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fern hill
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posted 11 February 2006 08:25 PM      Profile for fern hill        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[Is this where hockey goes?]

I've never liked Belfour. I really liked Curtis Joseph. But it's time to face facts: Eddie is past his best-by date.

The Leafs need to get rid of him. And is he going to the Olympics?

[ 19 March 2006: Message edited by: fern hill ]


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posted 11 February 2006 08:27 PM      Profile for Yukoner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
He totally sucks, and, no he isn't going.
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posted 11 February 2006 08:41 PM      Profile for non sequitur     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Belfour sucks less than Darcy Tucker and Eric Lindros.
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posted 11 February 2006 08:58 PM      Profile for fern hill        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK, Leafs that don't suck: Brian McCabe, Thomas Kaberle.
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posted 11 February 2006 09:48 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If Brain Macabe and Thomas Kaberle are the only thing that don't suck about the leafs, well then, the leafs really must suck.
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posted 11 February 2006 10:36 PM      Profile for S1m0n        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cujo sucked pretty thoroughly by the time the Leafs got him. He's an OK goalie except when it matters.

[ 11 February 2006: Message edited by: S1m0n ]


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posted 11 February 2006 10:45 PM      Profile for Rambler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by fern hill:
OK, Leafs that don't suck: Brian McCabe, Thomas Kaberle.

Yea Brian McCabe only sucks at that part of being a defenseman which involves defending the goal. I guess he makes up for that by getting powerplay points and taking lots of penalties.

I hope his butt is stapled to the bench in Turin, and he only gets on the ice during powerplays. Otherwise, I could see him costing Canada the gold.


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posted 11 February 2006 10:47 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The whole thing went done the tubes after Potvin, Gilmour, Clarke, Lefebvre, and J. McCoun. Great management decision by Quinn have included dumping Daniel Markov, and that other excelent Russian defencemen whose name I can't remember.

This years decision to pick up (Slippy the Head Wound) Lindros, exemplifies everything I hate about Quinn. I used to be a fan. But they can fuck off.

Go Canucks!


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posted 11 February 2006 10:50 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But dumping Cujo for Belfour was probably one of the only not completely stupid things that Quinn has done in what seems to be his sworn mission to destroy the team.
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posted 11 February 2006 11:09 PM      Profile for S1m0n        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What *I* don't get is the popularity of Pat Quinn--he's been an absolute stiff everywhere he goes.

He's a tolerable bench coach as long as he can't get his fingers on any personel decisions, but he's an abyssmal GM.

It's like he's stuck in the past--he keeps breaking the bank to sign guys who'd have been the bomb two years earlier, but who are overpriced & underdurable journeymen now.

And his teams never win anything. Does he have a massive files of embarrassing photos of NHL team presidents, or something? How come he keeps getting hired as a GM? He's incompetent!


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posted 11 February 2006 11:14 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Exactly he relies etirely on the old boys network, put this team five years into the past and they would win the cup winning each round in 4.
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posted 11 February 2006 11:19 PM      Profile for asterlake        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There was a lucky day way back when I was a wee one. I don't know what influence steered me but I spontaneously embraced the Canadiens as my team and shunned the Maple Leafs.

Most Canadians, back during those original six years, were either Montreal or Toronto fans. There was a law, as strong as gravity, that one took sadistic pleasure in the loss of the other team as much as you took pleasure in the winning of your own. Needless to say the performance of the Canadiens and the Maple Leafs has brought me great pleasure over the years...

Go Habs Go!

Don't give up Leaf fans, Leaf fans. To quote Foster Hewitt Jr back in the 60's 'Maybe next year'. Some pearls of wisdom are as valid today as they were 40 years ago.



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quote:
Originally posted by asterlake:
There was a lucky day way back when I was a wee one. I don't know what influence steered me but I spontaneously embraced the Canadiens as my team and shunned the Maple Leafs.

Most Canadians, back during those original six years, were either Montreal or Toronto fans. There was a law, as strong as gravity, that one took sadistic pleasure in the loss of the other team as much as you took pleasure in the winning of your own. Needless to say the performance of the Canadiens and the Maple Leafs has brought me great pleasure over the years...

Go Habs Go!

Cheer up, Leaf fans. To quote Foster Hewitt Jr back in the 60's 'Maybe next year'. Some pearls of wisdom are as valid today as they were 40 years ago.



oops double post. i could edit it out but thought Foster's words might cher you up.

[ 11 February 2006: Message edited by: asterlake ]


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posted 12 February 2006 01:05 AM      Profile for gunnar gunnarson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I especially love the way they prolong playoff series that they're destined to lose. As a friend of mine once put it, that's just them getting our hopes up that much higher, so that the sound of our hearts splattering all over the sidewalk will be just that much louder when they eventually lose in the seventh game.
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You Toronto fans are the worst. Eddie is a great tender, he may just be in a slump. Look how long he has been playing at this level. You might want to explain why McCabe is your most offensive player right now. Does this not demonstrate a goal production problem rather than a defensive problem?
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But dumping Cujo for Belfour was probably one of the only not completely stupid things that Quinn has done in what seems to be his sworn mission to destroy the team.

Cuj left on his own, he wanted a Cup and Detroit beckoned. Karma bit him in the ass.

I think the hardest part of the new NHL is dealing with the increased number of goals scored when it's your team losing. They wanted to increase the number of goals and yet are freaking at what sieves the goalies seem to have all become. I guess they all figured the good goalies would suffer. Hell, even Brodeur isn't enjoying the new NHL when it comes to goals against. And that trapezoid behind the net is lame-o.


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posted 12 February 2006 02:46 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought they "failed to renew" their option on his contract.
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posted 12 February 2006 02:49 AM      Profile for S1m0n        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cartman:
You Toronto fans are the worst. Eddie is a great tender, he may just be in a slump.

I can buy this. Toronto's problem is that the franchise player is an A- forward. It's generally a good idea to build the franchise around an A or A+ player. Oh, the coach is a stiff, as well, who plays favorites and signs expensive has-beens. Sundin is a good centre, but he should be a role player on a really stacked team. He's not a #1.

Eddie's a money goalie. He's the opposite of Cujo--he gets better when it matters.


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Nope, they offered him a contract and I believe more money. He wanted a real shot at a cup, not the money. I remember him shedding a few tears at the press conference.

We offered 9 million, he signed with them for 8 million.

[ 12 February 2006: Message edited by: Scout ]


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There's a reason Curtis Joseph kept getting selected as the third goalie on all those team canada teams behind Martin Brodeur and Eddie Belfour.
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There's a reason Curtis Joseph kept getting selected as the third goalie on all those team canada teams behind Martin Brodeur and Eddie Belfour.

I think Eddie was the third goalie last time, he never played a game. Cujo started, lost and then Brodeur played the rest. And even if was selected third for all those teams, it's hardly a slight to be off three goalies choosen to compete for Canada.


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posted 12 February 2006 03:55 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought it was because he was the best looking of the three when he was sitting on the bench with his mask off.
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The leafs were never an organic team like the lightning, they're paying for it now. The point about Quinn being the old boys guy is right. This explains the disaster of trading away Bradley Boyes for Nolen. I knew they were'nt gonna win with him, and I new what Boyes might become.

Interestingly after they got rid of the good players from the early 90s they did devolope a bit of a skill team ala mike johnson, steve sulivan, fred modine. They could have been today's lightning had they gone that route. Interestingly I was looking at their draft history, and I noticed that in 97 they gave up the chance to draft first to the islanders(i believe) They gave up two spots in total. They could have had Roberto Luongo as well as Eric Brewer had they played their cards right, but alas ground up is not their thing, and they paying for it. I think they fully deserve it.

Oh and is cueball talking about Yushkevich(didn't impress me that much)


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posted 12 February 2006 05:10 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ahh, but Markov and Yushjevic worked well together. Chemistry is not a Quinn strong point.

Yeah and dumping Sullivan????!?!?!

[ 12 February 2006: Message edited by: Cueball ]


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posted 12 February 2006 09:18 AM      Profile for gunnar gunnarson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What did they end up getting for Yushkevich? A sack of pucks?
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posted 12 February 2006 09:27 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Svhela?
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posted 12 February 2006 11:08 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cartman:
You Toronto fans are the worst. Eddie is a great tender, he may just be in a slump. Look how long he has been playing at this level. You might want to explain why McCabe is your most offensive player right now. Does this not demonstrate a goal production problem rather than a defensive problem?


Hang on. I love Eddie as the Leaves' goalie.

We had a thread going back when Eddie first started with the Buds. I coined the term "Eddie Zero" (for all his shutouts) in that thread.

The Leafs have too many gandy-dancers, though. They play waaay too cute. They need a few more grinders - guys like the Bill Bergs of yesteryear - if'n they want to win.

I have a question. Why do so many of you out there hate us Leafs fans?

It isn't as if we've been gloating about anything for the past 40 years.

Is it because you're jealous of the mettle of fans who are so loyal that we stick with our team, even though they'll probably never win during our lifetimes?


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posted 13 February 2006 12:15 AM      Profile for Yukoner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm a Leafs fan, but I live out west so I also enjoy watching the other Canadian teams do well with the exception of the Habs who I have detested since I was a boy.

Here is the thing with the Leafs: They sell out their building every night regardless of the product on the ice so from a purly business perspective the are the beat team in the league. They sell more swag than anyone. When they are on the road there are always Leaf fans in the building even though most aren't old enough to remember the Cup coming to TO in '67. As long as people fill the building they will contine to ice dead weight, senile, injury prone players. Plus Canadians love to root for the underdog and I don't ever recall a time when the Leafs werr 'expected' to win the Cup.


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We had a thread going back when Eddie first started with the Buds. I coined the term "Eddie Zero" (for all his shutouts) in that thread.

The Leafs have too many gandy-dancers, though. They play waaay too cute. They need a few more grinders - guys like the Bill Bergs of yesteryear - if'n they want to win.


Then: Bill Berg
Now: Aki Berg

The Leaf's problem is that they need Belfour to be "Eddie Zero" every night in order to have a chance to win. More often, he has just been ordinary, giving up soft goals like the first one Jagr scored on Saturday. This team is too fragile to win games for their goaltender.

Quinn needs to figure out what Gainey did for the Canadiens: when your high-priced, big name starting goaltender isn't getting the job done, play the other guy.


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Belfour sucks less than Darcy Tucker and Eric Lindros.

Ummm, I do believe that Tucker leads the team in goals (admittedly thanks to Sundin's long injury at the beggining of the season). He also plays with more heart than anyone else out there on the ice. Tucker is the last Leaf that deserves to be insulted. As for why the point leader is McCabe, that's beyond me. Possibly something to do with him having the best point shot in the league.

And in all fairness, Quinn did bring the team out of the gutter, although I do think it's time for a change at the top (Quinn and Ferguson, get rid of 'em both).


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Tucker does play with heart, but he is a loose cannon and takes some really bad penalties and usually at the worst possible time. Man I miss Wendel, he was the best all round play to ever suit up in the blue and white.


As for Quinn, I think he will be fired should the Leaf continue to play like they are but he is the 'most winningist active coach*' and has taken Team Canada to Olympic Gold so he can't be all that bad, I just think he is a bit stale in TO. Bring in Ted Nolan or Larry Robinson.


*stolen from a gum commercial I saw last night


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Tucker does play with heart, but he is a loose cannon and takes some really bad penalties and usually at the worst possible time.

Maybe in the past but not this season. I've grown to miss the wild eyed Tucker.


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Since cousin Corson left he has toned down.....a bit.



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Quinn's a very good coach. Toronto, with the current team, should be sitting south of Florida in team standings. Quinn is one of the few reasons why they could possibly make the playoffs (although they are in 9th right now).

But for the love of Puck, somebody fire John Ferguson. Or give him some freedom to do a decent job, if there's interference from the coaching staff (read: Quinn) on personel. Jason Allison? Eric "Eggshells" Lindros? Wade Belak? Clark Wilm?


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Sometimes when Tucker's on the bench he looks like Tuco in this scene, when he and Blondie leave the Mission, in Il Buono, il brutto, il cattivo:

http://tinyurl.com/d6tcr [ed. this link doesn't work, but if you copy it into "File -open" in Explorer, it opens. Don't ask me why.]


There's a better image here, but it's the wrong scene, and the eyes aren't right.

Speaking of Eddie Belfour threads:

yet more guy stuff

Hockey Leafs Floundering

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Luke Richardson? When, and more importantly, why did we get this lunkhead back? (I don't read about hockey, I just watch it on Saturday nights.)

Last night, I heard his name and thought 'Oh, he's playing for the Rangers'. Paid a little more attention, and realized, holy shit, he's back.

A team full of lunkheads. And where is chief lunkhead Lindros? Big Baby still hurt? (Remember when Nordiques fans dressed up as babies when he wouldn't sign with them? )


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Picked him up at the trade deadline, as if he is the hero that is going to lead them into the playoffs. I want John Ferguson's job so badly. That donkey couldn't build a team if..well..the rest writes itself
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quote:
Belfour sucks less than Darcy Tucker and Eric Lindros.

BTW, Tucker is leading the team in goals. He has heart and talent. They should build the team around him.


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Yeah, the Leaves should build around Tucker and Ben Ondrus, both from Alberta, Clark Wilm and Wade Belak (from Saskatoon and area) and Justin Pogge, from B.C.

Keep McCabe, Wellwood, Stajan, Kilger, Colaiacovo and Harrison, pick up a few more Ontario boys and a person of the French-Canadian persuasion or two, dump the Euros on the trading table, and win the Cup.

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Gotta have the rookie Kyle Wellwood there (well, he played one game last season, so I think he's still a rookie). A cool 34 points on the season. No Alex Ovechkin, but still...

Oh, just squeaked out a 1-0 win against the Pens. I need some aspirin.


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quote:
Originally posted by JPG:

Oh, just squeaked out a 1-0 win against the Pens. I need some aspirin.

One goal against the PENGUINS defense? The leafs really DO suck!

My canucks are floundering themselves, tied for 8th with Anaheim, who has 3 games in hand.

In other news Alexander Radulov scores 7 goals and tallies 11 points as the Quebec Ramparts obliterate the Rimouski Oceanic 17-4.

[ 20 March 2006: Message edited by: West Coast Greeny ]


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The 'nucks are my secondary team. It's too bad that they're struggling too. I've always wanted a Canadian team to win the Cup again, but I really wish that Ottawa wasn't our best chance. We'll never hear the end of this. Ottawa fans have an inferiority complex brought on by years of losing to the Leafs in the playoffs, and they're going to hang on to the memory of this season forever.
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Give it up. The team sucks.

I watched five minutes of that game. It was a power play in the first period. Just before the Penguins goal was disallowed there was this absolutely bizarre sequence at the Pens Net, which almost resulted in a Leafs short handed goal.

Anyonw see it?

The play was awful all around. Both teams. Geeze.

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Ya, the Leafs suck, I'm not denying that. The game against the Rangers pissed me off. Tellqvist was playing well, but the defence just folded. The Leafs need to build a defence around Kaberle (who was just signed to a new 5 year contract) anf maybe McCabe, he still has some good hockey left in him. The offence needs to be built around Tucker, and some of the young guys they have in the system (especially Wellwood). I won't comment on Sundin, I have mixed feelings on him.
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quote:
Originally posted by JPG:
The 'nucks are my secondary team. It's too bad that they're struggling too. I've always wanted a Canadian team to win the Cup again, but I really wish that Ottawa wasn't our best chance. We'll never hear the end of this. Ottawa fans have an inferiority complex brought on by years of losing to the Leafs in the playoffs, and they're going to hang on to the memory of this season forever.

I thought they were hanging off thier cup wins in the 30's.

Ottawa's by #2 team, they have the best forward line, the best defense, and 2 of the best goalies in the NHL. They'll win it. (When I was typing NHL, I almost typed NDP, I've been on this board too long)


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Are you saying Emerson is one of the best goalie's in the NHL? I find that difficult to agree with. They do have several of the best lines in the league, of course they needed the rules changed in order to really flourish. I liked it much better when the best line in the league was Naslund, Morrison, and Bertuzzi.
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