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Topic: Which party do Canadians trust the most on the envrionment?
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Lou Arab
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posted 08 April 2007 05:22 PM
This was sent to me - I thought it would be of interest to babblers. It is from a news story reporting on the recent political negative ad war. quote:
It is expected the Liberal ads will highlight Mr. Harper's rush to go "green" in the past few months, during which he has announced a flurry of initiatives to fight climate change after previously questioning its existence.But Mr. Bricker is not sure that is the most effective strategy, given polls showing most Canadians actually consider the NDP to be the strongest option on the environment.
Ottawa Citizen, March 31, 2007Bricker is Darrell Bricker, President of Ipsos-Reid.
From: Edmonton | Registered: Jul 2001
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zak4amnesty
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posted 09 April 2007 07:23 AM
None of the parties.Elizabeth May was in my chemical town last week.
She chose to speak at the Riding Club. It is a most exclusive club for the wealthiest families of our dirty city. She charged $10 for the privilege of hearing her words. The demographic she spoke to are those with the most influence and money, but they are also the ones who traditionally do nothing. I live on the worst street in my town. I do what I'm told and what I believe as far as making a positive change goes. I think May should have spoken at the public library instead, or as well. I have no doubt Layton would not make himself available to someone like me. I can't vote NDP...... I wish I could. [ 09 April 2007: Message edited by: zak4amnesty ]
From: Chemical Valley | Registered: Nov 2005
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Scout
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posted 09 April 2007 08:26 AM
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I have no doubt Layton would not make himself available to someone like me. I can't vote NDP...... I wish I could.
What makes you think Jack wouldn't be available speak to you? I think Jack is more likely to be at a library than a Riding Club - hell Oliva went door to door in my neighbourhood. And why can't you vote for the NDP?
From: Toronto, ON Canada | Registered: Oct 2001
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remind
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posted 09 April 2007 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by zak4amnesty:
None of the parties.Elizabeth May was in my chemical town last week. She chose to speak at the Riding Club. It is a most exclusive club for the wealthiest families of our dirty city.
Well, that fits May's ideological picture of herself.
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She charged $10 for the privilege of hearing her words.
And she overcharged I agree.
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The demographic she spoke to are those with the most influence and money, but they are also the ones who traditionally do nothing.
In your community?
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I think May should have spoken at the public library instead, or as well.
Why would she do that? Those who have no money are of no use to her, and why waste her words? quote:
I have no doubt Layton would not make himself available to someone like me. I can't vote NDP...... I wish I could.
Of course he would, I wrote him and received a lengthy personal reply back from him, it took a bit, but I am most likely not the only one writing and he has commitments that need prioritizing. Moreover, there are plenty of Jack's speaking engagements linked to at the NDP site, that were not fund raisers and cost nothing to go to. This apparently cannot be said for May. Why can you not vote NDP?
From: "watching the tide roll away" | Registered: Jun 2004
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remind
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posted 09 April 2007 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by zak4amnesty:
Ok, I recant a bit. I don't know that Layton would not be available. I don't hold anything of use to him, except perhaps one single vote.
You are selling yourself short, 1 person can influence many people greatly. quote:
Andy Bruziewics may finally have some success in our Union city.
Well, if you were really passionate you would get busy and get active to make sure proper NDP candidates were being accessed, as opposed to complaining about them.
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Steppenwolf Allende
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posted 09 April 2007 06:31 PM
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...polls showing most Canadians actually consider the NDP to be the strongest option on the environment.
Once again, it seems voters aren't as dumb as the corporate media and politicians would like them to be. Just compare the debates and discussions led by people like Jack Layton and Nathan Cullen to ANY of the other parties, including the so-called "Green" Party, and you can see the qualitative differences and degrees of sincerity. quote:
Elizabeth May was in my chemical town last week. She chose to speak at the Riding Club. It is a most exclusive club for the wealthiest families of our dirty city.
That's not surprising. May is hardly a working-class hero, and, partly because of this, isn't a very serious pro-ecology politician. She is of that political trend that practices liberal guilty trips on the wealthy to make tiny guestures, instead of fundamental change, in order to feel better about themselves and their un-earned undemocratic power and privilege. That's why the GP is now so under the gun of "eco-capitalism" and similar Wal-Mart-style window dressing enviro-make-believe that emphasizes image without substance or serious commitment. quote:
I have no doubt Layton would not make himself available to someone like me. I can't vote NDP...... I wish I could.
Actually, if you make a civil and respectful request, he most likely would meet with. He does this all the time with people (obviously time restrictions are always a problem), including with me and many others I have met. His legacy as a successful, many-time elected city councilor is the direct personal contact with people as much as possible.
From: goes far, flies near, to the stars away from here | Registered: Aug 2006
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Cameron W
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posted 12 April 2007 01:37 PM
Canadians trust the Green Party most on global warming.Angus Reid poll quote:
Many adults in Canada think the Green party is well prepared to deal with the issue of climate change, according to a poll by Angus Reid Strategies. 34 per cent of respondents think the Greens are best suited to develop effective global warming legislation.The Conservative party is second with 26 per cent, followed by the Liberal party with 18 per cent, the New Democratic Party (NDP) with 15 per cent, and the Bloc Québécois with three per cent.
There's the answer to the question.
From: Left Coast | Registered: Oct 2005
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remind
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posted 12 April 2007 02:59 PM
Think I will trust Mr Bricker, as nothing has changed other than the Greens dipping back to 6% in the last Strategic Council's Polls: quote:
Mr. Bricker is not sure...given polls showing most Canadians...consider the NDP to be the strongest option on the environment.
As frankly, I know longer trust Angus Reid at all. Especially after that last big poll of theirs, which was on line and you could sign up and participate right then and there, showing the CPC way ahead. And from sign up on they email you to ask you to participate in other similar polls, that were done on line, as Caneron W linked to.The ability to skew it was not just imagining, IMV, as in the last poll, that I participated in, they asked questions to declare who you voted for, and on what. After I had declared myself NDP, they have not asked me to participate in any of their on line polls, nor have I been allowed to participate in any that were available, they just kept shooting back to the sign in page. [ 12 April 2007: Message edited by: remind ]
From: "watching the tide roll away" | Registered: Jun 2004
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