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BATMAN
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posted 09 December 2005 04:43 PM      Profile for BATMAN     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just saw this moveie, (while high, so maybe my facts are a bit off) but is "Durka Durka" a real word? They had others like Mohammed and Allah and Jihad, but I'd never heard "Durka Durka" before.
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Michelle
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posted 09 December 2005 04:47 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heh. I'll move this to culture, even though it wasn't really you who posted it.
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posted 09 December 2005 05:54 PM      Profile for Cartman        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I just saw this moveie, (while high, so maybe my facts are a bit off) but is "Durka Durka" a real word? They had others like Mohammed and Allah and Jihad, but I'd never heard "Durka Durka" before.
Dude, just don't watch the Teletubbies high. I hear that is a really bad idea.

The image of Batman watching the Teletubbies while high is rather amusing to me for some reason.


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posted 09 December 2005 06:04 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One of my favorite movies of all time. Best line of the movie was Spotswood "heh". Said after he tells Gary "...and if you don't like it, there's the door." Gary looks at the door, says "OK" and walks out.
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posted 09 December 2005 09:09 PM      Profile for Maritimesea     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah it was a good little movie. The "sex" scene was one of the funniest moments in a movie I've seen in a while.
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posted 11 December 2005 06:57 AM      Profile for Clog-boy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This line from the movie cracked me up pretty much:

Gary Johnston: "We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild are pussies. And Kim Jong Il is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!"

Maybe not the cleanest analogy in choice of words, but it had me rolling of the couch...


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posted 11 December 2005 07:39 AM      Profile for Yst     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was rather disappointed with it. I guess I'm just an utterly humourless, politically correct bleeding-heart. I couldn't help getting the impression that beneath whatever joking criticisms Parker and Stone were making, there were caveats to that criticism that I fundamentally disagree with. Namely, "sure, America goes overboard with invasions sometimes, but on the whole, American militarism is basically a good thing" which I cannot agree with, and "sure, America has its flaws, among which is that it can be arrogant as all hell, but in the end, we should love America anyway", which I don't. Or at least, no more than any other liberal democracy on earth, and less than many.

Parker and Stone seem to have a libertarian patriotic "love your country, but hate its leaders" outlook, which is simply very different from my own.

And as far as the humourlessness thing goes, yes, I actively dislike having the word "fag" thrown at me fifty times in a row because Parker and Stone think saying naughty things is funny.


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posted 11 December 2005 08:28 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yst I agree completely. I bought this movie based upon so many people's recommendations that it was amazing only to be thoroughly disappointed in it. I don't think I had more than two laughs. Total disappointment.
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MartinArendt
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posted 11 December 2005 11:50 AM      Profile for MartinArendt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I liked the movie, mostly because I felt like Stone and Parker's perspective was as follows: America sees the world like a huge Jerry Bruckheimer film.

Team America took this idea to the most absurd conclusion, using marionettes, obscene language, and ridiculous scenarios. Team America is the way many Americans seem to view foreign policy. What was hilarious was that, every time the team went to invade another country, they ended up destroying precious landmarks (pyramids, eiffel tower), and killing tons of people, and then considered themselves to be heros.

I agree that, in terms of the politics of the film, they were problematic. But I think anybody who would go to see a Trey Parker/Matt Stone movie expecting anything remotely progressive is bound for disappointment.


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Jacob Two-Two
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posted 11 December 2005 01:30 PM      Profile for Jacob Two-Two     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, I also thought the essential message was, well, full of shit, but that didn't change the fact that it was damn funny (that was my favourite bit too, Heywood. Cracked me right up).

It's strange about those guys. Sometimes they seem shockingly brilliant, capable of such scathing incisive satire that I want to worship them on bended knee, and then the rest of the time they seem like a couple of dumb-ass yahoos with a pathological obsession with potty humour. Maybe there's a connection, I dunno.


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Woodnymph
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posted 16 December 2005 02:03 AM      Profile for Woodnymph     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
LOVED the movie. While it made me very uncomfortable in parts (due to my leftist views), at least they managed to make fun of everyone equally.

"I'm ronnery, so ronnery" - woke up every morning for a week with that song running thru my head...


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posted 16 December 2005 02:04 PM      Profile for Left_Wing_New_Democrat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the movie was meant to be apolitical. Its meant to piss everyone of. why? cuz Parker & Stone are assholes...but we are pussies...

sorry its a funny analogy and fairly accurate.
not factually but it does thoroughly ANALize the American's patiotism.


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posted 16 December 2005 06:13 PM      Profile for glacier76     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I didn't think the movie made fun of people all that equally. Where was O'Reilly? Bush? Coulter? But they seemed to include and mock all the "liberal" celebs in the US.

I thought the movie was okay. Some funny bits (the sex scene) but repetitive after awhile.


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posted 16 December 2005 07:33 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree with glacier. I thought the movie was a really rancid right wing piece of crap.

At the outset, there was a small nod in the direction of criticizing overly ambitious US foreign policy, but far the greater emphasis was put on the claim that liberal Hollywood actors are in league with Kim Il Sung.

Having seen it, their recent anti-gay attacks on some actor didn't surprise me.


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posted 16 December 2005 08:03 PM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They're actually pretty cool about homosexuality. If the South Park episode: "Big Gay Al's Big Gay Animal Sanctuary" is any indication.

(In the "fireside chat" they admit to being "maybe a little gay" and that "we're all a little gay.")

But I'd say, politically, they're a couple of really stupid dumb-fucks, who think the Florida 2000 debacle wasn't an enduring blot on US democracy, and who think that Sean Penn's concern for Iraqi civilians is "stupid" because it's somehow "liberal."

They say some really funny things, the occasional smart things, and too many stupid things.


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posted 16 December 2005 08:38 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I thought the movie was a really rancid right wing piece of crap.

Jeff, as usual you touch it with a needle.


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audra trower williams
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posted 17 December 2005 06:26 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hated. It.
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shaolin
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posted 17 December 2005 06:39 PM      Profile for shaolin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Haven't seen it and really don't plan on it. Maybe if I get a pirated copy, but otherwise, not likely.
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posted 17 December 2005 06:58 PM      Profile for Euhemeros     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Haven't seen it and really don't plan on it. Maybe if I get a pirated copy, but otherwise, not likely.

I got it for $6 previously viewed at Blockbuster. If you go to your local one, they'd probably still have some.

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But I'd say, politically, they're a couple of really stupid dumb-fucks, who think the Florida 2000 debacle wasn't an enduring blot on US democracy, and who think that Sean Penn's concern for Iraqi civilians is "stupid" because it's somehow "liberal."

There were certainly problems with the election in Florida but to blame it on a Republican conspiracy (without any proof besides hearsay and conjecture) or George Bush for that matter is just dumb. As to how the vote was taken to court, Bush won the most seats into electoral college, which is how the Presidency is decided, not the popular vote.

As for the "Liberals" in the US, I think that they're just as ideologically dogmatic as the Bushites. I suspect that most opposed the war simply because Bush supported it; if Clinton (and I'm talking about the pre-war period) were to come out and support it, you'd see a major amount of the opposition for the war disappear, especially among the Hollywood-fashionable cause types.

For Sean Penn to go to Iraq to see the suffering Iraqi children just happened to play into Saddam Hussein's propaganda machine in Iraq. Perhaps he should go to North Korea too, and point out how international sanctions are killing the people there too. But, in reality, he would be just supporting Kim Jong Il as a reduction of sanctions or other measures would simply give him more power and more ability to subjugate his people.


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shaolin
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posted 17 December 2005 07:07 PM      Profile for shaolin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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If you go to your local one, they'd probably still have some.

See, I wouldn't spend any money on it. Like, unless it's free the price ain't worth it to me. Plus, I couldn't bring myself to give Blockbuster my money.

But thanks anyway!


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posted 17 December 2005 07:33 PM      Profile for Euhemeros     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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See, I wouldn't spend any money on it. Like, unless it's free the price ain't worth it to me. Plus, I couldn't bring myself to give Blockbuster my money.

That's what LimeWire's for.


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posted 18 December 2005 09:59 AM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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There were certainly problems with the election in Florida but to blame it on a Republican conspiracy (without any proof besides hearsay and conjecture) or George Bush for that matter is just dumb. As to how the vote was taken to court, Bush won the most seats into electoral college, which is how the Presidency is decided, not the popular vote.


Um, no. There are countless incidents of fraud, voters "lost" by repug hacks, voter intimidation, the Jewish vote for Buchanan because of the deliberately confusing "Butterly Ballots," the final recount for the whole state gave it to Gore, in spite of all of this.

Read Buscaglia's None Dare Call it Treason.

Regarding mocking "liberals" for their concern for Iraqi civilians endangered by a trumped-up war, if they'd support war under a Democrat, mock them for their partisan blindness, not as agents of Saddam or Kim Il Sung.

Parker & Stone can make me laugh but they know shit-all about politics and it isn't funny.


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posted 18 December 2005 10:10 AM      Profile for Clog-boy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cool how such a ludicrous and ridiculous movie can instgate such an interesting and broad debate
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posted 18 December 2005 10:33 AM      Profile for Jacob Two-Two     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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But, in reality, he would be just supporting Kim Jong Il as a reduction of sanctions or other measures would simply give him more power and more ability to subjugate his people.

This is completely backwards. The weaker the people are, the easier Kim subjugates them, and the snctions keep them weak. The same was true in Iraq. The Iraqi people threw out the British Empire, you think they couldn't handle their tin-plated dictator? But the sanctions kept them down so that it was all they could do to stay alive (those that did stay alive. Others watched their babies die in their arms thanks to the sanctions). The people's weakness was Saddam's power.

Myself, I think the sanctions were designed to keep Saddam in power until the US could deal with him on their own terms, but this is just conjecture on my part. What isn't in doubt is the effect they had, which was to fortify Saddam's power. If they had never been instituted (except for the obvious weapons-based ones) then Saddam would not have been the president by 2000. The Shiite majority would have risen up and overthrown him.


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Getting back to the original question, durka durka is nothing. It's just made up rubbish. I had the opportunity to watch this thing with an Arab friend of mine who, when questioned if that is Arabic for anything, said laughingly "Um, no."

The song that stuck in my head was that "America fuck yeah!" It was very catchy.


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