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Mandos
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posted 13 November 2005 07:17 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This is an effort to make babble Fair and Balanced about Neil Young, especially after this thread:

http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001878

In fact, you could say that I am encouraging Neil Young objectivity. I myself have no opinion on Neil Young, but I do have an opinion on pro-Neil Young biases. We need to be objective here, objective.


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Hephaestion
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posted 13 November 2005 07:22 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
Sure, Mandos, sure... I bet you're secretly a fan of whiny British git music (eg: Morrissey)...
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posted 13 November 2005 07:23 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Thank you for this, Mandos.

I would like to respond to this thread, as I wish to understand how Neil Young could possibly have supported Ronald Reagan, but as I stare out my window, I am transfixed by the site of a large spherical metal object, glowing with the most unnatural colour green, floating several metres above the street, and I can see emerging from it creatures like none I have ever seen, and it's difficult to tell what they're doing exactly, but if I had to guess, I'd say they were ... umm ... copulating with each other or something.

Now they ... I think they've seen me ... they're moving toward me, gesturing, and ... not speaking, but somehow telling me, without words, that ... oh my god, it's so true, why did I never realize it before, I must go to tell the entire world the good news!

Sorry -- can I get back to you?


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posted 13 November 2005 07:29 PM      Profile for StockwellDay     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
A Man Needs A Maid? Where'd that song come from? Down By The River? How can these songs come out the same head as Like A Hurricane and Harvest?
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posted 13 November 2005 09:10 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Over half a lifetime ago I dropped a double hit of blotter acid and became fascinated fascinated! with the trite Neil Young track "Cripple Creek Ferry".

If that doesn't scare the youth straight, nothing will.


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Boom Boom
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posted 13 November 2005 10:06 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I like some of Young's solo work, but I love his work especially with Crosby, Stills, and Nash. I've been listening to him for a really long time.
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Mandos
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posted 13 November 2005 10:13 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I'm sorry Boom Boom, but you are trolling this thread. This is supposed to be for anti-Neil Young perpectives.
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Boom Boom
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posted 13 November 2005 10:26 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Anti-Neil Young??? I didn't know one could be such. My apologies for misreading the thread title. *mutter*

edited to add: sorry for wasting bandwidth here - I'll go over to the other thread. Can't believe folks actually have negative thoughts on Neil Young (okay, not *all* his work is stellar, but whose is?)

[ 13 November 2005: Message edited by: Boom Boom ]


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Mandos
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posted 13 November 2005 10:27 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
There's another thread in this same forum for pro-Neil Young perspectives, I believe linked in my first post here. Maybe you might want to check them out. I created this thread so that babble could be a balanced place for perspectives on Neil Young.
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posted 13 November 2005 10:32 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I'd like to discuss consumption from a pro-consumption point of view. Can I do that in the Labour & Consumption forum, or would it be safer to do it here?
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posted 13 November 2005 10:32 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
He said with a perfectly straight face.
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Mandos
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posted 13 November 2005 10:40 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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I'd like to discuss consumption from a pro-consumption point of view. Can I do that in the Labour & Consumption forum, or would it be safer to do it here?
I'm sorry, only Neil Young discussion is appropriate here. You need to go to "body and soul" to discuss arguments in favour of tuberculosis.

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Boom Boom
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posted 13 November 2005 10:54 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh! here's something anti Neil Young!!! When he did that clunker "when God made me" at that live concert, I grimaced. Geez. I was hoping for something with more swing. What a downer that was. Yuck. Reminded me that Neil Young can be a downer sometimes.
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posted 13 November 2005 11:14 PM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post
Didn't Neil Young become a right-wing freakazoid war-on-"terror"-supportin' shyte-ferfukkin-brains dipwad the other day?

Isn't "Rust Never Sleeps" boring?

Isn't it true that his singing voice is kinda weak?

I won't say any of the good things about Neil Young, because that would violate the intention of this thread.


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Boom Boom
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posted 13 November 2005 11:18 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I've heard it said that Neil Young guitar solos gave birth to grunge, but that's just nasty.
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posted 13 November 2005 11:30 PM      Profile for tallyho        Edit/Delete Post
He's a good musician and my issue isn't Neil Young but 'too much' Neil young. I'd prefer his music if I didn't hear it ad nauseum over the decades. The same goes for a lot of musicians...if someone asks if I like their recordings (Rolling Stones, Dylan, etc.) I can't really say yes because they've become like background Musak. It's like eating 10 pounds of chocolate and not being able to remember if it ever tasted good or not.
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thwap
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posted 13 November 2005 11:31 PM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post
Boom-Boom, re: Young helping create "grunge"

You have said something good about Young, while sincerely believing it to have been bad.

I cannot say whether or not you are obeying the laws of this thread.

He butchers "Poor Old Lonesome Me."

He wasn't being sarcastic when he said "rockin' in the free world."

yesinddddeeeeeeeeeeeddy: wtf is it with "a maid"? What's up widdat?


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Boom Boom
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posted 13 November 2005 11:35 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Originally posted by thwap:
Boom-Boom, re: Young helping create "grunge"

You have said something good about Young, while sincerely believing it to have been bad.
-
Holy Christ!!! Grunge is "good"?


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StockwellDay
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posted 13 November 2005 11:53 PM      Profile for StockwellDay     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I was thinking that
maybe I'd get a maid
Find a place nearby
for her to stay.
Just someone
to keep my house clean,
Fix my meals and go away.

A maid. A man needs a maid.
A maid.

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thwap
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posted 14 November 2005 12:01 AM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
Originally posted by thwap:
Boom-Boom, re: Young helping create "grunge"

You have said something good about Young, while sincerely believing it to have been bad.
-
Holy Christ!!! Grunge is "good"?


Yes.

(And Neil Young has done bad things -- [just so's to be keepin' obeyin' the laws o' this thread]--.)

I gotta get two sleep.


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Boom Boom
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posted 14 November 2005 12:05 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Originally posted by thwap:
I gotta get two sleep.
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Me three. Babble is interfering with my sleep patterns.

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jas
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posted 14 November 2005 12:05 AM      Profile for jas     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Re: maid:

I do believe that is intended to be ironic. It's about the loneliness of success, or modern life, or bachelorhood, and men's inability to understand the importance of relationship, or something.

PS: listen to it again if you don't believe me.

Ok something bad: he's had a bad haircut for too long.

[ 14 November 2005: Message edited by: jas ]


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Papal Bull
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posted 14 November 2005 12:39 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Wait...What about Neil Young's politics?
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posted 14 November 2005 01:05 AM      Profile for voice of the damned     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
He wasn't being sarcastic when he said "rockin' in the free world."


So, you're telling me that the following is meant as PRAISE for the free world?

quote:
We got a thousand points of light
For the homeless man
We got a kinder, gentler,
Machine gun hand


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Michelle
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posted 14 November 2005 01:51 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I love that this thread is longer than the other one! Mwa ha ha!

It's difficult for me to discuss my dislike for Neil Young in a print medium. I need to be able to mimic his fingernails-on-chalkboard grating whine to give a full accounting of my feelings for him.


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posted 14 November 2005 01:56 AM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
I love that this thread is longer than the other one! Mwa ha ha!

But this one has turned into a discussion that is, by-and-large, pro-Neil Young, proving that Neil's greatness is an empirical fact. Mwa ha ha back atcha!


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Michelle
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posted 14 November 2005 09:06 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Bump! Bumpity bumpity bump!!
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Michelle
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posted 14 November 2005 09:14 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by RealityBites:
I've heard that Neil Yonge is the longest musician in the world, stretching all the way from Lake Ontario north and west to the US border.True or not?

Oh no you don't! This thread WILL be longer! (Pretty funny, though. )

Actually, it only FEELS that long when you're listening to one of his songs. Badump-bump-shing!


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skdadl
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posted 14 November 2005 10:04 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
He's male. He's my age. Therefore, I post to this thread.
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Michelle
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posted 14 November 2005 10:06 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Ha! Well, keep posting, the other thread is gaining on us!

As for you, josh, I'll just respond to you HERE, so that I don't give that OTHER thread any more posts...but don't you think you're taking that "honourary Canadian" thing too far? Next you'll be telling me you like the Tragically Hip!


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josh
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posted 14 November 2005 10:11 AM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Who?

Hey, I've been into Neil Young for nearly as long as you've been alive. So no "honour" is needed.


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Michelle
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posted 14 November 2005 10:16 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Well, at least you're not a Hip fan. You're not completely hopeless.

(I know, I know. Blasphemy, especially coming from a Kingstonian!)


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skdadl
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posted 14 November 2005 11:05 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh dear. We're falling behind. Where are all the hostile boomer women?
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Cueball
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posted 14 November 2005 11:10 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I'll tell you the really really terrible thing about Neil Young. The terrible thing about Neil young is he wrote these very romantic and attractive simple songs that anyone could sing and play, and the result has been that any little spoilt pimpleyfaced teen with half a brain can pick up the guitar and play his maudlin ballads, and do so.

I went to a party by accident in 1998 that turned out to be a teen (15 to 18) bash. I stayed for about 10 minutes, but left, noticing on the eay out that some little self-indulgent pie-eyed creep was picking out Heart of Gold on his guitar in a corner.

ChristallmightyIloveneilyoungforhisabilitytotouchpeoplelikethatitistotallygenius.

[ 14 November 2005: Message edited by: Cueball ]


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skdadl
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posted 14 November 2005 11:22 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh, yeah, sure. They sang us the simple, romantic ballads. They pretended they had a heart. They wore those hearts on their sleeves ... ostentatiously ...

And then they moved along, y'know? Just like a rollin' stone. Sixties heavies. Buncha chicken-hearted Peter Pans. God spare womankind.


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posted 14 November 2005 11:23 AM      Profile for brebis noire     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I wasn't even there, and I know they posed as lefties just to get laid.
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skdadl
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posted 14 November 2005 11:26 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
They did! That's exactly what they did!

(Go team. We're ahead at the moment.)


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Michelle
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posted 14 November 2005 11:27 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Cueball:
I went to a party by accident in 1998 that turned out to be a teen (15 to 18) bash. I stayed for about 10 minutes, but left, noticing on the eay out that some little self-indulgent pie-eyed creep was picking out Heart of Gold on his guitar in a corner.

ChristallmightyIloveneilyoungforhisabilitytotouchpeoplelikethatitistotallygenius.


Well, thank-you for giving me a great big laugh. So you didn't go all JuicyFruit on his ass then? Heart of Gold - one of my favorite Neil Young songs to make fun of!

Was it in Animal House that a similar situation happened, where some guy was picking out a shmaltzy tune on the guitar after everyone had passed out at a drunk party, and someone ended up taking it away from him and smashing it to pieces? It's been so long that I can't remember whether that was the movie or not.


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posted 14 November 2005 11:29 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by brebis noire:
I wasn't even there, and I know they posed as lefties just to get laid.

I was there for the sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll, but, except for a very short period (three months, maybe), avoided the drugs altogether. I wish I could relive the period 1967 - 1969.


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posted 14 November 2005 11:32 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:
They did! That's exactly what they did!

(Go team. We're ahead at the moment.)


Now they just pose as feminists. And they cry! Good lord, what have we done to those poor men!


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posted 14 November 2005 11:32 AM      Profile for Lard Tunderin' Jeezus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Well, at least you're not a Hip fan. You're not completely hopeless.

(I know, I know. Blasphemy, especially coming from a Kingstonian!)



I've seen the Hip just once - in a bar in Kingston. I don't even know if they had released their first album yet, but I saw it on the sheves shortly thereafter in Toronto.

Anyway, I really enjoyed them, in part because they did lots of Neil covers, and played them very well. The guitarist in particular (Langlois?) has every Neil Young guitar lick down pat - and uses them regularly in the Hip's own repetoire.


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P.S. Ah yes, it WAS Animal House. I really need to watch that movie again sometime.
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quote:
Originally posted by brebis noire:
I wasn't even there, and I know they posed as lefties just to get laid.

Yes, I am starting a paper, it is called the Socialist Womanizer. I will sell it at rallies for a buck. All kinds of tricks and tips. Such as encouraging her to speak at meetings then intimitading her when we get home for having incorrect politics, etc. etc. et al.


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posted 14 November 2005 11:36 AM      Profile for shaolin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Yes, I am starting a paper, it is called the Socialist Womanizer. I will sell it at rallies for a buck. All kinds of tricks and tips. Such as encouraging her to speak at meetings then intimitading her when we get home for having incorrect politics, etc. etc. et al.

!!


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posted 14 November 2005 11:38 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
You let her go to the meetings? But Cueball: somebody has to look after the kids, and you, after all, are so much the better speaker. I mean, it's only logical that you should go. It's a burden and all, and of course we feel how much it weighs upon you, but the future of mankind may depend on that speech you give tonight, so please sacrifice yourself and go!
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posted 14 November 2005 11:43 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I had a very funny conversation with some NDP activists about Jack becoming leader.

I was talking to this husband and wife (nice people I like them) and I said, "Frankly I think you picked the wrong spouse: why not Chow instead of Layton?"

The husband says, "Oh but she is much to valuable here (city hall)"

I said: "You know that sounds like very much like she is needed at home in the kitchen."

Husband: "No not at all."

Wife, ferciousiously glaring: "Yes. That is exactly what that sounds like."


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posted 14 November 2005 12:03 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Ha! This is my new favorite thread.
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posted 14 November 2005 12:08 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
You're welcome. I thought it was necessary to start a thread for viewpoints opposed to Neil Young. To create a safe space on babble where anti-Neil Young thoughts are valued.
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posted 14 November 2005 12:14 PM      Profile for chester the prairie shark     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
I wish I could relive the period 1967 - 1969.
or st least remember it!

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posted 14 November 2005 12:20 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by chester the prairie shark:
or st least remember it!

I remember... uh, I was in Montreal before Expo 67 opened - my brother painted the mural on the Burma Pavillion, and his neighbour in the housing co-op was a stoner named Hippy Dippy. Such were the times.


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Have Neil Young and Leonard Cohen ever sung together? Then we could decide who has a golden voice or a gold foil voice. For that matter, have they ever been seen in the same room at the same time? [Glad to see the treasurer is back; I was all ready to pay my arrears, but now I've spent the munnee on something else.]
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Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash sang a duet on Nashville Skyline that always makes me laugh. Simon and Garfunkel they were not.
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I _love_ the Cash/Dylan duet!!! I've worn out two copies of 'Nashville Skyline' so far; it's one of my fave Dylan lp's, along with his earlier stuff, and 'John Wesley Hardin'. What's not to like?
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John Wesley Harding is my hands down favourite Dylan album.

I like Girl from the North Country a lot, it just tickles me to hear the two of them looking for a harmony and neither of them finding one.


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So far into an anti-Neil Young thread and no one has mentioned his record Trans?
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posted 14 November 2005 01:55 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Or Stars & Bars. You have to already kinda like Neil to even be aware of his missteps though.
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Stars and Bars isn't great but it isn't worthy of being grouped with Trans.

There's some pretty good songs on Stars n Bars. The reason it isn't great is because it is an assortment of songs he recorded over a period of time and not a one time album sit down which is emblematic of his best albums.

Worst Neil Young album? The Doo Wop album was bad, Trans, the bluegrass one wasn't great either. Basically just leave out the whole 80s. That's a good rule for anyone buying a Neil Young record. Recorded in the 80s? Pass.


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posted 14 November 2005 02:06 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I did a google to see how many albums Young has released - wow - a lot I've never heard. Any other clunkers besides "Stars and Bars" and "Trans" I should avoid?

I've got:
Neil Young (first LP)
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
After the Gold Rush
Harvest
Comes A Time
Old Ways
Landing on Water


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posted 14 November 2005 02:30 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Despite all the Stars 'n Bars bashing, it contained Like a Hurricaine and Star of Bethlehem, two of his better songs and of contrasting style.
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posted 14 November 2005 02:33 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I thought Like a Hurricane was on Zuma.

Oh, and you're in the wrong thread. This is the anti thread.


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posted 14 November 2005 02:34 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
That's okay, you just keep posting in this thread.

WE'RE WINNING!


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posted 14 November 2005 02:35 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Cortez The Killer was his "anthem" song on Zuma.
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Oh yeah. Ipod's making them all mush together now.
I don't know what it is about Stars and Bars that keeps me away from it. Aside from the title, and the ugly cover, and the songs seemed kinda unfocussed from what I can remember. I should go back to it I suppose. But you can't make me listen to Hawks and Doves again though. I won't do it.

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posted 14 November 2005 03:18 PM      Profile for Makwa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Won't somebody please think about the Young?
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quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
I did a google to see how many albums Young has released - wow - a lot I've never heard. Any other clunkers besides "Stars and Bars" and "Trans" I should avoid?

I've got:
Neil Young (first LP)
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
After the Gold Rush
Harvest
Comes A Time
Old Ways
Landing on Water


Reactor!

Although I found the the 15 minute version of "T-Bone" soothing coming down off a toxic mix of speed balls and qualudes. But that was all so long ago.

Here are the lyrics:

"T-Bone"

Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone

Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Ain't got no T-Bone

Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone

Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone
T-Bone

Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone
No T-Bone

Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone

Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone

Ain't got no T-Bone

Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Ain't got no T-Bone

Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone
Ain't got no T-Bone

A classic Neil Young romantic ditty, simple, heartfelt and something we can all relate too, at sometime, somewhere, even if we have to get extremely high and then feel really bad to "get it."


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posted 14 November 2005 03:45 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Cueball quoted these lyrics:

Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Got mashed potatoes
Ain't got no T-Bone

Jesus. That's Neil Young??? Thanks for the warning.


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posted 14 November 2005 05:32 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh yeah. It is a must down load. You used to be able to pick up the LP's for about 3 bucks a pop in the remainder bins. That started about three months after it was released. It is the classic 'contractual obligation' album.

You might like it. Neil has a way of making the worst sound good sometimes, to some people, at some times.


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Maybe bad words sound better with whine.
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Cueball, that sounds semi-positive, which means that you are semi-defying the mandate of this forum.

And besides: the other team are catching up, and I have to go now, so could we get positively negative again?


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I've been thinking. Can't we all just agree that Neil is either really, really good or at least has written some really, really good songs? I know he's caused people a lot of pain, but maybe the two Neil threads can find some common ground.
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posted 14 November 2005 07:31 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
No!

(Hee hee, another post! We're winning, we're winning!)


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posted 14 November 2005 07:33 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Neil is the Canadian songwriter we love to hate.
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Is it ageist to have an anti-Young site?
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posted 14 November 2005 08:03 PM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post
A Southern Man don't need Mr. Young around, ...anyhow.

[Perhaps one of the the most pathetic, and witless retorts in the history of the human race.]


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Well, I heard Mister Young sing about her
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down.
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
a southern man don't need him around anyhow.

I thought it was a great comeback: they're saying, catty-like, "thanks Neil, now go away and leave us the hell alone". Maybe you didn't get it because you weren't drunk at the time.


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posted 14 November 2005 08:49 PM      Profile for koan brothers     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Neil Young needs to either hire a guitar tuner or fire a guitar tuner.
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posted 14 November 2005 10:06 PM      Profile for Loretta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Thank god I found this support group -- I thought I was the only one.

I probably am the only one who doesn't like KD Lang, though.


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posted 14 November 2005 10:11 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by koan brothers:
Neil Young needs to either hire a guitar tuner or fire a guitar tuner.

Actually Neil's gitar playin is great. Flat notes are part of the blues, which is a basic influence on rock gitar playing.


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quote:
Originally posted by Cueball:

Actually Neil's gitar playin is great. Flat notes are part of the blues, which is a basic influence on rock gitar playing.


It sucks.


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posted 14 November 2005 10:53 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
There is no acounting for bad taste. Yours especially.

[ 14 November 2005: Message edited by: Cueball ]


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Did you just make that up?
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posted 14 November 2005 10:57 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
No. It it the recieved wisdom of god.
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I thought I would elevate the tone a little above "it sucks." Sorry, if it confused you.
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quote:
Originally posted by Loretta:
Thank god I found this support group -- I thought I was the only one.

I probably am the only one who doesn't like KD Lang, though.


Yuck. I've never liked KD Lang. Please don't flame me. (on the other hand, I love Shania - a lot)


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I don't dislike K.D. Lang; but I do dislike her song "Constant Craving" C'mon people, play something else of hers.
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I like to call it "Constant Whining"...
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I give up. People nowadays appreciate complete unmusicality and dislike actual musical talent like k.d. lang. Of course, it surprises me not one bit that Boom Boom hates k.d. Boomers have hated all music since 1972.

Constant Craving is k.d's best work.

[ 14 November 2005: Message edited by: Hinterland ]


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Have Neil Young and Leonard Cohen ever sung together?

Can you imagine if Lorne Greene were still around? Those three together would put the Three Tenors out of bizniz.

Oh, and Neil Young is a phoney baloney.


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I probably am the only one who doesn't like KD Lang, though.

My mother hates KD Lang. In fact, she used her dislike of KD Lang to shut us whiny kids up. For instance, when we were frustrated that we didn't get a Nintendo or something, she'd just repeat ad nauseum "But I hate KD Lang!" "But moooooom, So-and-So has a Nintendo." "Yeah, so, I HATE KD Lang!"


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quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:

Can you imagine if Lorne Greene were still around? Those three together would put the Three Tenors out of bizniz.


You left out William Shatner. They'd be a quartet! It would be like the second coming of the Four Lads.


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While I can appreciate that Neil has written some (stress some) primo songs, more often then not he has created some utter dreck. Take this ditty for example:

Hard to believe
that love is free now

Welfare mothers
make better lovers

Out on the street
with the whole family now

Welfare mothers
make better lovers

Or this:

Well, I went with Mary Lou
Tried Peggy Sue
Had a date with Donna
And Barbara Ann too
But I'm kinda fonda Wanda.
Kinda fonda Wanda.

Yippee. Great.

I think his good stuff is more akin to a blind squirrel occasionally finding an acorn.


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Tommy, I have read your mirror-post on the mirror-thread, and I see that you are being balanced and fair.

Since I am not wanting to be balanced and fair on this topic, I reply to you in this thread only.


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Tom Waits once said that "A Horse With No Name" might be an interesting song if Young had changed the chorus to: "I've been across the desert on a horse with no legs."
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Oy, I've loathed Neil Young forever. Who can listen to him? Michelle and I should have a whine-off. I do a pretty good one too.
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Michelle and I should have a whine-off.

Joe Piscopo and Robin Duke are probably available to judge it!


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Originally posted by gopi:
Tom Waits once said that "A Horse With No Name" might be an interesting song if Young had changed the chorus to: "I've been across the desert on a horse with no legs."

Perhaps. But since he didn't write it, it would have been hard for him to change it.


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A horse with no Neil.

Apparently early copies of the "Harvest" record were sold with a sticker on them saying: "includes the hit "Horse With No Name." I guess I'm not the only one who thought Neil Young sang that song.


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The song's ["A Horse With No Name"] resemblance to Neil Young's work stirred some grumbling as well. Coincidentally or not, it was 'A Horse With No Name' that bumped Young's 'Heart Of Gold' out of the #1 slot on the U.S. Pop chart. 'I know that virtually everyone, on first hearing, assumed it was Neil,' America's Dewey Bunnell says. 'I never fully shied away from the fact that I was inspired by him. I think it's in the structure of the song as much as in the tone of my voice. It did hurt a little, because we got some pretty bad backlash. I've always attributed it more to people protecting their own heroes more than attacking me.

Yet another Neil Young Site


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Hyperbole I'm sure but speaking as one, I liked a lot of new wave, punk, Peter Gabriel solo, Kate Bush, Gloria Estafan, and some of Green Day and the Chili Peppers.

As for Neil Young, he reminds me of the Blue Jays old star Joe Carter. Many at-bats, many outs, but several big hits.


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I'm sorry, but that sounded like a pro-Neil Young post to me. I think you are trying to troll this thread. Please stop.
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Do we really need anti-Neil Young thought police here? Mando, be careful; your authoritarian attitude could push babblers into the pro-Neil Young camp.
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Don't needle him or the damage will be done.

I've got to admit though, I'm still in love, on this harvest moon


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posted 15 November 2005 03:49 PM      Profile for brebis noire     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
First thread past 100 posts. Can we declare a winner?
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Yes! Yes we can!
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