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Boinker
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posted 09 October 2003 11:49 PM      Profile for Boinker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The abysmal record of the World Bank in dealing with underdevelopment with literally the entire wealth of the capitalist elites at its fingertips only serves to point out that a system that is based on wealth accumulation cannot deliver wealth distribution.

But what does it say about human nature that we are currently as a collectivity seemingly unable tho change the conciousness of the planet to eliminate the sorry mess we are in?

Nothing seems to work because any reasonable approach is sabotaged by the capitalist elites. Moreover, the hope that this cultural myopia will self destruct is a faint one given that Capitalists thrive on simply averting disaster and doing the smallest amount of "social adjusting" to accompluh these ends.

Is it believed widely that humanity is simply incapable of beating down the forces of oppression?


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Bubbles
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posted 10 October 2003 12:50 AM      Profile for Bubbles        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe the best aproach is not to feel oppressed, because that is just what they want you to feel, it is the motivator that binds you in compliance to the system. Mind you that is easier said then done, because we tend to be social creatures. A free mind and healthy body are the only wealth one needs, the rest are just optional extras.

Re. your question: Does money make the world go round? ....All money does is buy people, for every other creature it amounts to little more then the sceletal remains of some plant cells.


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Ubu
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posted 10 October 2003 02:47 PM      Profile for Ubu        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The next time you walk down the street, take a good look at every person walking past you. Imagine what is going on in their minds and what is making them strive toward their destination. Imagine the complex set of morals, values and beliefs they hold based on their life experiences. Imagine their strengths, talent and hope for the future.

Now imagine if we could pool this vast wealth of knowledge and desire, all of us working together toward common goals, rather than competing with one another. We'd have solved global poverty, ended war, cleaned up the environment and discovered other worlds by now.

Yes, money makes the world go 'round and we have little choice but to be a part of it if we want to raise healthy children in a capitalist environment. But, oh what a shame!


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paxamillion
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posted 10 October 2003 03:36 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So, how do you put to others (in a convincing way) the importance of setting aside themselves for the sake of anything larger than themselves?
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Courage
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posted 10 October 2003 05:11 PM      Profile for Courage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ubu:
The next time you walk down the street, take a good look at every person walking past you. Imagine what is going on in their minds and what is making them strive toward their destination. Imagine the complex set of morals, values and beliefs they hold based on their life experiences. Imagine their strengths, talent and hope for the future.

Now imagine if we could pool this vast wealth of knowledge and desire, all of us working together toward common goals, rather than competing with one another. We'd have solved global poverty, ended war, cleaned up the environment and discovered other worlds by now.

Yes, money makes the world go 'round and we have little choice but to be a part of it if we want to raise healthy children in a capitalist environment. But, oh what a shame!


90% of what people are thinking about and striving for can be summed up by; Digestion, John Thomas, Mother-in-Law, and Cash...


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stevepay
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posted 10 October 2003 09:35 PM      Profile for stevepay     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
people are naturally greedy and want more and more all the time, this is way I beleive a capitalist system is the best we have right now..I wish it could be that we all work togethere for the common good of ALL on planet earth but it just would not work, I don't see how you could motivate people to work with out paying them..We would need to get rid of all the countries we have right now . We would also need to be able to communicate in a global way, where no one thinks there better then the other guy..
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nonsuch
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posted 10 October 2003 09:43 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by paxamillion:
So, how do you put to others (in a convincing way) the importance of setting aside themselves for the sake of anything larger than themselves?

You don't have to. They don't have to.
You can help people put themselves into a slightly different picture.
The best way to do this is by example. You don't own a lot of stuff that weighs you down and makes you anxious; you don't stay awake nights, plotting strategies to win a rat-race; you have time to gather rosebuds - yet you're cheerful and your kids don't hate you. Anybody asks for your secret, you tell them: "I gave up believing that money makes the world go 'round."

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stevepay
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posted 11 October 2003 01:44 AM      Profile for stevepay     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Very good advice nonesuch.
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ReeferMadness
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posted 11 October 2003 07:12 PM      Profile for ReeferMadness     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
So, how do you put to others (in a convincing way) the importance of setting aside themselves for the sake of anything larger than themselves?

You needn't be as selfless as that statement implies. Marie Antoinette (and many others of her ilk) found out the hard way that taking into account the needs of others is a good way to keep her head.


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