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paxamillion
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posted 02 February 2005 05:25 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Carrying on from the Rogers buy of SkyDome, let's talk about stadiums we have loved and hated.
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posted 02 February 2005 05:29 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jarry Park. My first
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Sharon
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You beat me to it, RB. I loved Jarry Park and went to a lot of Expo games there.
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posted 02 February 2005 06:53 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
mckechnie field, of course, the spring training home of the pittsburgh pirates. aged 15, i got both barry bonds and bobby bonilla to sign my programme.
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Fenway Park. Gotta love the Green Monster.
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I hated Exhibition Stadium for baseball. I still hate it. I remember watching games from bleacher seats 300 feet behind the centre-field wall.
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Loved the old "Tagger Stadium"
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Oh yes, that was nice - although the neighbourhood was truly scary.
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posted 02 February 2005 08:56 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I went to a game at Fenway when the first Gulf War was winding down. There was serious hoopla: bands, colour guards, free tix to veterans, flypasts, etc.

Other than that, it was a great night.


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posted 02 February 2005 08:57 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Went to the Ex for a few Jays games back in the 80s and saw why it was unsuitable for baseball but it was still kind of neat in a weird way. Then several years in my last (unfortunately) trip to Toronto, I ordered seats for a Jays game like 2 months in advace by phone (this was pre-Internet). When I got to the Skydome, I found I had seats BEHIND the lights way up in heaven! Never sat behind the lights before. The game was a rumour up there, of course but we did get to see the dome retract.

Best place still to see a game: Wrigley Field. Go Cubs.
Absolute freakin' worst: the Metrodome.


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beyond scarey, for sure. My brother once toon a date to the same neighbourhood for a "non-baseball event". When he retuned to his vehicle, he realized to his horror that he had left his keys inside. Thinking he might be able to call AAA or CAAA, he signalled the next person coming down the street and explained his plight.

The reponse - "what kinda veehikal you got, bro ?"
His "host opened a top-coat, pulled out a wood box, that opened to reveal a large and well-catalogued collection of vehicle keys.

$50 and a few minutes later, brother was on his way.


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quote:
Originally posted by Egalitarian American:

Best place still to see a game: Wrigley Field. Go Cubs.


Absolutely.

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posted 03 February 2005 12:00 AM      Profile for canadianpatriot     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Oliver Cromwell:

Absolutely.

Yeah I always thought the Metrodome in Minneapolis is kind of ripping off the fans.

I would love to see football without the dome, play with the elements, that's what makes it great.


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quote:
Originally posted by canadianpatriot:
I would love to see football without the dome, play with the elements, that's what makes it great.

That and REAL grass. I can't stand turf, although it is a lot nicer to tumble on...


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posted 03 February 2005 12:26 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I NEVER liked the Skydome. At all. The floor was always sticky and the bathrooms in the nosebleed section I always felt smelled funny.

Mind you, I've never been to any other stadium...


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posted 03 February 2005 10:49 AM      Profile for Tommy Shanks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A day-game at Yankee Stadium is a day well spent. A night game is rougher. A night game in the bleachers is something I'd think twice about again. Getting there is half the adventure.

I liked the old Tiger Stadium, again not the neighbourhood. I've never seen so much razor-wire around parking lots.

The park in Winnipeg, where the Goldeye play is pretty nice.


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Fenway is the only other pro park I've been to, and I loved it -- we had great seats, right next to Jesse Barfield on a night when he tore his pants.

Exhausted Stadium was awful, yes, but never quite so awful as our just-rebranded CableDome.

Christie Pits is a real ballpark. I keep swearing I'll go there instead.

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posted 03 February 2005 11:02 AM      Profile for johnpauljones     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I really liked the old tiger stadium, fenway and wrigley.

Hated the old barn in Cleveland and even worse was Vet stadium in Philly.

Skydome's main problem was that it was built just before the retro phase kicked in. But I will say that in the late '80s and early '90s when it was packed for every game it was a great atmosphere to see a game in.


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posted 03 February 2005 11:06 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by johnpauljones:

Hated the old barn in Cleveland and even worse was Vet stadium in Philly.


I grew up in that old barn. And while compared to so many other ballparks it was pretty crappy, I guess one can get sentimental over even that. I used to cut class at Cleveland State in April and sit in the cheap seats and watched the game delayed because of the fog rolling off Lake Erie. It was, like 5 degrees celsius and maybe 2,000 people there. But the best seats were cheap, and you didn't have to worry about parking or crowds or johnny-come-lately fans. If you were there, you were hardcore. I was there at the last night game. They played Sinatra's "There Used to be a Ballpark Here" as they turned out the lights one last time.

Yeah, it was moving.


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EA my problem with the barn was that for baseball it seemd to lack any atmosphere. Now if yuou want to talk about great football stadiums. Give me the dog pound any day.
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quote:
Originally posted by johnpauljones:
EA my problem with the barn was that for baseball it seemd to lack any atmosphere. Now if yuou want to talk about great football stadiums. Give me the dog pound any day.

You're right of course on baseball atmosphere. It wasn't baseball, it was just hanging out with family and friends. And the dog pound really hasnt been the same since the "new Browns" moved to the new place.


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Showing my age here but I really liked the old Maple Leaf Stadium in Toronto where I used to watch the Maple Leafs of the AAA International League. Kind of run down in its later years but still a great place to watch a game.

The Skydome has its problems, especially with the cheap seats neat the Jumbotron where the outfield was blocked off from sight. But it sure beat Exhibition Stadium with a cold wind coming off Lake Ontario in early April. Yes, the covered stands beyond the outfield wall were a long way from home plate but where else could you take your son out to a ball game for les than $10.00? My son loved thiose cheap seats where the real baseball fans lived and we could boo the suits behind home plate who wouldn't continue the wave.

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posted 04 February 2005 04:26 PM      Profile for bear604/778   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A few parks out west:

Foothills Stadium/Burns Stadium (Calgary) - A great view of the Rockies on clear nights if you were seated high enough. Suspicious hops in the infield Beer vendors with backpack kegs. For the longest time in the 90's, Calgary had quiet hockey fans and rowdy baseball fans.

Renfew Park/Telus Field (Edmonton) - They rebuilt the park with a nice view of the North Saskatchewan River valley, but whose idea was it to install an astroturf infield with a grass outfield?

Multnomah Stadium/PGE Park (Portland) - Great sightlines but ugly worn out turf. Lots of empty seats once the locals decided the Pacific Coast League wasn't good enough. The street level patio overlooking the park would be a great place for parties if it wasn't set aside for family seating.

Safeco Field (Seattle) - I like sitting in the center field bleachers to avoid the Diamond Vision, which is too much of a distraction. Food is OK, but can be bypassed with cheap ballpark eats available on Royal Brougham Way across the street. The breeze off Elliot Bay comes in handy on hot afternoons. If the roof is closed during day games, the light peeking through the fabric panels has the effect of twinkling stars.

Nat Bailey Stadium (Vancouver) - UBC's short NAIA season in March/April makes for fun outings for anyone who brings a blanket & a thermos. Once the Canadians start in June, the crowds pick up, microbrews are on top, the hot dog relish in sublime, and the evenings become magical as it feels like the trees at Queen Elizabeth Park are creeping up to the outfield wall in the dark of the late innings.


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quote:
Originally posted by bear604/778:
Nat Bailey Stadium (Vancouver) - UBC's short NAIA season in March/April makes for fun outings for anyone who brings a blanket & a thermos. Once the Canadians start in June, the crowds pick up, microbrews are on top, the hot dog relish in sublime, and the evenings become magical as it feels like the trees at Queen Elizabeth Park are creeping up to the outfield wall in the dark of the late innings.

Indeed. I haven't been there since the AAA team bolted for glamourous Sacramento, but attended a whole lot of games in 1994. My dad was stuck in Vancouver for cancer treatment over the summer, and the charitable house in which we were staying had bleacher tickets donated for every game. Once the game would start, we'd always sneak down to sit behind the home dugout. This is when many of the players who would form the nucleus of the Angels World Series team were doing their time in AAA, so we got to see Darin Erstad, Garrett Anderson, Troy Percival, et al on a regular basis. Moreover, Jim Abbott (the one-armed pitcher) even pitched a few games there during his eventually aborted comeback attempt.

I've only ever attended games at Skydome, the Kingdome (*shudder*), Anaheim Stadium pre-renovations, and The Big O, but I think an underrated MLB stadium is Kauffman in Kansas City. It probably seems vanilla now what with the influx of 'retro' parks that have been constructed over the past ten or so years, but I loved that center-field waterfall when I was a kid.

As far as the new ones go, Pittsburgh and Milwaukee seem pretty nice. Apparently Shea is the biggest dump in the majors.


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Jarry Park. My first

I think I was five or so when the Expos started playing in Montreal.

For a few years there, I was under the impression that Jarry Park was a member of the team.


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I've only been to two, so I don't have much basis of comparison...but much as I loathe the fact that our sales tax dollars paid for it, and was frustrated about the whole debate over where it was going to be located, Great American Ball Park totally kicks Riverfront Stadium/Cinergy Field's ass.

I've heard from those who have been to a lot of the newer baseball stadiums that GABP is a rather ho-hum example, but it seemed cool to me. A lot closer to the action than at Riverfront, it's more open, and lets you see the river and the skyline from inside the park.


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But it sure beat Exhibition Stadium with a cold wind coming off Lake Ontario in early April.

April?

I remember sitting in the first base bleachers at a Yankee/Jays night game in July '84. By the middle of the game the big scoreboard that sat out in the endzone of the football field showed a temperature of 6C. With a stiff breeze off the lake and the aluminum benches sucking the life's heat out of my body, I cannot ever remember being so miserable.

Without any hint of hyperbole, I can say that Skydome, for all its faults is a million times better than the Ex.

Saw the beloved Dodgers play a series with the Cubs at Wriggley in '83. It is a perfect venue for baseball, with Fenway and Chavez Ravine right there as well. It's not just the brick and mortar that are ideal, it's the fans and the atmosphere they generate.


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My best memories are from when I played at Doug Kerr Field in Prince Rupert.

Our field at Ingleside School (a one-room schoolhouse that was still standing when we played there) was rather rustic, but it was fun as well.


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The Big O. I know, I know. Its sentimental. As a newspaper carrier I won a trip to Montreal to see the Expos play. I was a third baseman and Larry Parrish was still playing. It was amazing just to be there. Gave away my Expos cap in Nicaragua in 1990.
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Dodger Stadium (Chavez Ravine) is a beautiful park. I was there as a kid with my Dad the day Dennis Martinez pitched a perfect game against the Expos - it was a Sunday afternoon, brilliant sunshine, and a fantastic game.

Safeco Field was great. Much better than the Kingdome, which as someone mentioned eariler was a horrific place for baseball (or anything else for that matter!).

And, I will add my name to the list of Nat Bailey Stadium lovers. What a great little ball park, with the large dark green trees in the outfield as a backdrop, and a very intimate feel.


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Much better than the Kingdome, which as someone mentioned eariler was a horrific place for baseball (or anything else for that matter!).

A few years back, when they blew up the Kingdome, thousands of people watched and cheered. And it was heartfelt, not just the cheering that seems (for some reason) to accompany any building demolition.


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