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ronb
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posted 29 November 2005 05:06 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just saw this. Was blown away. Amazing. Holy crap, instant classic. Better than Three Days of the Condor.

God but it's been a long time since an English language film that wasn't a documentary treated me like a grownup.

Anybody else?


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Papal Bull
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posted 29 November 2005 06:09 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm trying to find a way to watch the film in clandestine ways

My mom saw it and said it was good


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ronb
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posted 29 November 2005 06:30 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Golly. Are you underage?
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cco
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posted 29 November 2005 06:42 PM      Profile for cco     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It doesn't appear to be playing in Montréal.
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Spry Fox
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posted 29 November 2005 07:24 PM      Profile for Spry Fox     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I believe it's not opening in some Canadian centres until the first week of December. It's raising eyebrows in the States this week where it was released in certain cities. Looks good n raw, fast paced and relevant.
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Papal Bull
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posted 29 November 2005 08:11 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by ronb:
Golly. Are you underage?

Quite the appropriate age, actually

No, I just lack the proper pecuniatiary endowments to see it in theatres. I hope that soon I will be able to see it, preferably in a legal sense.


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maestro
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posted 30 November 2005 08:18 AM      Profile for maestro     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Papal Bull:

Quite the appropriate age, actually

No, I just lack the proper pecuniatiary endowments to see it in theatres. I hope that soon I will be able to see it, preferably in a legal sense.



That should be 'pecuniarial' shouldn't it?


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drgoodword
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posted 13 December 2005 09:56 AM      Profile for drgoodword   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I saw the film weekend before last when it was still in limited release, and I found it a largely impressive work. Although some of the storytelling aspects of Syriana are, imo, somewhat flawed, its wide-spectrum look at the oil industry and America's corrupt relationship with the ME oil producers makes for a compelling political movie. The storyline dealing with a young Pakistani's journey to terrorism is, I think, treated with rare intelligence and humanity.

While veteran students of the middle east and America's oil politics won't have trouble following the film's many complexities, I'm not sure that someone unfamiliar with the film's context will find it as uniformly interesting. Nevertheless, I hope it does F911-level business, and gets a few more people thinking about all that goes into our standard of life and what is done to sustain it.

Peak Oil--one of babble's favourite topics--is briefly alluded to, but not explicitly discussed. I'm sure that as the peak comes--and especially directly after it passes--there will be all kinds of movies about it.


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rasmus
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posted 13 December 2005 12:43 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had no problem with the politics, although they are hardly a revelation to most people on this board. I enjoyed the multilingual aspect, especially as I could flatter myself that I understood all but one of the languages without subtitles. And I enjoyed the ultra-realism of it as a relief from Hollywood conventions (the ending is definitely not Hollywood). However, I agree with Martin Bilodeau's review in Le Devoir, where he said something like "they had so much to tell, they forgot to make cinema...there are fine scenes, but no movie". It just never came together as a film, and there was a strange flatness to it all.
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HellofaSandwich
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posted 13 December 2005 06:03 PM      Profile for HellofaSandwich   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought it was challenging, and well-made. It definitely had my mind racing to keep up with the events, the connections, the confluence of actors, motives, and machinations. For most viewers, including myself, this is a movie that requires multiple viewings to connect all, or any, of the dots.

But DAMN... that torture sequence... that was gruesome. I'm still squirming because of it. Some of the people around me at the theatre were mortified.


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LiberalPrisoner
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posted 16 December 2005 11:28 PM      Profile for LiberalPrisoner     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by cco:
It doesn't appear to be playing in Montréal.

Its at the Colisee Kirkland


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Boom Boom
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posted 28 December 2006 04:12 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
TMN has been showing 'Syriana' on Bell ExpressVu quite often this year. I saw it a few hours ago for the third time. One line struck me as interesting: "one country with 5% of the world's population (USA) doing 50% of the world's spending on arms cannot last". There were other moments, too, where the Emir of one of these countries will be assassinated because he refuses to allow US military bases in his country, while his son, who has been heavily bribed, is in favour of such an idea. Another moment is when one of the characters (CIA?) says that China cannot expand economically (to become more of a rival to the US) because the US prevents China from getting as much oil as it needs.
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unionist
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posted 28 December 2006 04:33 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Papal Bull:

Quite the appropriate age, actually

No, I just lack the proper pecuniatiary endowments to see it in theatres. I hope that soon I will be able to see it, preferably in a legal sense.


Does the word "bittorrent" mean nothing to you? that's how I saw it...


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Boom Boom
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posted 28 December 2006 04:47 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Blood for oil: The New Imperialism

excerpt:

The film (Syriana) suggests that the U.S. is willing to kill reformists to ensure that the U.S. maintains its patronage-type relationship with the Middle East, in order to strengthen and reinforce its control of the oil. It also obliquely suggests that the capitalism of the West is one of the many root causes of Islamic fundamentalist terrorist activities.


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jrootham
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posted 28 December 2006 05:06 PM      Profile for jrootham     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hmm, I wouldn't describe that suggestion as particularly oblique.
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Boom Boom
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posted 28 December 2006 05:14 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Was it directly referring to the capitalism of the west as one of the root causes, then?
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B.L. Zeebub LLD
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posted 28 December 2006 07:06 PM      Profile for B.L. Zeebub LLD     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by unionist:

Does the word "bittorrent" mean nothing to you? that's how I saw it...


Arrr, a Pirate be ye....


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Legless-Marine
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posted 28 December 2006 09:52 PM      Profile for Legless-Marine        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by maestro:


That should be 'pecuniarial' shouldn't it?


Pecuniary, as used by Dickens.


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jrootham
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posted 28 December 2006 10:33 PM      Profile for jrootham     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Spoiler alert!

quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
Was it directly referring to the capitalism of the west as one of the root causes, then?

One of the triggers for the suicide bomber was losing his job because the company he worked for got sold. I'd say that was pretty direct. Although I suppose it is possible that there are people who would not see that as a connection to capitalism.


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Brian White
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posted 07 January 2007 07:10 PM      Profile for Brian White   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rented it, couldnt make it through the torture scene. I hope it wasnt much more than the 2 minutes I saw.
Sorry.

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unionist
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posted 07 January 2007 07:30 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Brian White:
Rented it, couldnt make it through the torture scene. I hope it wasnt much more than the 2 minutes I saw.
Sorry.

Don't you have one of these things on your machine:


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Brian White
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posted 07 January 2007 08:20 PM      Profile for Brian White   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Whatever
Anyway realistic looking graphic torture doesnt make me or my girlfriend feel real good and would have interfered with our enjoyment of the rest of the movie.
Different strokes for different folks, i guess.

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Boom Boom
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posted 07 January 2007 08:52 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just sat through four hours of Kill Bill I & II - lots of splatter. I think this is the third time I've sat through both.
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