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Hephaestion
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posted 15 March 2005 10:42 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
queerday.com reports:

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Football legend turned wrestling legend turned actor The Rock has been let go by professional wrestling's WWE. "My contract with World Wrestling Entertainment was up last year. I was never contacted or notified," says The Rock.

Interestingly, he plays gay in his most recent movie role as bodyguard Elliot in "Be Cool." Could there be a connection to his contract lapse with notoriously homophobic pro wrestling?


link to Edmonton Sun

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Elliot is a lot of brawn mixed with limited brain and he just happens to be gay.

"I tried to play Elliot as straight as I could," says the Rock, relishing the obvious pun. "It would have been too easy and disrespectful to play him as a gay caricature. I have too much respect for my gay friends to do that."

The Rock says his most important mentor, wrestler Pat Paterson is gay.

"I feel fortunate that in my life I've had many important, positive gay influences.

"Pat was a strong, proud, gay man who could really kick butt when he had to. That's how I tried to play Elliot. The response I've received from the gay community has been encouraging and positive."



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posted 15 March 2005 10:56 AM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
recently thought about "are wrestling fans stupid?" and recalled some 1980s WWF[WWE] story-lines.

Remember the abuse "Adorable Adrian Adonis" used to take?

As a (basically mindless) homophobic teenager, I was scared at the vicious, hateful, intense shouts of "FAGGOT!" of those thousands of mouth-breathing shitheads. The hatred on their stupid faces as they'd shout at him.

And, I guess, making jokes about watching the sweaty-musclemen wrassling with each other is redundant.


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kuri
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posted 15 March 2005 11:03 AM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On the other hand, if the Rock is making the transition to even a reasonably successful movie career, he'll have the last laugh. I suspect this could even help him.
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posted 15 March 2005 11:56 AM      Profile for Bobolink   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does anyone remember "Gorgeous George" back when pro wrestling was fun?
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posted 15 March 2005 12:38 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How about "The Beast?"
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Bacchus
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posted 15 March 2005 12:57 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Sheik was my personal favourite.

Many fond memories of me and my dad at such events or lazy saturdays together


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Hephaestion
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posted 15 March 2005 01:46 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
'member "Mad Dog" Vachon and "Mean Gene" Kanisky?

Didn't "Mad Dog" end up running for the Endee Pee at one point?


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paxamillion
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posted 15 March 2005 01:50 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Bacchus:
The Sheik was my personal favourite.

... and his infamous "Camel Clutch."


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posted 16 March 2005 01:27 AM      Profile for The Vicious     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I always liked Jake the Snake, perhaps because he was a creepy long haired guy who brought a python with him everywhere.
Then around 1998 i saw footage of him, gone all out of shape and very very fatigued looking. It was sad to see him that way.

I still think the WWF of the 80s had merit in it's lack of pretention and honest goofyness, despite being fake.


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Hephaestion
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posted 16 March 2005 06:18 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
*gawd* I'm sooooo ashamed! I actually know who all these wrestlers ARE.

*slink, slink, slink*


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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 16 March 2005 06:32 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ah, the good old days.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum."

RRP


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posted 16 March 2005 06:37 AM      Profile for maestro     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's one that only a dyed-in-the-wool wrestling fan from Vancouver would maybe remember.

For a brief period back in the days of Gene Kiniski, Whipper Billy Watson, Bulldog Brower, there was a guy who wrestled under the name the "Magnificent Mennonite". (I'm not making this up).

He wore white wrestiling boots with MM on the side.

He actually made Channel 8 wrestling in the days when Ron Moirier(sp?) was the announcer. I think he may have been on TV two or three times.

Talk about wrestling trivia...


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posted 16 March 2005 08:43 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Never heard of the MM. I've seen from around 1960 but in no particular order: Lord Athol Layton; Chief Billy Two Rivers; the Iron Sheik; Gene Kiniski; Killer Kowalski; Butcher and Mad Dog Vachon; Gilles "The Fish" Poisson; Andre the Giant; Hulk Hogan; Hollywood Blonds; Jake the Snake Roberts; Gino Brito; Johnny Rougeau; Spiros Arion; Johnny War Eagle; Dino Bravo (an early favourite); Abdullah the Butcher; LeDuc Brothers; Bruno Sammartino (another early favourite); Bret Hart; Rowdy Roddy Piper; Junk Yard Dog; Ultimate Warrior; and my all time favourite, Edouard Carpentier and his backward flip. Living in Ottawa and with the family driving often between Montreal and Ottawa, I saw a lot of this stuff. Wasn't much else on in either place at the time, and the girlfriend loved to go to this stuff as much as I did, for the noise, screaming, all that stuff. And the Beach Boys every year at the Ottawa Exhibition (I may go back to the "Ex" this year for the first time since 1974 or so just for the memories). Also watched the Montreal Canadiens beat everyone else at the Forum. Neat thread, this, but it makes me feel old.

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posted 16 March 2005 12:36 PM      Profile for Bobolink   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I could add Yukon Eric and Angelo Mosca (who wrestled after he retired from the Tiger-Cats).
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posted 16 March 2005 12:43 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In keeping with the topic, if I remember correctly one of Vince McMahon's right-hand men, Pat Patterson (also a former wrestler, is openly gay. When his life partner died a few years ago it was mentioned on air in a very respectful manner. That doesn't mitigate, of course, the shameless homophobia often displayed in pro wrestling, but I remember being quietly impressed by the class displayed in a not-so classy business.
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Hephaestion
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posted 16 March 2005 12:47 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Coyote:
In keeping with the topic, if I remember correctly one of Vince McMahon's right-hand men, Pat Patterson (also a former wrestler, is openly gay.

He is. From the Edmonton Sun link above:

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The Rock says his most important mentor, wrestler Pat Paterson is gay.

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posted 16 March 2005 12:53 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I ain't got no time to read no stinkin' links!
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Hephaestion
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posted 16 March 2005 01:37 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heh. That quote is actually reproduced right at the top of this thread, so there's no link-following even necessary...
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posted 16 March 2005 01:49 PM      Profile for Drinkmore     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What about Sweet Daddy Siki:

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He moved to Toronto in 1961 because it was a good central location to travel across North America. "When I came to Toronto, I said 'My God, this is God's country," he said recently. "I fell in love with it." He still lives in Toronto today, and uses it as a base for his country & western band and his work as a DJ.

He used to run a wrrasszling school down in one of those warehouses southeast of King & Dufferin. Met him a few times in the hall - quite the character.


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Bacchus
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He lives near the ex actually and his kids used to play with my ex-wife and her brother growing up. They still remember him very fondly
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posted 16 March 2005 03:01 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You people make me sad. You're forgetting the Bolsheviks! They made Communism in the WWF cool!

Honestly, I never liked the Rock as a wrestler. But from interviews, he appears to be a fairly intelligent and well-mannered person...With a penchant for picking up what appears to be horrible rolls (Doom: The Movie?).


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posted 16 March 2005 03:23 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Allan Rock was a wrestler?
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posted 16 March 2005 04:34 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestion:
Heh. That quote is actually reproduced right at the top of this thread, so there's no link-following even necessary...
I ain't got no stinkin' time to read!

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Janelle
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posted 16 March 2005 08:24 PM      Profile for Janelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hulk Hogan is part owner of the Tampa Bay Lightning now... his daughter sang the anthem at most of the games. Man, he hasn't aged a bit- even has the awesome mustache still!
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quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestion:
*gawd* I'm sooooo ashamed! I actually know who all these wrestlers ARE.

*slink, slink, slink*


So do I! *slinks with Heph*

PS. I get to slink faster than you because I also remember the Bolsheviks and "The King" Harley Race.

PPS. I also remember all the wrestlers in the NWA, like the Four Horsemen, The Midnight Express (that crazy fucker Jimmy Cornette STILL is in the WWF today and STILL waves around that goddamn tennis racket. ), Nikita Koloff, Dusty Rhodes (at first, of course, I wondered why a guy would call himself "Dusty Roads" First time I saw the guy he was ranting about "the common people" this and that; to this day I don't remember why), Barry Windham, and on and on.

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posted 18 March 2005 11:59 AM      Profile for Tommy Shanks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
What about Sweet Daddy Siki:

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He moved to Toronto in 1961 because it was a good central location to travel across North America. "When I came to Toronto, I said 'My God, this is God's country," he said recently. "I fell in love with it." He still lives in Toronto today, and uses it as a base for his country & western band and his work as a DJ.
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I pass the Duke, a bit of a dive bar, at Leslie and Queen most days. They have a tattered old sign up the says the "Sweet Daddy Siki Karaoke Show - Saturdays"

Before reading this thread I used to think "What in the Jesus is that about". I don't know if it still goes on or what. Just thought it was, for a stage name, pretty crappy.

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posted 18 March 2005 12:44 PM      Profile for nister     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What of the tag team ostensibly from Australia; was is the Kangaroo Bros., or the Kangaroo Twins?
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posted 18 March 2005 01:28 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don't remember their name, but I saw the tag team you are thinking of, in Toronto in 1993. They wore green camoflauge pants and t-shirts.

I also saw Bob Backlund and Ric Flair that same event - the only wrestling match I've ever been to since the 1960's. And only because a friend of mine in northern Ontario asked me to drive him down to Toronto for a Hulk Hogan matchup. I don't remember who the Hulkster wrestled but it might have been Sergeant Slaughter.

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posted 18 March 2005 02:49 PM      Profile for Jacob Two-Two     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They were the Bushwhackers, if memory serves, not that I ever watched much professional wrestling, but I enjoyed the performance aspect of it from time to time. I liked the way they would stomp around the ring when they won.

My favourite was always The Ultimate Warrior, for the cool name, the awesome look, and the fact that he never spoke. A real virtue in a wrestler, I thought.


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posted 18 March 2005 02:59 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah! The "Bushwhackers" were the ones I was trying to remember. I saw them in Toronto along with Hulk Hogan in 1993. They were funny, almost clowns. Wonder what happened to them?
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