his next video/dvd -- Don Cherry's Rock 'em Sock 'em Iraq War Highlights.
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posted 07 May 2003 10:23 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cherry in more hot water

I've said it once - I'll say it again; The man is a national disgrace.

[ 07 May 2003: Message edited by: JimmyBrogan ]


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posted 07 May 2003 11:19 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I remember, last year at this point in the playoffs, when the Leafs where still playing, my and a friend would go out to the bar to watch the game. And I was utterly amazed at the palatable hush that came over the bar during the first intermission.

Cherry might not be your icon and he's not mine, but I've seen my share of sports commentators. Cherry is not only unique, but he's also supportive of the sport, from the minors to the majors.

Have any of you watched Kelly Hydrey (however you spell it). Have any of listened to the other blatherers that pass for sports commentators? Cherry, for all his faults, talks about the game, still lives the game and imbues (imbibes?) a sense of hockey history into the game. Would Fox allow their commentators to pull up plays from 30 years ago?

Anyway, I can't seriously believe that someone would level this complaint. Cherry probably calls everyone a kid. Professional curtsey probably stops him from calling Maclean a kid. And, please, the kids are going to drink beer whether of not a bubba is dressed in a plaid suit or not.

[quote] The promotion is also helping Cherry raise money for Rose Cherry's Home, a planned hospice and respite centre for children with life-threatening illnesses named after the commentator's late wife.[quote]


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posted 07 May 2003 11:26 PM      Profile for NP   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
bah, gimme Kelly any day of the week. Hrudey, oddly enough, actually brings insight into the games. Cherry's shtick was old 10 years ago. Real hockey fans are sick of hearing how Darcy Tucker is an MVP calibre player, or how Europeans are dirty.

I'd be more than happy to have CBC replace Coach's Corner with back to back "behind the mask" segments.

And while they're at it, HNIC should turf both Bob Cole and Greg Millen. Non Leafs fans have suffered through enough of Cole's mispronunciations and plain Leaf homerisms. Millen on the other hand, is just an idiot.


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posted 07 May 2003 11:49 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The point wasn't whether Cherry is a better analyst than Hrudey. The point is that he's more interesting. Now I'm not a true hockey fan, so that may just be my own perspective. But I happen to think Cherry represents Canadian hockey, good or bad. I'm positive that the biggest complaint about the Canadian teams are that they play dirty. Our hockey is rougher, although I've been told that what we see now in the league isn't as bad as what it was 20 years ago. Our game is physical. Cherry advocates that game.

I'm only saying that Cherry gives a voice to the game you wouldn't usually get. Sure, he might be the Howard Stern of hockey… but no one that I've seen stops talking when Hrudey is explaining something.

As for Cole, if you think he's bad, my friend (who I defer to his expert opinion) says he has nothing on one of the local radio announcers on the FAN 590 (whose name escapes). Consider yourselves lucky.


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posted 08 May 2003 03:36 AM      Profile for NP   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I dunno Clockwork, listening to Cole during the last Olympics was pure agony. It's a tossup between his referral to the Czech squad as the "Czechoslovaks" or the Russians as the "Soviets".
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posted 08 May 2003 05:22 AM      Profile for TommyPaineatWork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It is time for a shake up at HNIC, the act is getting pretty tired.

For play by play, Joe Bowen is the only way to go for the CBC. Sure, calling play for Leaf fans on radio demands a lot of homerism, but that would be restrained with the CBC, and as far as I can tell has been on the games he's worked in Cole's absence.

Bowen injects a lot of enthusiasm and humour to a game. The challenge would be to find a good 'straight man' for him. Gord Stellick used to be a hoot, and his current one--gad, name escapes me-- former back up goalie for the Leafs-- has a dry sense of humour that's a scream. There might be better ones out there.

Selecting other commentators is pretty hit and miss. Scotty Bowman is the most successful coach in hockey, but have you ever seen him on HNIC? All that knowlege and background doesn't necessarily translate well to the glass teat.

Point taken about Cherry's reverence for the past, but I think there's others who can do the same or better.

Cherry's salient points about the game are predictable by now and aren't valuable enough to assist us in ignoring the embarassing points he makes.

Like calling Belarus "Belalagosi" during the Olympics. A proud Canadian moment brought to you by Don Cherry.


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posted 08 May 2003 05:49 AM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, but Wayne Gretzky went whining about other people during the Olympics (oh, it's all unfair!). Another proud Canadian moment.

I'm not in a position to say if Cherry is predictable. But I will say, Cherry isn't the only one speaking on Coaches Corner. I value Cherry as part of a team, and not just for Cherry.

I suppose I'm outgunned here in defending Cherry…


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posted 08 May 2003 06:04 AM      Profile for TommyPaineatWork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Personally, I'd rather hear more of what Mclean has to say, and I find Cherry an annoying interferance more often than not.

I don't think Gretzky was whining, I think he did what coaches are supposed to do, and that's meld a team. He did it by pointing out the truth, that Canada was the team the international hockey world loves to hate, and it was very much us against the world. There was a tinge of whining about the officiating, something I really hate to hear, granted, but it was all the rage, and still is, to get into that stuff.

Unless it's about Kerry Frasier, it's pretty much unwarranted.


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posted 08 May 2003 07:55 AM      Profile for NP   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Say what you will about Fraser, my amazement never ceases for a man who for almost 20 years of reffing has never had a hair out of place on his well groomed head.
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posted 08 May 2003 03:27 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
and his current one--gad, name escapes me-- former back up goalie for the Leafs-- has a dry sense of humour that's a scream.

Glenn Healy, who once said that Devil Randy McKay had "70s porno star sideburns." He's good, articulate, and witty.

I dunno, Bowen without the homerism just wouldn't be the same. Can you imagine him saying, "Hoooolyyyy Mackinaaaaw, Primeau beats Belfour"?

But yes, Bowen's great.

[ 08 May 2003: Message edited by: al-Qa'bong ]


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posted 08 May 2003 05:18 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like Healy, good bagpipe playin', Scottish-Canadian that he is, but I think TommyP is refferring to the very funny Jim Ralph, Bowen's current radio side-kick.
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posted 08 May 2003 05:29 PM      Profile for Black Dog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I can't believe the CBC even THOUGHT about getting rid of Don McLean and keeping this DUD.

Yabbut, has he had a hit since "American Pie"?
Har har.

I think Brendan Shanahan should take over from Grapes once he retires. The man is hilarious.


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 08 May 2003 07:03 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JimmyBrogan:
I like Healy, good bagpipe playin', Scottish-Canadian that he is, but I think TommyP is refferring to the very funny Jim Ralph, Bowen's current radio side-kick.

I disagree (I'm arguing with everyone over minor quibbles today - just bein' rude ol' me, I guess ). TP said Bowen "calls the play." Ralphie is funny as a colour man, though, and more of a homer than Bowen. He and Bowen (or Beyak) are one of my favourite things about radio.


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posted 08 May 2003 08:03 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why complain about Don Cherry? Mel Lastman is more of a twit and he has a more important job.

Cherry might be a nut, but he is not the disgrace that some make him out to be.


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posted 08 May 2003 09:50 PM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jim Hughson definitely is the best announcer that I have heard. He is insightful, funny and has a great announcer's voice. Cole seems to not be fully there. The occasional mistake is understandable but after dozens of mistakes in games it is distracting.
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posted 08 May 2003 10:58 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jim Hughson is the worst. He sounds completely phoney and forced. That low growling thing he does when something big happens or somebody scores a goal is just embarrasing.

So al is this you?:


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 09 May 2003 12:07 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"I'll do the thinnin' around here."

Babalouie is in good form, isn't he?
That's better than the picture on my profile!!


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quote:
Originally posted by Noah Evanchuk:
Say what you will about Fraser, my amazement never ceases for a man who for almost 20 years of reffing has never had a hair out of place on his well groomed head.

Actually, the hair is a bit of a give away. It's clear that Fraser thinks everyone at the game has come out to see him referee.

A good measure of how bad a referee is how many people know his name.

The best are invisible.


Oh, and yes I meant Jim Ralph, thank you Jimmy.

I used to watch Ralph do comedy bits on Global Sports, he was hilarious.

[ 09 May 2003: Message edited by: TommyPaineatWork ]


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JB, I guess we'll have to chalk this up to a difference in opinion...except you are wrong!!
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posted 09 May 2003 02:08 AM      Profile for TommyPaineatWork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's a guy who does the play by play for the Deroit Red Wings who uses a falsetto "Scorrrres!" to announce goals.

He has a voice made for telegraphs.


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Edited to add the smillie was for Doug.

[ 09 May 2003: Message edited by: JimmyBrogan ]


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posted 09 May 2003 02:31 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Back to Cherry, a local radio morning crew said they are gonna do a Cherry bubba promotion (not sure what it was supposed to be) with proceeds going to Rose Cherry's Home, and claimed that they were going to find out Nellie Pedro's address (the TO trustee complaining) and send the son a Cherry bubba since he wanted one so much...

Hmm… apparently I'm not the only one in the Cherry fan club…


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posted 09 May 2003 02:51 PM      Profile for Debra   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The boy in question is 12 years old a MINOR lets not forget. If his parents do not want him to have a beer can no radio station idiot has the right to interfer with that decision.

It may seem stupid, but when you are a parent you see the ways the media plays to teens to encourage reckless behaviours.

I firmly believe the reason most beer commercials seem targeted to adolencent boys is because in truth they are.


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posted 09 May 2003 02:55 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was talking to a liquor store clerk a few weeks ago about marketing the Bubbas. He told me that empty cans were a big, expensive, seller on e-Bay.

Yanks, apparently, can't get enough of the vacant tin-plated vessels.


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No one is saying the parent can't let him have the can. It's a ploy, a joke… for all the listeners.

Is there much of a difference between targeting a 19 year old and a 15 year old?

I know that as a parent it looks like they are targetting adolescents. But I know as a factory worker that they could very well be targeting older males.


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Then all I can say is I'm sorry that stereotype of the average male is true.
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No need to apologize.

Have you never heard the someone from the uglier sex say, "I wish my life was a beer commercial."

I've muttered the words before, "that's what I want to do someday. Get a group together and go down to the beer store singing, 'bub-bub-bub beer, beer, beer , beer'"

It's crass. It's childish. But I never claimed to be above such antics.


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