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Catchfire
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posted 15 April 2007 11:38 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Neue Haas Grotesk: The Official Typeface of the Twentieth Century

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Typefaces generally rely on subtle alterations to make their impact. In his photo-heavy book Helvetica, designer Lars Müller praises the titular typeface for its "understated self-assurance" – describing it as if it were an especially pleasing glass of shiraz.

In the same book, designer Katherine McCoy goes further, arguing that, "The Helvetica Medium lower-case `a'... is the most beautiful two-dimensional form ever designed. Its luxurious sensual curves are balanced by points of crisp tension. Its lovely counter makes me think of Mozart."

Why is Helvetica praised like this? Certainly no one is singing from the rooftops about Times New Roman. But Helvetica is more than simply a popular typeface. Many consider it the official typeface of the 20th century.



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Cueball
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posted 15 April 2007 11:56 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I personally like to mix the two typefaces, Helvetica, and Times Roman. Using Helvetica for titles, and Times Roman for text, helps distinguish title from text, and I think looks distinguished.

I personally find Times, slightly easier to read, as the nuanced letters are easier to indentify than the bolder Helvetica, but that may be a false impression. On the other hand as titles, the lager Helvetica is eye catching especially when set in contrast to a Times Roman body.


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Geneva
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posted 16 April 2007 05:34 AM      Profile for Geneva     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
BTW, what type is babble?
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quelar
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posted 16 April 2007 06:18 AM      Profile for quelar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Verdana I believe...
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Michelle
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posted 16 April 2007 06:22 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Verdana, I believe.
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Michelle
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posted 16 April 2007 06:22 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jinx!
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quelar
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posted 16 April 2007 07:58 AM      Profile for quelar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
C'mon, I had you by 4 minutes! You can't pull a Jinx on me!
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Michelle
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posted 16 April 2007 08:02 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I realized that after I posted. It's because I had the thread up, got distracted by something at work (how dare work interfere with my babbling!) and then came back to it and posted.
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Catchfire
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posted 16 April 2007 08:08 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Please, could we get this very important thread back on topic? Some of us would like to discuss the intricacies of linotype serifs without the chatterings of petty parlour games.

Personally, I prefer Baskerville Old Face. But Helvie has her uses, don't get me wrong.


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scott
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posted 16 April 2007 08:21 AM      Profile for scott   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Geneva:
BTW, what type is babble?

The body text is "Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif", which more than likely means Verdana on a Windows machine, Helvetica on a Mac and "whatever" sans-serif on a Linux box.

I think that Geneva was probably referring to the "babble" logo. It is tough to ID a font when you only have 4 glyphs to work with. My guess is Trajanus, but I have posted a copy to alt.binaries.fonts to see what the anoraks over there can come up with (shouldn't take long).

[ 16 April 2007: Message edited by: scott ]


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scott
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posted 16 April 2007 08:56 AM      Profile for scott   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by scott:
I have posted a copy to alt.binaries.fonts to see what the anoraks over there can come up with (shouldn't take long).

It's Galliard (37 minutes).


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quelar
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posted 16 April 2007 09:08 AM      Profile for quelar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Catchfire:
Please, could we get this very important thread back on topic? Some of us would like to discuss the intricacies of linotype serifs without the chatterings of petty parlour games.

Personally, I prefer Baskerville Old Face. But Helvie has her uses, don't get me wrong.


I'm a big fan of 'Garamond' It's clean, but still a little different from the norm.

Papyrus is fun too...


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Catchfire
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posted 16 April 2007 09:32 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For the record, I was just being an ass.

Garamond is lovely. I don't much care for papyrus, but it's more of a specialty type anyway.


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quelar
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posted 16 April 2007 10:08 AM      Profile for quelar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Catchfire:
For the record, I was just being an ass.

We are NOT amused.

quote:
Garamond is lovely. I don't much care for papyrus, but it's more of a specialty type anyway.

It's definitely a speciality type, but plays well with others (I've got an extensive email signature for work)


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jas
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posted 16 April 2007 08:59 PM      Profile for jas     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gill Sans is still my favourite - for ultimate, almost-nostalgic simplicity. I believe many of my first childhood readers would have been in this typeface, or something similar.

Not one you see on the Web though.

[ 16 April 2007: Message edited by: jas ]


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Michelle
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posted 16 April 2007 09:31 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Whatever you do, please support the banning of Comic Sans.
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Coyote
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posted 16 April 2007 09:33 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I want that bunnyhug!
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jrose
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posted 09 September 2008 08:54 AM      Profile for jrose     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Has anyone seen the documentary, Helvetica?
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