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Hephaestion
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posted 23 November 2005 04:00 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, that's right... our Audra is a trend-setter!

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Oscar winner Charlize Theron has been dating actor Stuart Townsend for quite some time, but don't expect them to get hitched anytime soon. When asked about her marriage plans Theron explained that marriage isn't her cup of tea, saying that she will tie the knot the day it becomes legal for gays and lesbians to wed across America. "We came up with a new idea that we said we would get married the day that gays and lesbians can get married. The day that law is passed we'll get married," she said.

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posted 23 November 2005 04:03 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In Audra's case though, it was a reasonable gesture. Stuart Townsend is 33 and will likely be dead before marriage is legalized throughout the United States.
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posted 23 November 2005 04:20 PM      Profile for MartinArendt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I love Charlize Theron. I love the roles she picks. I love her ethics. I think she's a terrific actress.

And what a babe! Hoo-boy! Check out those gazongas!!!

(cough) Er...sorry about that. Don't know where that came from, exactly.


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posted 23 November 2005 04:23 PM      Profile for writer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's called stupid sexism, Martin. It comes from thoughtlessness and inconsideration for half the world's population. And it really, really stinks.

[ 23 November 2005: Message edited by: writer ]


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posted 23 November 2005 04:27 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From anecdotes I've heard all too often, Charlize Theron appears to be, as far as I can tell, the only celebrity I've heard that gays or straights, male or female all consider a potential sex partner. I swear, this came up the last year when we had our annual family winter reunion; 15 people, and every last one of us agreed, without shame or hesitation. Even my mother!!

[ 23 November 2005: Message edited by: Hinterland ]


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posted 23 November 2005 04:41 PM      Profile for MartinArendt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by writer:
It's called stupid sexism, Martin. It comes from thoughtlessness and inconsideration for half the world's population. And it really, really stinks.

[ 23 November 2005: Message edited by: writer ]


Um...

Er...

Whoa.

I was trying to be ironic. You know...because she's a feminist...and everything...so, you know...saying I love her ethics...and then, you know...objectifying her in a silly way...kind of, you know, doing a "bit"...a "routine", if you will...saying a thing that I don't really think, to...you know...um...kind of...make a point...comically...and stuff...

...I don't know...I thought it was kind of funny. Sorry.


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posted 23 November 2005 04:47 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don't worry, Martin. Some of us, even those of us who are aware of how risky ironic sexism is on babble, understood what you meant, because we know, of course, that you're not sexist.
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posted 23 November 2005 04:48 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Martin, i learned a long time ago that when you make an ironic point orally, people get it.

When you make it in writing, the chances are far greater that people will think you are serious.

I remember a Chilean refugee case, about twenty years ago. The client had been arrested by the secret police, or DINA, and taken to a prison where torture often occurred.

So the immigration officer asked the question:

"Did they inform you of your right to counsel?" and his answer, all sarcastic, was "Oh sure, the DINA would never violate your rights!". Later, it turned out that the person in Ottawa reading the transcript thought that the client's attitude towards the DINA was "contradictory".

So, beware.


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posted 23 November 2005 04:50 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I understand where you were coming from now that you've explained, Martin (I was kind of surprised to read your post at first because it was so out of character for you), but ironic racism (and also sexism) is frowned upon 'round these parts. Most of us know you well enough to know you aren't sexist and that you were just being funny, but as jeff house says, sometimes it doesn't come across as easily written down.

Thanks for understanding.

[ 23 November 2005: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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Jeez, when I read the first line of the quote, I thought Audra was also dating Stuart Townsend...
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posted 23 November 2005 04:53 PM      Profile for MartinArendt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the warning. Maybe from now on, I'll have disclaimers before my jokes, like so:

(WARNING: I DO NOT SUPPORT SEXIST OR OBJECTIFYING COMMENTS. THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IS MEANT TO BE CONSTRUED AS BEING OPPOSITE TO WHAT I TRULY BELIEVE. IT IS INTENDED BY THE AUTHOR THAT SAID COMMENT BE CONSIDERED TO BE "HUMOUROUS", BY VIRTUE OF THIS CONTRADICTION, OR "IRONY". APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE FOR LACK OF HUMOUR)


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posted 23 November 2005 04:54 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
P.S. The wedding's still on, right?
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posted 23 November 2005 05:01 PM      Profile for MartinArendt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, of course! I'm thinking of ordering some begonias, for the wedding display. Thoughts?

(WARNING: I DO NOT SUPPORT ANTI-FLOWER COMMENTS. THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IS MEANT TO BE CONSTRUED AS BEING OPPOSITE TO WHAT I TRULY BELIEVE. IT IS INTENDED BY THE AUTHOR THAT SAID COMMENT BE CONSIDERED TO BE "HUMOUROUS", BY VIRTUE OF THIS CONTRADICTION, OR "IRONY". APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE FOR LACK OF HUMOUR)

Flowers are bad and stupid.


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posted 23 November 2005 05:05 PM      Profile for googlymoogly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Flowers make me hot. Am I flowerist?
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Yeah, telling a feminist that she doesn't have a sense of humour. That's a new one. Oh, oh, your objectification and reduction of her was meant in an *ironic* way. Oh, now I get it. Oh. Ha hah ha ha ha! Now can I try to fit in with the other cool kids who get your great, ironic humour?
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posted 23 November 2005 05:08 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No, I think it's just you that doesn't have a sense of humour, writer. Or at least, you try very hard not to have one.
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posted 23 November 2005 05:11 PM      Profile for Jeb616   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A dude married a tree. Im outraged. Here.
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posted 23 November 2005 05:12 PM      Profile for writer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hinterland, blow me! Hah hah HAAAAH!!!
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posted 23 November 2005 05:14 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
See? I find that funny. I laughed.
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posted 23 November 2005 05:14 PM      Profile for MartinArendt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by writer:
Yeah, telling a feminist that she doesn't have a sense of humour. That's a new one. Oh, oh, your objectification and reduction of her was meant in an *ironic* way. Oh, now I get it. Oh. Ha hah ha ha ha! Now can I try to fit in with the other cool kids who get your great, ironic humour?

I apologized, writer. You were right, I should have been clear. I was reprimanded. Let's not keep beating a dead horse.


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posted 23 November 2005 05:15 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Timing...

[ 23 November 2005: Message edited by: al-Qa'bong ]


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quote:
Don't worry, Martin. Some of us, even those of us who are aware of how risky ironic sexism is on babble, understood what you meant, because we know, of course, that you're not sexist.
Seconded.

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posted 23 November 2005 05:19 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Okay, shall we all just cool it? Martin, I appreciate your explanation and apology from earlier, but the sarcastic disclaimers are really not necessary, and it's just drawing the whole thing out. writer had a valid point - the reason we have a "no ironic racism or sexism" rule isn't because it's bad on all levels and all mediums, but because on a discussion board it is too easily misunderstood, as it obviously was in this case.

I think we also recognize that Martin is a well-liked, good contributing member to babble, so we don't need to keep raking him over the coals, or rigorously defending his honour for the rest of the thread. Maybe we could just move on.


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Thank, Michelle. And Hinterland - I *meant* it to be funny. So there.
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posted 23 November 2005 05:37 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So... er... what about that Charlize Theron, eh?
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posted 23 November 2005 05:39 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestion:
So... er... what about that Charlize Theron, eh?

I heard she's marrying Audra or something.


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posted 23 November 2005 05:41 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Theron rulez! There. I'm done.
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posted 23 November 2005 05:44 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by RealityBites:
I heard she's marrying Audra or something.
Yes, but only when men are allowed to marry donkeys.

Now what was all that about facetious humour that is likely to offend?


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posted 23 November 2005 05:45 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by RealityBites:

I heard she's marrying Audra or something.


Oh yea, like Mark wasn't lucky enough already.

[ 23 November 2005: Message edited by: HeywoodFloyd ]


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quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
Oh yea, like Mark wasn't lucky enough already.

So let me get this straight - you think he's lucky to be getting Stuart Townsend?


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posted 23 November 2005 05:51 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Since I don't know who Stuart Townsend is I couldn't comment.
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quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
Since I don't know who Stuart Townsend is I couldn't comment.

Sure, you're just waiting for William Stairs to tell you what to say.


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quote:
Originally posted by RealityBites:

Sure, you're just waiting for William Stairs to tell you what to say.


Wow. You're 2-0 on me. The explorer William Stairs?


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I so totally don't get this thread.
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posted 23 November 2005 06:24 PM      Profile for Diane Demorney   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mandos:
I so totally don't get this thread.

It's quite simple. Audra, Charlize and Stuart are getting married to each other, i.e. polygamy But only when GBLTs are allowed to be married in the U.S. So, my thinking is, that the neo-cons were right all along re: the slippery slope. However, if 3 people can marry each other, then what's to stop 4 people? Therefore, Audra, Charlize and Stuart: will you marry me?

Or, my alternative answer is the same as Mandos.


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posted 23 November 2005 08:04 PM      Profile for MartinArendt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Okay, shall we all just cool it? Martin, I appreciate your explanation and apology from earlier, but the sarcastic disclaimers are really not necessary, and it's just drawing the whole thing out. writer had a valid point - the reason we have a "no ironic racism or sexism" rule isn't because it's bad on all levels and all mediums, but because on a discussion board it is too easily misunderstood, as it obviously was in this case.

I think we also recognize that Martin is a well-liked, good contributing member to babble, so we don't need to keep raking him over the coals, or rigorously defending his honour for the rest of the thread. Maybe we could just move on.


I dig, Michelle. Sorry Writer.

(back to thread)

Charlize is marrying Audra? I left for a couple hours and look what happens!


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Just so long as we don't all end up marrying the same goat.
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quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:

Wow. You're 2-0 on me. The explorer William Stairs?


No, Stephen Harper's communications director. That you don't know who he is makes me rather happy about the Conservative prospects.


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quote:
I so totally don't get this thread.
It is the postmodern thread, so you are not supposed to get it. Just nod, pretend to understand and tell a personal, emotional story where you learned something cruel about life. Oh yeah, and then contradict yourself over and over again.

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You're so wrong: It's a lost Seinfeld episode.
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I laughed my head off all through this!
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quote:
Originally posted by Cartman:
It is the postmodern thread, so you are not supposed to get it. Just nod, pretend to understand and tell a personal, emotional story where you learned something cruel about life. Oh yeah, and then contradict yourself over and over again.

I see what you mean.

It kind of reminds me of that day in ought seven...I'll never forget that horrible day. Me n' Jeb were down by the creek, fishin' and talkin' and talkin' and fishin', just havin' a whale of a time. Jeb turns to me, and he says, like this, he says "you know, Martin, you might jus' be the wackiest fella I ever did meet" and I says to him, I says "why, whatever do ya mean, Jeb?" An' so he turns to me and says, what he says is like this, he says "well, Martin, it's jus..." an' as he turns to tell me, a huge wave leaps up an' swallers him whole! "Jeb!" I cried, "Jeb!" But to no avail.

And that's how I learned that there ain't no justice in this damn world, and every fish fends for hisself.

But I guess, really, there is justice. Jus' not fer Jeb.

Or is there?

Goat.


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Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:

Wow. You're 2-0 on me. The explorer William Stairs?


quote:
Originally posted by RealityBites:

No, Stephen Harper's communications director. That you don't know who he is makes me rather happy about the Conservative prospects.



Does this make Harper the Stairs Master?

*running and ducking*

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quote:
Originally posted by RealityBites:

No, Stephen Harper's communications director. That you don't know who he is makes me rather happy about the Conservative prospects.


*snort*

It probably should.


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quote:
Originally posted by audra trower williams:
I laughed my head off all through this!
Well, sure. You're the one who gets to marry Charlize Theron.

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quote:
Originally posted by writer:
Just so long as we don't all end up marrying the same goat.

Hey Now! That better be ironic humour.


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quote:
Originally posted by MartinArendt:

I see what you mean.

It kind of reminds me of that day in ought seven...I'll never forget that horrible day. Me n' Jeb were down by the creek, fishin' and talkin' and talkin' and fishin', just havin' a whale of a time. Jeb turns to me, and he says, like this, he says "you know, Martin, you might jus' be the wackiest fella I ever did meet" and I says to him, I says "why, whatever do ya mean, Jeb?" An' so he turns to me and says, what he says is like this, he says "well, Martin, it's jus..." an' as he turns to tell me, a huge wave leaps up an' swallers him whole! "Jeb!" I cried, "Jeb!" But to no avail.

And that's how I learned that there ain't no justice in this damn world, and every fish fends for hisself.

But I guess, really, there is justice. Jus' not fer Jeb.

Or is there?

Goat.



Ain't no one here but us tree's.


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Since this thread has already had lots of drift, can I add my own drift? Hell, what am I saying, of course I can! Who's gonna stop me? (Don't tell Audra on me, okay?)

Anyhow, about "actress" - is that word still used to describe female actors? I always thought all actors were called, well, actors now.


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Agreed, Michelle! Any feminist worth its salt would know that.

Goat. Step One

Goat. Step Two

Goat. Step Three

Goat. Step Four (in comments of step three):

quote:
I'm sure he'd feel better to know that some of the feminist posters on our cute little Canadian discussion board are man-hating male man-lovers, if you know what I mean. Heck, even I'm married. Of course, this being Canada, my spouse might be a multi-sexed goat.

[ 24 November 2005: Message edited by: writer ]


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quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Anyhow, about "actress" - is that word still used to describe female actors? I always thought all actors were called, well, actors now.

While lots of people use the term actor, including many in the business, it hasn't caught on much in awards shows or light ('lite?') entertainment reporting.

Heph is just an old fuddy-duddy, of course.


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quote:
Originally posted by Albireo:
Yes, but only when men are allowed to marry donkeys. [/i]

1. Are men not allowed to marry donkeys ??

2. Is there any way we could work Reese Witherspoon into this conversation?


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