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speechpoet
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posted 01 November 2004 01:06 AM      Profile for speechpoet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not bad so far. Paul Gross is convincing, and for once he looks his age. (Jealous? Moi?)

Anyone else watching?


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Anchoress
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posted 01 November 2004 01:10 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No but my mum was saying she's going to make a trip to the community centre in her town so she can watch it (no TV at home). When's the conclusion?
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speechpoet
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posted 01 November 2004 01:13 AM      Profile for speechpoet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tomorrow night, 8-10 p.m. Hope she enjoys it.

I'm looking forward to hearing what Ian Waddell thought of it.


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Rush
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posted 01 November 2004 01:37 AM      Profile for Rush     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by speechpoet:

Anyone else watching?

I'm watching it and plan to watch the conclusion tomorrow.

I didn't see any party names shown on screen or spoken by any of the characters. That seemed a bit wierd to me.


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speechpoet
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posted 01 November 2004 01:49 AM      Profile for speechpoet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was writing a spec ages ago about Canadian politics, and tried to do it without mentioning party names. "The other guys", "those wackos on the left", "those right-wing jackasses", "our team"... it felt pretty contrived, and I eventually said screw it – if I mean NDP, I'll say NDP.

The H2O folks seem to be getting around it by never acknowledging an opposition.


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August1991
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posted 01 November 2004 01:58 AM      Profile for August1991     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wasn't this all done before by Richard Rohmer in Ultimatum?
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 01 November 2004 03:32 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I came in part way through due to important trick-or-treating responsibilities. Through the wonders of digital cable, I was able to see the first hour on CBC-Vancouver at 11:00 pm... but then I couldn't stop watching the half that I'd already seen. It's pretty compelling stuff.

And, yeah, I was thinking of Ian Waddell too. I wonder if he's planning to sue Paul Gross (not babbler Paul Gross, but the other one).


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posted 01 November 2004 12:56 PM      Profile for West Coast Greeny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I saw it last night, quite interesting really. Not bad at all for a CBC movie. I'm watching Part II tonight.
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Yah, Me too, watched the first half,thought of Ian, wondered if it's about time people woke up to the water thing. I have his book, A thirst to die for.

I also have a bunch of Richard Rohmers books including Ultimation, Exxoneration, and Seperation. I must admit thay didn't come to mind but I see why they might. Maybe I'll re-read some of them.

I'm all set to watch the second half tonight---don't nobody try to get in my way


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posted 01 November 2004 03:39 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't understand the Ian Waddell references; but in the introduction Nicholas Campbell noted that a prime minister dies and his son gives a passionate speech at his funeral - sound familiar?
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posted 01 November 2004 03:49 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Contrarian:
I don't understand the Ian Waddell references...

Now you will

quote:
A Thirst to Die For by Ian Waddell

Something fishy is happening to the water of British Columbia. Tipped off by a court case, Clayton Greene, Member of Parliament, discovers that a faction of high government officials have secret Orders-in-Council, allowing water exports from Canada to the United States. The Prime Minister of Canada denies any knowledge of the orders or the water export, but then the captain of the freighter that was to carry the exported water turns up dead and large amounts of money appear in a Caribbean bank account in the Prime Minister's name.

In his pursuit to uncover the corruption that is quickly spreading on Parliament Hill, Greene finds unlikely allies – a Toronto banker, a Dene elder, and the Governor General – in locales from the elegant halls of Parliament, Rideau Hall, and Queen's Park to the ski hills of Whistler, Vancouver's rough urban Eastside, and the Canadian Forces Base in Cold Lake, Alberta. Fast-paced action including car chases and death-defying escapes, along with Parliamentary tricks and nail-biting question periods, mark this thrilling first mystery by Ian Waddell.


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posted 01 November 2004 03:53 PM      Profile for Mazie        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Contrarian:
I don't understand the Ian Waddell references; but in the introduction Nicholas Campbell noted that a prime minister dies and his son gives a passionate speech at his funeral - sound familiar?

Ian Waddell wrote the book "A Thirst to Die For".
On the cover "WATER has been called Blue Gold: the most indespensible commodity on Earth."
The hope is to start a discussion about the theft of Canadian Water. It's all tied up in NAFTA and control of our natural resourses.
Ian said on a tv interview that the book would never win any prize but he hoped it would make people think.


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posted 01 November 2004 03:55 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you, Scott. I knew some big strong man would stop and help me; and I didn't even have to show my ankle! [fortunately; not a pretty sight]

Thank you too, Mazie.

[ 01 November 2004: Message edited by: Contrarian ]


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Sara Mayo
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posted 01 November 2004 11:19 PM      Profile for Sara Mayo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow. Just finished watching the second part.

It was some of the best TV I have ever seen. I hope CBC airs it again in the near future. I'd love to watch it all over again.


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 02 November 2004 10:47 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not exactly what you'd call "a happy ending", was it?
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posted 02 November 2004 11:03 AM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, what happens next is an interesting question. I didn't have much sense of what Canadians in general were up to except the odd riot. Would they accept the American takeover quietly, or fight a guerrilla war? Would the Americans want to fight a war that would spill over their borders?
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posted 02 November 2004 01:07 PM      Profile for pebbles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
And, yeah, I was thinking of Ian Waddell too. I wonder if he's planning to sue Paul Gross (not babbler Paul Gross, but the other one).

Sue him for what?


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 02 November 2004 01:15 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Um, did you read the Waddell link?

In case it's still not clear, I meant sue him for borrowing a plot idea.


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posted 02 November 2004 01:20 PM      Profile for pebbles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
Um, did you read the Waddell link? In case it's still not clear, I meant sue him for borrowing a plot idea.

Is there some law against borrowing a plot idea?


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posted 02 November 2004 01:21 PM      Profile for pebbles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"nail-biting question periods"

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, hoo boy...


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West Coast Greeny
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posted 02 November 2004 01:44 PM      Profile for West Coast Greeny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Holy Crap! THAT was a twist ending. One of the best movies that I've seen to premiere on TV.

Lets just hope politics never get that exciting.


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posted 02 November 2004 01:59 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by pebbles:
Is there some law against borrowing a plot idea?

Yeah, apparently there is. The most famous example was the horrible film Coming to America

quote:
So Art Buchwald sits down in a darkened movie theatre, awaiting the start of the latest Eddie Murphy vehicle. What he sees is Coming to America, which more than coincidentally resembles a treatment he wrote for an unproduced picture called "King For A Day." A historical lawsuit follows; Buchwald vs. Paramount even spawned a book so hefty that Eddie Murphy would need his entire entourage to lift it. Said text is titled Fatal Subtraction, and for this reason: Buchwald proved before a judge that his idea was indeed stolen, but the studio claimed no fiscal responsibility to the humorist because the $350 million grosser had earned "no net profit." Coming to America forever changed how Hollywood math is done.

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posted 02 November 2004 07:05 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know how close H2O is, except it's dealing with water, to a'A thirst to die for.'
I don't think that it is a great secret that others are interested in our water. At the rate we are going we will probably use it up before anyone can get their hands on it.

I thought the ending was a real twist too. The only thing I would criticize about it is that Paul Gross was supposed to be a pretty smart cookie, I mean as Prime Minister. He is probably smart period, anyhow I wondered, sort of, why he ranted on about the no borders. Seems a bit naive. Didn't suspect that he was set up either.
Power is a strange thing.


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quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
So Art Buchwald sits down in a darkened movie theatre, awaiting the start of the latest Eddie Murphy vehicle. What he sees is Coming to America, which more than coincidentally resembles a treatment he wrote for an unproduced picture called "King For A Day." A historical lawsuit follows; Buchwald vs. Paramount even spawned a book so hefty that Eddie Murphy would need his entire entourage to lift it. Said text is titled Fatal Subtraction, and for this reason: Buchwald proved before a judge that his idea was indeed stolen, but the studio claimed no fiscal responsibility to the humorist because the $350 million grosser had earned "no net profit." Coming to America forever changed how Hollywood math is done.


If you pitch your idea to someone, they reject it, and then use it, you have a case. Perhaps.

However, there is no inherent protection in general plot lines or premises. If there was, Bollywood and Harlequin, hell, the entire entertainment industry, would litigate itself out of existence.


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