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skdadl
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posted 05 August 2001 10:32 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Clersal, I just have to tell you. Yesterday I saved a little vermin life, not once but twice. One of the civilized ones, the "normals," as you call them, appeared when I was calling them in yesterday p.m. with a wee mousie in her delicate mug; I made her drop it and locked her up inside; got back outside just in time to catch the wee wild one cornering the same mousie, who still seemed to be ok; had a lot more trouble grabbing the wild one, and boy did she give me the cold shoulder for the rest of the day. But I did it! No mouse in the house!

Just opened the back door for another day of excitement. It's a jungle out there, eh?

[ August 05, 2001: Message edited by: skdadl ]


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clersal
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posted 05 August 2001 12:17 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What a nice happy story Skdadl. I got up this morning and heard bloody screams from the basement. Ah yes, Jerome, the serial killer who is not the least bit wild but I guess a psychopath. He really does have Jack Nicholson eyes. Anyhow he had, I think a squirrel or chipmunk as the squirrels here are the small brown ones, was screeching it's head off. No I did not try and rescue it as the last time it was a disaster. Forunately the Dawg was not able to go down stairs and try his hand at screwing things up. Alas another rodent gone to rodent heaven. I love happy endings though.
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posted 05 August 2001 11:10 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You're not going to believe this. A few days ago, we found a flying Squirel in our Breakfast room! It was kind of just spying on us from a top the shelves, so as soon as we saw it, I got the cats in the basement, and then fed it some hampster food (i have a hampster. Her name is Wilhelmina. I think she's dying, but they only live about 2-3 years, so it's not a surprise). Anyway, after a few hours, it found it's way out the door. We haven't seen any flying squirel carcases, so I'm pretty sure the cats didn't hunt him down afterwards.

Another complaint, it's TOO DAMN HOT!! I live on the second floor of the house, and I have the hampster cage in my room. My room is like a sauna, I've had to bring the hampster cage down to the basement three times since july already. We've been having somekind of temperature fluctuation going on. For three days it feels like march, the next three it's july in Barbados, and the next three, it's back to march. so I've been lugging this big hampster cage up and down two flights of stairs for a while now, and it's getting anoying! I'll keep on doing it as long as I have to though. I don't like it when it's too hot though.


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Dawna Matrix
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posted 05 August 2001 11:23 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At least the weather up there is fluctuating meades. We've been broiling at 30 degrees or more for what seems like two weeks!
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posted 05 August 2001 11:26 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Where do they have some real good weather in Canada? I like Newfoundland weather, though it's not for people who don't like wind.
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Dawna Matrix
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posted 05 August 2001 11:30 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yah - I heard that one time in Newfoundland the wind stopped blowing and everybody fell down.

I think Vancouver weather is nice. Rainy, but nice rain.


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posted 06 August 2001 12:51 AM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What about New Brunswick? Do they have good weather?
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posted 06 August 2001 01:10 AM      Profile for MJ     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
New Brunswick weather varies - in some places it's like Newfoudland weather, especially along the Fundy coast. Other place it's like inland Quebec weather - hot in summer, cold and lots of snow in winter. Nova Scotia's nice, except the fall and spring are both grey, rainy and kind of cold. The 2 months of summer is great, though.
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skdadl
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posted 06 August 2001 10:45 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
meades, you get lots of points for doing that for Wilhelmina. It's true that it would be easier for you both if you were in Toronto right now -- you'd both just stay in the basement.

Prairie weather is wonderful -- except for the times it suddenly turns fierce. I'm sure, though, that winters in Alberta are shorter and less extreme than when I was a kid -- and the cold is a dry cold, y'know. Well, it is!

For several years running, for instance, Calgary has had the sort of balmy mid-winter breaks that I used to associate only with southern Ontario -- weather warm enough to barbecue or golf at New Year's. That never happened when I lived there -- something's definitely changed.

And these filthy smog days -- weeks, months now! -- in Toronto are hotter and dirtier each year. We're not making that up.


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posted 06 August 2001 11:22 AM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You know what's really sad? for the first time in history, Sault Ste. Marie declared a smog warning about a month ago. I know it's not as bad as Toronto, but we've had quite a few since that first one in early July.

Go away smog!! And Bush has the nerve to say global warming is questionable .

Well on CBC Morning, they say we're in for another one today. Toronto expected to reach 33, and SSM 31.

[ August 06, 2001: Message edited by: meades ]


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posted 06 August 2001 11:31 AM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's Wilhelmina trying to cope with the summer heat:
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posted 06 August 2001 01:03 PM      Profile for verbatim   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Awwww.
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posted 08 August 2001 11:11 AM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh Skdadl. I'm afraid the serial killer has decided to go after the feathered ones. Three mornings of feathered cadavers.
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skdadl
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posted 08 August 2001 11:27 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Clersal, we just have to try to keep reminding ourselves that in cat logic, your Jerome is an epic hero, no? I mean, I don't think that Jack Nicholson has that excuse, I don't.

Still -- the beautiful birds. That's a shame. We have a splendid cardinal couple living very high above us out back. The cats spend a lot of time yearning, yearning over them, but so far Scarlet and Rhett have been too smart to come down to kitty range.

Besides, my guys, normals and psychos both, are just doing Wilhelminas these days. If it cools off a bit at night, they sometimes get it up to chase a housefly, maybe -- but for the last two nights the temperature has stayed above 20C, so they're just permanent flakers. I'm actually a little worried about the runt -- she's usually the naughtiest, but she's hardly moved since Sunday. Maybe I'll set her next to an ice tray for a bit. Isn't it a shame that fridges aren't ventilated?


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posted 08 August 2001 04:27 PM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My babies are really suffering too. We didn't need humidity warnings a few years ago in Thunder Bay. My black cat has taken up residence in my bedroom which is the coolest room in my apartment, the white lives under the dining room table. The biggest problem is my skylight in my dining room, I usually love it but I've gotten a sunburn from it this year.
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skdadl
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posted 19 August 2001 11:42 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Clersal, this time it's a complaint.

Tuesday night, vet visit: we all need flea shots, and the two wild babies need their annual shots. Fifteen minutes before vet arrives, herd all five (mutually hostile) cats into kitchen; close off. Big mistake. Cats pick up on skdadl's nerves. Cats seize up in kitchen, so much so that they forget to hate each other.

Vet, who likes to work on the carpet in the hall (says the cats feel more secure if they can dig their claws in to something -- wait for it, clersal), arrives. Skdadl enters kitchen, catches wild male, he of the great long powerful back and enormous feet, talks nice, exits kitchen, gets almost to hall before Philibert turns head, sees who's waiting, twists that powerful back and pushes off with those enormous feet, one eventually placed against skdadl's left cheek -- and he's off! not to be seen again for hours ...

Adjourn with vet to kitchen, to avoid any more carrying. No further problems, although Minnie (the Queen) sinks claws verrrry slowly into skdadl's knees when it's her turn, just to make a point. Vet finally attends to skdadl's cheek. Had tetanus shots recently? Got some rubbing alcohol? Should be ok -- ugly, though. Vet escapes.

Five days later: cheek ok -- ugly, though, real ugly. Luckily, by Friday skdadl develops the mother of all toothaches, so cheek now ancient history, when thought of at all.

Tra la la la, la la larrity
Today I herded cats with Mr McGarrity.
I wonder what will happen tomorrow.


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clersal
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posted 19 August 2001 01:39 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sounds familiar. I had the vet visiting from time to time for two big dawgs I had. Mother and daughter. They hated the car with a vengeance and I needed a crane to get them in the car so the Mountain came to clersal or rather to the fraidy dawgs.

I did the same as you, cut off escape routes so the vet was able to administer his rabies shot in peace. The mutts were terrified and just huddled. The whole thing was very embarrassing as the Vet found it amusing.

Those dawgs have long gone to doggy heaven and Alfred, the dawg, thinks I am his mother. A slight identity problem I thinks. Oh well there could be worse things. The cats are manageable and anyhow I take them for rabies shots only and nobody is due for a couple of years.


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posted 31 August 2001 10:28 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The pears are gone! THEY'RE ALL GONE!!! I can't tell if it was coons or a person, but THEY'RE GONE! OVERNIGHT! THEY'RE ALL GONE!!!

We have this very old, stunted little pear tree (Fang has pruned it oddly over the years, and it now looks like a strange attempt at bonsai) out back. I've never before seen it produce more than four or five pears, and the squirrels usually have those well nibbled by now. But this year! The tree was covered! Well, comparatively. We must have had at least two dozen fruits at the high point, and most of them, maybe 14-15, had survived till yesterday -- there were a few pear corpses left by squirrel litterers, but the survivors were very close to pickability; they had the little freckles showing ...

And then yesterday I went out to herd kitties, and it hit me at once: the branches weren't drooping any more -- pears gone! ALL GONE! Stripped clean overnight, no semi-chewed remnants on the ground -- GONE!

Now Fang says it has to be coons, but tell me how. I mean, try to imagine it: one coon, or even two, plus 15 pears ... ?? Like, how do they carry them off? Honestly, how? But who would have the nerve to come into our garden (only one narrow way in, no back lane) -- and how would they even know to suspect pears? What am I to think?


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posted 31 August 2001 10:40 AM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Perhaps an act of gawd?
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posted 26 September 2001 02:17 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've complained about it elsewhere, but anyhow, among activist types it seems particularly common to misspell Gandhi's name. G-A-N-D-H-I. NOT "Ghandi". I'd complain about the English pronunciation, too, because it turns Gandhi's name into a dirty word, but that would be too much to expect!

Next, there's the gambler's fallacy, which Thomas Friedman has just endorsed in his latest specimen of complete drivel.


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When I lived in Beirut in the early 1980s, the era when suicide bombing was born, I had a Lebanese friend, Diala, who used to quip that whenever she traveled on an airplane she carried a bomb in her luggage, because the odds against two people carrying a bomb on the same plane were so much higher.

If the odds of there being a bomb on the plane are one in one five million, then the odds of there being two bombs on the plane might be one in twenty-five trillion, that is one in five million squared (although in fact this is an empirical question, not a mathematical question). But the odds of there being two bombs, given that there is already one bomb, are one in five million. It's really quite simple.

It's called the gambler's fallacy because gamblers are prone to reason that if tails have come up 10 times in a row, then the 11th time is more likely to be heads. The odds of tails coming up 11 times in a row are indeed low, being one in 2^11. But the odds of tails coming up 11 times in a row, given that they have just come up 10 times in a row, are 1 in 2.


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Dawna Matrix
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posted 26 September 2001 02:22 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
razmus, I don't no much about speling, but i think yor cool.
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posted 26 September 2001 02:29 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well while we're on the subject of airplanes, I wanna complain again about the idiotic, byzantine, circuituous, bureaucratic, and asinine procedures, policies and structure of the airline industry.

Why does it cost so goddamn much for a ticket wherein you have to leave at precisely 12:33 in the goddamn morning to arrive at your destination just as dawn is breaking, and then on returning, you have to change planes and as usual the delay is even loooooooooooonger than you're told because of whatever reason, and... AGH.

I can't stand it! Why can't planes be cheap, easy to understand, and comfortable!?

Maybe the drastically reduced number of people flying will knock some sense into the airplane folks.


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posted 26 September 2001 04:45 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The history of the collapse of the passenger train in this country would suggest, good Dr, the opposite. If fewer fly, the executive thinkers will raise the fees; then fewer will fly, so they'll raise 'em again and cut back service; so even fewer will fly, etc etc etc, ad absurdum.

Actually, I came here to complain about going round the same block with Markbo one more time, but then I remembered we had another thread just for that purpose -- as Wingy is always complaining. Come to think of it, we also had an entire thread dedicated to Wingy -- mistakenly, I hasten to add -- which just goes to show that we should all remember to be careful what we wish for ...


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posted 26 September 2001 04:59 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.rabble.ca/news_full_story.shtml?x=2727

I want to complain about the greedy tax-avoiding subsidy-sucking executive-office crowd who are chauffeured about in their tax-deductible limousines who think it's their God-given right to abuse the tax laws in this country and not be held to account for it.

So I want to give kudos to the guy who's suing the buns off Revenue Canada for allowing $2 billion to sneak out of the country on a flimsy pretext.

Maybe if the judge rules in favor we'll have an honest-to-God revamping of the tax code along the lines of the Carter proposal in 1966.


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meades
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posted 26 September 2001 05:01 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
DrC: I too hate the air travel industry. You need only talk to Skdadl or Michelle to verify. When I went to New York state this summer, Air Canada lost our luggage. TWICE!!! TWO @%#^$#& TTIMES!!! On top of that, they also made us late for our flights, TWICE! (actually, the second time was Pearson International's fault, but it was an Air Canada employee that gave me the wrong directions to terminal 1!)

I LOATHE Air Canada!!! And it is because of the transport minister's insistance that the government bail them out that I now FULLY, AND WHOLE-HEARTEDLY DESPISE THE LPC! A good transport minister would have said that if they wanted a government bail out, they are not to lay off any employees, and the board of directors need to take at the very least, a 20% pay cut for the time being. But NOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOOO! Mr. Collenette had to cater to the big business! "Oh Yessuh, massa Milt'n! What evah you say suh!"

I say we DON'T bail out Air Canada, but we DO bail out WestJet, and Canada3000 (Does CanJet still exist? If so, we should bail them out too). Then we'll REALLY have a level playing field! Or at least as close as we could get...

RR: I'm sorry, I think I misspelt Gandhi's name along with everyone else I wasn't sure where the "H" was supposed to go, so I would switch it sometimes, or place it in both areas, in the hope that someone would complain, and you did, so maybe my plan worked out.

Also, could you please tell me how to pronounce it properly? Don't worry about expecting to much. Every since I found out that the word Muslim, when pronounced "mahwzlem" (As is common with ignorant western media) it means "oppressor" in Arabic, whenever I hear someone on TV pronounce it like that, I get highly offended, and usually have a strong urge to call in to their shows and correct them. Maybe by telling us we could educate the linguistically (sp?) challenged (I mean people who often mispronounce words, rather than people who can't speak at all)?

CNN is a big offender in this category. One thing I thought was fishy was whenever they had their so called "experts" on some of their shows, they would always mispronounce Muslim (in a way that is offensive to many Muslims), so if they're really experts, wouldn't you expect them to avoid such an amateur mistake?


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posted 26 September 2001 05:03 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How very curiously fastidious of the courts -- and of rabble.ca, for that matter. "A wealthy family"? "The family" concerned are the Bronfmans -- it is no secret.
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posted 26 September 2001 05:05 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The history of the collapse of the passenger train in this country would suggest, good Dr, the opposite. If fewer fly, the executive thinkers will raise the fees; then fewer will fly, so they'll raise 'em again and cut back service; so even fewer will fly, etc etc etc, ad absurdum.

OK, but for what it's worth, my dad was once told by a railway exec that the CPR had wanted to get out of the passenger-rail business since the early 50s, anyway. This conversation was ca. 1960, before the Trans Canada highway and cheap air travel.

Anecdote is not the singular of data, of course, but I found this interesting. I don't know whether passenger rail was merely less profitable than freight, or actually a money-loser. But I'll ask the old man how exactly the converation went.

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I say we DON'T bail out Air Canada, but we DO bail out WestJet, and Canada3000 (Does CanJet still exist? If so, we should bail them out too).

Go meades. I've resolved always to fly WestJet when I can. Only one class of passengers. Very democratic. Also their flight attendants tell jokes. I wonder if they're doing so now, though. Guess I'll find out next week.

[ September 26, 2001: Message edited by: 'lance ]


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posted 26 September 2001 05:08 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Speaking of rail travel, the Ontario gov't is taking over the administration of the GO Transit system, and are planning to pump cash into it:
http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20010926-001/page.asp

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posted 26 September 2001 05:11 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Regarding the pronunciation of "Muslim" - remember back in the Gulf War? Bush Sr. would constantly pronounce Saddam Hussain's name as "Sadam" (like "madam") or Sodom (as in Gomorrah).

I've been told that Saddam (an Arabic name apparently) means "100 traps" in Persian. (Perhaps Parviz, or even Rasmus could confirm that for me?)

CNN makes me crazy because they keep referring to "Allah" when they're speaking about Muslim beliefs, even though they're speaking English and the English word for Allah is God. But I think I mentioned elsewhere that this is a pet peeve of mine, and probably it's debatable anyway, not a hard and fast rule... so I'll shut up about it now.

[ February 16, 2002: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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posted 26 September 2001 05:11 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I continued to take the old CPR line. I knew they didn't want to keep it up, but I did not care. We gave the CP all that land in every city centre in the nation; they owe us; I want it back. As Ronald Reagan used to say: I bought it; I paid for it; and it's mine.
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posted 26 September 2001 05:25 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Speaking of rail travel, the Ontario gov't is taking over the administration of the GO Transit system, and are planning to pump cash into it:

I thought they already did administer it (doesn't GO mean Government of Ontario?). But as for pumping cash into it... amazing!

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I continued to take the old CPR line. I knew they didn't want to keep it up, but I did not care. We gave the CP all that land in every city centre in the nation; they owe us; I want it back. As Ronald Reagan used to say: I bought it; I paid for it; and it's mine.

I took lengthy VIA trips across parts of Canada in '89 and then again in '93. People were astonished that it could still be done -- thanks partly to that unfortunately named TV special "Last Train Across Canada," they thought it had all been shut down.

As for the Great CPR Land Scam: I'm still mad about that. A friend of mine used to work for Marathon Realty, CPR's real-estate arm. I refrained from asking him if he knew he was trafficking in ill-gotten property.

Old prairie joke: struggling farm family, poor wheat crop this year. Never mind, they'll scrape by. Man of the house goes out one hot day to bring in his meagre crop. Out of nowhere, Old-Testament style hailstorm. What's there is absolutely ruined.

Man reflects: well, we'll scrape by. Realizing he still has to make loan payments, heads into town to beg extension from bank manager. Manager says sorry John, no can do, make payments or I'm calling loan.

Subdued, John heads back to farm, wondering how to scrape by now. Finds house deserted, note from wife: Dear John, I've struggled along with you but I just can't take it any more. Taken kids, going to stay with sister out in Vancouver, gone to catch train.

John finally loses it, shakes fists at heaven, roars out "God Damn the CPR!!"

As the teller told me: if you don't get it, you don't get the prairies.


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posted 26 September 2001 05:30 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I took lengthy VIA trips across parts of Canada in '89 and then again in '93. People were astonished that it could still be done -- thanks partly to that unfortunately named TV special "Last Train Across Canada," they thought it had all been shut down.

I keep meaning to take a month off and get a 30 day, Via/Amtrak north-american pass. I think that'd be a great trip. Sleep on the train, wake up in a new city every day. See the "real (North) America".

Unfortunately, the 30 day pass ain't cheap.


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posted 26 September 2001 05:48 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In '93 the 30-day pass VIA pass cost us something like $385, which was the student rate. It actually gave us 12 days travel over a 30 day period. I didn't know there was a VIA/Amtrak pass.

It gravels my ass that between Toronto and Vancouver, VIA now takes the CN route. Result: no Spiral Tunnels (though you do get Mt. Robson and Jasper, which is some compensation), and no north-shore-of-Superior (instead, you get hundreds of miles of indistinguishable Northern Ontario scrub bush, repeating like a Flintstones background, together with the worst slag heaps and most hideously murdered creeks of Sudbury. We think no more of INCO, indeed).

At least I got to do the Spiral Tunnel portion in '89. But the last time I was on the Superior run I was seven months old.


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posted 26 September 2001 06:14 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, Michelle, "sad daam" means 100 traps. Of course that's not what his name means in Arabic, I assume.

"Muslim" pronounced "muzlim" does indeed mean oppressor. "Mussalmaan" has no such confusion but for some reason it's gone out of fashion. So "Musslim" it is.

I don't like the way they always say "Allah" either. Do they say "Yahweh" when they talk about Jews? Do they talk about "Dieu" when they talk about French Christians? Do they say "Bhagavaan" when they talk about the Indian deity?

Meades, I could never get mad at you. Now. Gandhi. Long "a" like in "father"; that's OK. The "d" is NOT the English "d" but the French "d" -- yes, it's different, in case you hadn't noticed! And then the "h" means the "d" is aspirated, sort of like the "dh" in hardhearted, but again, using the French "d", which is a dental "d", i.e. pronounced with the tongue against the teeth. The English "d" is pronounced with the tongue touching the ridge just behind the teeth, which sounds to Indians like their other "d" which is pronounced by the tongue curled up to the roof of the mouth. If you use that "d" and don't aspirate, then you make a dirty word. (Depending on the dialect, most words beginning gaanD- are dirty in North India.) Actually the aspiration is not technically aspiration except in the unvoiced consonants "th", "kh", "ph" etc. In the voiced consonants, "bh", "gh" etc. it is actually a murmur of the vocal cords that sounds like aspiration but this is too hard to communicate except in person, and anyhow most native speakers don't even realize this is what is happening.

Since you asked, Meades...

[ September 26, 2001: Message edited by: rasmus_raven ]


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posted 26 September 2001 06:52 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
YAY! I've been pronouncing it right! All though the French "D" against the teeth is new to me. I noticed the difference between English and French "D"s, but when I say a "D" word in French, I pronounce it with the upper-middle (upper being near the tip) part of my tongue against the the roof of my mouth. When I went to Québec last summer, I stayed with a woman who was bilingual, and she didn't notice (or she at least didn't tell me), so maybe the sound isn't that different.

As for Allah, from what I've read, Allah means "the one true god" (or something similar) in Arabic.

BTW, A few years ago, I bought a book called "Arabic with ease". Well they lied. I didn't get past the alphabet. But in their pronunciation guide, they said to pronounce "DH" as the "TH" sound in the word "THe". Is that the general pronunciation of "DH"?


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posted 26 September 2001 06:55 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Which "dh"? There are three of them in Arabic. One is pronounced like English "th" in "then". The other two are haaard.
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posted 26 September 2001 06:56 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oops! Forgot one thing. No one knows where the vowels go in the word "Yhwh" (that's the proper spelling). That may seem odd, but originally, Jews never spoke the name of god out of respect, so all they had was the spelling (Which should never be written on a surface that can be destroyed. Oops!). Now, that was thousands of years ago, so the pronunciation was forgotten by the time the rabbi's started using special markings to symbolise vowels (that were used to help people, mainly converts, learn Hebrew). So we don't know how to pronounce it, or where the vowels go. Oh well. The word "god" works just fine.
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posted 26 September 2001 07:02 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Although if you're Orthodox, you're meant to write G-d.
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posted 26 September 2001 07:05 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
yeah. I try to do that, but I keep on forgetting. So I'm very sorry to all the Orthodox Jews reading right now. Though I don't think there are, since, as far as I've seen, I've been the only person to write "g-d" like that in a post.
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posted 26 September 2001 07:10 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
RR: I have the book in front of me, and they only have one "DH", how is "DH" pronounced normally? Anyway, it's the "DH" that looks like a semi-tilted backward "C" with a dot above it. They say the name is "Dhaal"
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posted 26 September 2001 08:43 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
BTW, A few years ago, I bought a book called "Arabic with ease". Well they lied. I didn't get past the alphabet.

Isn't that interesting. I did the same thing with Persian. (It's the same alphabet as Arabic with a few small variations.) I had no trouble with the alphabet (in fact, if someone says a word in Persian I can usually spell it perfectly unless there are unusual letters in it), and I had no trouble with the grammar rules. If you dropped me in the middle of Iran right now, I could probably pick it up quickly from what I've learned.

My only problem is, I'm great at picking up the written language, but I find conversational Persian much more difficult. So that's why I never learned how to speak it. Also, becoming fluent in writing it is difficult when you aren't fluent at speaking it. I wish I had learned it well - I think it is important that my son learns it. Hopefully his Dad is teaching him.


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posted 26 September 2001 08:43 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
meades: I wouldn't worry about being fastidious about writing "G-d". I'm an atheist and I don't give a bricklefritz how you write it.
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posted 26 September 2001 11:31 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, dhaal is pronounced like English "th" in "then".

As for the other letters, there is what they have as "Th:aa" here, and also there is "Daad" which is the real pain:

OH PS I think you can click for the sounds.
Nope, you'll have to go to the original website. http://www.arabic2000.com

[ September 26, 2001: Message edited by: rasmus_raven ]


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posted 27 September 2001 12:19 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cool. The letters have mostly the same names in Persian. But Persian has four more letters. I know them all in order because my son has an alphabet video from Iran (it is so interesting) where they sing the names of the letters to the tune of Ode to Joy...

Alef... (start Ode to Joy here) beh peh teh seh jeem cheh heh kheh daal zaal reh zeh zheh seen sheen... saat zaat taah zaah eyn gheyn feh gaaf kaaf gaaf laam meem noon vaav heh... (special ending) yeh...yeh...yeh!

(I guess they had to do the first and last letters - Alef and Yeh - that way since there are only 30 notes in Ode to Joy, and the alphabet has 32 letters! )

Rasmus, what letter do they use in Arabic for a "p" sound? I noticed they don't have Peh in that alphabet. The other letters that Persian has that Arabic doesn't are Cheh, Zheh, and Gaaf. The "p" and hard "g" sound seem like pretty basic sounds - how do they do without them in their alphabet? How do they replace those sounds with the other letters? (If anything, you'd think they'd get rid of one of the extra "s" or "z" characters, but hey, what do I know? )


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posted 27 September 2001 01:50 AM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry I am going into humourless philologist mode here -- it's my German blood acting up. No, Michelle, they don't have "pe". Period. No "p" -- that's why "paarsii" becomes "faarsii", and "ispahaan" "isfahaan", which even the Persians adopted later. "P" goes to "f" in Arabic. Like "g" goes to "j".
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posted 27 September 2001 03:56 AM      Profile for JCL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:

Yah - I heard that one time in Newfoundland the wind stopped blowing and everybody fell down.

Dawna, that's a funny joke. It made me laff and laff and laff.


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posted 27 September 2001 10:33 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Get out! So you're saying that Farsi and Isfahan used to be called Parsi and Ispahan in Persian until they started using the Arabic alphabet, and then they adopted the current forms? Geez, no wonder they decided to add a few extra letters to the alphabet. Imagine no hard g or p sound.

Then again, Persians think we English are horribly limited by having no "gh" or "kh" sound too...


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posted 27 September 2001 10:54 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now, that is odd. I'm no Scots-Gaelic expert, but there's an f-for-p modification that happens to many Highland names somewhere back there in the late Middle Ages -- eg, modern Macfarlane was originally MacParlan, son of Parlan (Bartholomew), and Macpherson was Macparson, son of a parson.
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posted 27 September 2001 11:42 AM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am back to complaining about cats.

One cat I never mentioned, Josephine, as she disappeared in early April and I was glad to see her gone. A real sour puss of a cat. No pu intended. She reappeared yesterday and caused havoc among the inhabitants. Now she is not only sour but wild. The two young cats are nervous wrecks as they, in their panic mistook their mother for Josephine. The dawg growls, Josephine growls and I don't know what to do. I have visions of a one eyed dawg.

Also the serial killer, yes he still is killing, unfortunately his rodents seems to be upsetting his tummy. Yecch.

Maybe I should switch to a gold fish.


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posted 27 September 2001 11:54 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, clersal, I'm here to argue for Josephine -- surely we have to give her a chance. Disruption for the first few days -- ok, maybe weeks -- still, it will settle down. It will; I'm sure it will. My old guy, Redcliff (may he rest in peace), was wild when I first got him, tried to mount the sainted Oyster (may she rest in peace), to whom thoughts of sex had heavens! never occurred -- and yet he calmed down ... My two little ones were wild, and the male is still daunting sometimes -- all five cats now snarl at one another -- and yet.

Think Cyprus, clersal. You'll never have peaceful coexistence, exactly, but once they've each established a perch, you can get a bit of a truce, sort of -- with a little police work, maybe ... What makes a difference, I think, is that each is attached to you. You have to, um, love Josephine, clersal -- grit your teeth, and, um, love her. Oh, forgive the evangelizing, but I gotta campaign for Josephine! Give a negotiated peace a chance?


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posted 27 September 2001 12:02 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hate it when I buy a muffin, thinking it's chocolate chip, and then when I bite into it I discover that it's actually blueberry.
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posted 27 September 2001 12:31 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I do like her, a teeny bit. I wouldn't mind Foxy Loxy taking her for a ride on his tail though. Whoops wrong one. Didn't Foxy take the scorpion and got bit for his troubles? Whatever. I certainly wish everyone would cheer up as winter is sneaking up. Winter is long in these here parts. We have only two seasons. Winter, a bit more winter. Summer, a taste of winter and winter. It makes four but feels like three.

I think I will write an ode to the blackfly.


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posted 27 September 2001 12:42 PM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Years ago I wrote a sonnet (I think, I'm not educated in poetry forms) to winter. I'll try to find it and post it.
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posted 27 September 2001 01:50 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'd like to complain about my mug going missing the very first day I brought it into the office. I really liked it. It read

I (heart) Allah

Now, I wonder why that disappeared?


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posted 27 September 2001 02:17 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sheesh. Got any candidates?
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posted 27 September 2001 02:48 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Are you colourblind, mediaboy? I am, at least partially.

Cats. I'm catsitting three cats. One of them is a known puker. Seems like sometimes when she pukes any old where she likes to poo there too just for good measure. Another seems to have been abused in a previous life (they're all found cats) and even if she trusts you, when you make to pet her she cringes. Also people wearing shoes scare her. She's a little psycho. When she wants you to pet her, you can do it for a minute until she suddenly starts swiping at you with her claws. Also, the first or second day of catsitting she peed on the upstairs runner, which is now in the garage. After that I was mad at her but I decided that "love conquers all," so I didn't show it. The third cat is a sweetheart, but she likes to come walk on the keyboard when you're using it. She gets real excited by people at keyboards and then she starts dribbling snot from her nose onto the keyboard.

One of the cats, the psycho, likes to wake me up by meowing for no particular reason -- she's not hungry and doesn't want to go outside, nor does she want to be played with.

[ September 27, 2001: Message edited by: rasmus_raven ]


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posted 27 September 2001 03:07 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
rasmus. rasmus, rasmus -- none of that sounds like psychotic behaviour to me (from a cat) -- it all sounds perfectly normal (from a cat). And see? You've already discovered that when you get to know them, they really are quite different one from another; each has his/her own peculiar little personality! You're doing so well, rasmus. I am proud of you.

PS: The one who pee'd on the carpet -- male? If so, he could be competing with you ... Act submissive, and he'll condescend to be nicer to you.


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PS: Oh. I see she's a she. In that case, never mind about acting submissive. She's just anxious. Endless reassuring attention is your only solution there (except it won't be a solution, because it'll have to be endless).
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posted 27 September 2001 03:29 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have been endlessly reassuring. She likes me now, but that clawing thing still happens.
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posted 27 September 2001 04:23 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
does she let you pet, and then starts scratching?
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posted 27 September 2001 04:27 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yep.
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posted 27 September 2001 04:28 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How old is she?
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posted 27 September 2001 04:42 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know because she's found. But she's at least five years old.
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posted 27 September 2001 04:56 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The one who pee'd on the carpet -- male? If so, he could be competing with you


I thought I was the only guy who has peeing competitions with his cat! I always win. Milhouse just can't get the distance I can.


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posted 27 September 2001 05:15 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Languages: I think the main reason I couldn't get beyond the Arabic alphabet was 1) I'm a very oral person, so I find it much better for someone to actually teach you a language, or to have cassettes and such, and 2) I was a bit embarassed when I was practising the alphabet and had to try to pronounce Geyn. So I wasn't able to practice orally. At least not comfortably.

Cats: That petting vs. scratching thing? My black cat does that too, but it's because she's a bitch, not any sort of psychological trauma. That or she's inbred. We got her from a breeder, so I think it must be the inbred thing. stupid cat.

She'll let you pet her for about ten minutes, sometimes more, sometimes less. She'll be purring, and rolling around, and she'll make you think she's in a state of eternal bliss, nirvana, if you will (I don't know much about Budhism, so please correct me if I'm wrong). Then, when she lulls you into a false sens of security... BAM! As fast a lightning, she digs her claws into your hand, rolls into a ball, surrounding it, and then, to add insult to injury, bites you!
stupid, bitchy, inbred cat. I'm surprised she can stand up.

A new complaint: Is there no season that I can be free from illness? In the summer, it's allergies to pollen, in the winter, I always catch a cold, and my nose gets terribly runny (Worst of all! rrrr! ), and in the spring and autumn, it's the worst of both worlds! And then I have an allergy to dust all year round! Yippidy doo daa day!

Today in math class, I war rubbing my nose so much, and felt so miserable, that I actually felt like hitting the teacher because his lesson was taking too long, in addition to him over explaining, and repeating himself! I felt this way because I didn't want to interupt the lesson to go get tissues, which were oh so conviniently located at the opposite end of the classroom (that one's my fault. I should have chosen a better seat, or gotten tissues before class started).

And it was the worst kind of runny nose too! You know, when only one nostril is runny/clogged up, so you're constantly wiping with tissues, and sniffing, and blowing your nose, but there's nothing wrong with the other nostril, so that one gets so dry that it's painful, and almost feels like it's burning! Then you try and tilt your body to distribute the clogged...ness (what the hell is the word for that?) and somtimes it works, but not today, because nothing can go your way today! You're in public! Why should you bee happy, and healthy in public?! NOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOO! You're not on enough of an angle! It just keeps on getting worse! The other one gets dryer and dryer and dryer, while the runny one decides to try and beat Maurice Green's record! AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's better now, but I'm not fully healthy yet.

Oh well. We'll see what delights tommorow brings.


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posted 27 September 2001 05:22 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Aw, meades ... (giggle) I only know a pallid version of what you bring to life so vividly there -- something like that happens to me when I have a cold and I'm trying to sleep -- have to wake up regularly and think, well, that nostril's full; better turn and let it drain over to the other side. Compared to your agony, though, mine is a tame thing. (giggle)

The scratching and biting thing: remember that if your petting is really giving the cat pleasure, then you're actually working him/her up to a bit of polymorphous-perverse pleasure-frenzy -- ie: those bites are love-bites, guys. It's true, you have to figure out ways and ways to survive 'em, depending on the cat. Most cats learn a little restraint -- they don't want to hurt you (they don't want to make you mad).


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posted 27 September 2001 06:20 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just asked about the scratching thing because that's what the kids' cat used to do - and it was related to a congenital heart problem.
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posted 27 September 2001 11:35 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A cat I used to see a lot, my all-time favourite cat, was a real sweetheart. He was huge, a massive cat, not fat but really big. But he was scared of anything and everything. Knock at the door? He'd burrow under some furniture upstairs. Any strangers in the house, any loud noises, and he'd be off. It took him six weeks to get used to me, but then he loved me more than anyone. Once he scratched me with his back claws when we were playing and then I whapped him, sharply but lightly, with two fingers, and his head shot up in curious surprise, but he never did it again.
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posted 28 September 2001 04:46 AM      Profile for JCL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rasmus - Maybe you accidentally stumbled across a "do it yourself cat spay manuever." Save $$$ by doing it yourself than pay a vet to snip him in the buds.
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I would like to complain bitterly about the fact that I an no longer attractive to women.

I just don't get it - I am a nice guy. I have nice eyes. I am kind, and I am in the prime of my life.

I am not a boring person, so I just dunno what to say anymore.


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Hmmmn. You haven't met VerbaTim yet, have you?

(Speaking of which, where is VerbaTim? He was only posts away from joining the DrConway Club.)

But back to the issue: you say "no longer" attractive to women: since when do you date the problem? Your email address is promising.


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posted 28 September 2001 11:27 AM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Feline love-bites: I like to play rough with Milhouse (throwing him around on the couch, rubbing his belly, etc.). I get lots of scratches and bites, but they really don't hurt THAT much, and I know I deserve them.

If your cat's scratches hurt that much, maybe it's time to trim your cat's claws? Milhouse gets a trimming every week or so.

When I'm in bed, sleeping soundly, with my foot hanging over the side of the bed, and THEN he pounces on my foot, THAT'S when I get annoyed. But it passes after a few seconds. I think to myself, "boys will be boys," and I go back to sleep.

Sometimes I torment him with the laser pointer, as a bit of revenge.

[ September 28, 2001: Message edited by: Kneel before MediaBoy ]


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posted 28 September 2001 11:33 AM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Big snake sale:
The key here is masturbation. And, in case some people want to read in some kind of misogynist overtone, I prescribe masturbation for the “oh, why do I always date morons” or “why doesn’t he love me” members of the female persuasion. If you want, every once and a while get a hooker. At least in the hooker/john relationship, the terms and conditions have been reduced to first principles.
And no alcohol can be consumed. People go all delusional on alcohol, thinking that phoning ex’s at three in the morning is okay. Weed, cocaine, ecstasy are all substitutes. Cocaine is especially good since it stimulates the same brain centers that are also active when in “love”. (however, it’s expensive and the people I’ve seen on it can’t stop snorting it… line after line, after line, so don’t be getting carried away). Alcohol is a dangerous drug for the lovelorn.
And if you’re burdened with thoughts of “starting a family” from a relationship, well, join big brothers. All the fun without having to deal with all the problems and responsibility.

After a year on my program, you won’t even know what you were missing.


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 28 September 2001 11:38 AM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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And no alcohol can be consumed. People go all delusional on alcohol, thinking that phoning ex’s at three in the morning is okay.


I'm especially susceptible to e-mailing ex-girlfriends at three in the morning. That's even better.


"Dear So-and-so,

O habwea yalfed to you ina whiole, eH: What's UP>

My Lafe hawds beeerqnoui pertyy goods latelad. Johnw aaaaadh

So, dropws me a lane soem atinna."


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Dawna Matrix
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posted 28 September 2001 01:33 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
big snake - what are you like? Not what do you look like, but what are you like?
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posted 28 September 2001 02:14 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I would like to complain bitterly about the fact that I an no longer attractive to women.

I just don't get it - I am a nice guy. I have nice eyes. I am kind, and I am in the prime of my life.

I am not a boring person, so I just dunno what to say anymore.


*WingNut enters serious mode (gasp!)*

Snake guy, I had found myself in your predicament. While bemoaning my lack of a relationship, using your words almost exactly, to a female friend, she offerd some advice. She said, it is not enough to simply want a relationship, you must also be open to one. Took me a while to figure that out as I do not have the mind of a jedi knight, but I concluded it meant letting me defenses down, losing my baggage and most importantly, stop trying so hard. Give it a try.

* WingNut exits serious mode and thank God because no one needs me to be serious.*


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posted 28 September 2001 02:27 PM      Profile for Eddie Lear     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
your right wingnut,your not very good at it
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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 28 September 2001 02:28 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why do I suddenly have the Degrassi Junior High theme song in my head?
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WingNut
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posted 28 September 2001 02:32 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why thank you Eddie. I do appreciate your noticing. Not being good at being serious is a serious personality flaw. Especially at funerals.

Reminds me of a joke from a stand up comedian:

Every time I go to a wedding, my aunts keep asking: So, when is it your turn?
Now, whenever I see them at a funeral, I ask my aunts: so, when is it your turn?

Anyway, back to you. How is your ass?


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posted 28 September 2001 02:37 PM      Profile for big snake sale     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I sort of look like Bruno Gerussi
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WingNut
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posted 28 September 2001 02:38 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Who?
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posted 28 September 2001 02:47 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You don't know who Bruno Gerussi is?!

My GOD!!! What do they teach kids in Canadian schools these days?!?!?! Bruno Gerussi is the most important Canadian public figure of this or any century!!!!


I gotta lie down. I may faint.


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clockwork
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posted 28 September 2001 02:51 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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After an extensive career in stage, radio, and television and film, Bruno Gerussi has become one of Canada's most highly recognizable actors and television personalities. Despite the diversity of his career, the Canadian-born Gerussi is best known for his role as "Nick Adonidas" on Canada's longest running television series, The Beachcombers (1972-90).
http://www.mbcnet.org/ETV/G/htmlG/gerussibrun/gerussibrun.htm

Even I had to look it up… and I think I recognize him


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posted 28 September 2001 02:54 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think Mondo Canuck should be used in high school history classes as the primary text-book. Fuck Sir John A, Mackenzie-King and Louis Riel. The really important Canadians to study are Don Messer, Bruno Gerussi, and that indian dude from The Forest Rangers.
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posted 28 September 2001 03:31 PM      Profile for big snake sale     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Joe Three Rivers - one of my faves. Never liked the skinny kid on The Forest Rangers.
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Ian the second
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posted 28 September 2001 03:48 PM      Profile for Ian the second   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've got cat problems up the Yin-Yang. I took two cats - one Siamese and the other a big, black cat, off of my buddies' hands "for a couple of weeks". That was like ten months ago.


Anybody want some cats? They're REALLY nice. Honestly. They don't shit, and barely eat.


Ian


P.S. Why can't you find a decent gas-mask nowadays?! Armageddon could come at any moment, and I might as well be naked!


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posted 28 September 2001 04:35 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think it was skdadl that mentioned earlier that all cats have different personalities. The cat that I am closest to is Batman (Robin ran away). Batman is a LORD. He will deign to show affection if you are willing to sit still and pamper his royal ass. He is very studied in his actions. Once I was watching TV, and Batman was sleeping on another chair. He must've been chasing a mouse in his dream because he fell off the chair and landed with a thud. I started to laugh at him. He took one look at me, and regally stalked out of the room. 'I don't have to take this from a plebe' was written all over his face. I didn't have the guts to make amends to his royal personage, but later we made up over some Pounce treats.
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posted 28 September 2001 04:36 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
HEAVENS!!! If the cats don't shit, I'm surprised you've been able hold on to them for even those two weeks, let alone the ten months!! I know, that was really stupid. I just couldn't resist.

Mediaboy: Milhouse and the feet thing reminds me of my other cat, the one that isn't inbred. If you have a blanket over yourself, and the cat is sleeping on your legs, or whathaveyou, if you even move your feet just slightly, he'll pounce on them! He must think there are mice under the blanket or something, because when you get mad, and take off the blanket to show him he just attacked your feet, he always looks surprised.


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posted 29 September 2001 06:11 AM      Profile for JCL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wanna bitch about those stupid packets that are sometimes impossible to open. It's no big deal when by yourself. When there is a cute woman nearby, it can be embarrassing cos she might wanna beat me up and steal my wallet when she sees that I can't open a stubborn mustard packet every once in a blue moon.

As for Beachcombers, the stories were dumb. My folks LOVED that show. Actually, I can't remember much except the plane flying low over the logs at the end credits. Wasn't there a town drunk with a toque on and bore a slight resemblance to Jean Chretien?


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posted 29 September 2001 06:25 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Relic, IIRC.
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posted 29 September 2001 09:54 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ian, I'm serious. No, I can't take the cats -- I have five I've rescued already.

But it is serious to me when I hear of cats living with someone who doesn't want them. Do you seriously not want them? In that case, they should be somewhere else, and I will help to get them somewhere else. Get in touch, and I'll do it.


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posted 29 September 2001 11:53 AM      Profile for Lard Tunderin' Jeezus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I feel the need to bitch about pet owners - particularly the urban kind. The cat people who go on and on and on about their darling little slaughterers of songbirds, and even more so about the dog people.

Dog people cannot walk their animals past my lawn without letting them urinate where my children play.

Whenever they believe themselves unobserved, they leave their animals feces behind for others to step in, or clean up. The local park designated as a 'no leash' zone might as well be an open sewer, so these doglovers just unleash in the local parks by the childrens playground.

These people cannot seem to read the signs barring their animals from the schoolyards, so the local high schools end up locking the gates to their fields - so their own students don't have access, either.

Needless to say, I'm disgusted with the breed.

[ September 29, 2001: Message edited by: Lard tunderin' jeesus ]


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posted 29 September 2001 12:31 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Strangely enough I agree with you LTJ. In spite of my posts.

I too am not wild about my cats bringing in a tweety bird, or even a rodent as they are never dead, or rarely dead when the cat brings them in the house. I suppose if I didn't feed my cats they would manage quite well and probably be healthier. I also would not have to see the cadavers.

Fortunately I live in the country and very few of the people who live in the village have a dog! So encountering dog crap is rare.
I got your point though and it is valid.


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posted 29 September 2001 12:39 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
LTJ, what clersal said.

Cities: there's part of the problem. I love dawgs, but we live on the corner of a park, and we feel like a target ...

I promise you, Lard Tunderin', this summer, my five assassins, the body count included no birds -- two mice and a lot of butterflies (sorry about that -- one for sure was a Monarch). And the perps are in prison now till April, whenupon they will be older and slower.


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posted 29 September 2001 01:13 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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You don't know who Bruno Gerussi is?!

My GOD!!! What do they teach kids in Canadian schools these days?!?!?! Bruno Gerussi is the most important Canadian public figure of this or any century!!!!


M'boy, when I read your first sentence, I thought, well, WingNut's done it again.

Then I read the next two and laughed. You two are made for each other. When do you set up housekeeping together?

I want to complain about cats who know perfectly what they're allowed to scratch, and what they can't scratch without getting a blast from the spray bottle, but who take advantage of their extreme cuteness to push the envelope anyway. Impudent wretches.


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