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Michelle
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posted 06 February 2007 02:02 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I found this interesting.

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The "CSI Effect" (sometimes referred to as the "CSI syndrome") is a reference to the phenomenon of popular television shows such as the CSI franchise, Law & Order franchise, and Crossing Jordan raising crime victims' and jury members' real-world expectations of forensic science, especially crime scene investigation and DNA testing. This is said to have changed the way many trials are presented today, in that prosecutors are pressured to deliver more forensic evidence in court.

Academia is also said to feel this effect. Universities have seen an increase in students enrolling in forensic science and related science programs. There has been criticism from police departments [1] that, in an effort to increase their student numbers, universities have been offering unsuitable courses, leaving graduates unprepared for real-world forensic work. The traditional academic route followed by a would-be forensic scientist has been to pursue a primary (bachelor's) degree in a general-science subject such as chemistry or biology, followed by a suitable postgraduate course or some type of in-service training.


From Wikipedia

I don't think I've heard of the "CSI Effect" before. Of course, I think that any effect that makes people - potential jurors - think critically about evidence placed before them during criminal trials is probably not too bad.


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Nanuq
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posted 06 February 2007 04:01 PM      Profile for Nanuq   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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I don't think I've heard of the "CSI Effect" before. Of course, I think that any effect that makes people - potential jurors - think critically about evidence placed before them during criminal trials is probably not too bad.

Not if it givers jurors unrealistic expectations about what can and can't be done with forensic evidence. Gathering forensic evidence takes a lot more time and expense than you get to see on TV. As it stands, it's becoming next to impossible to get a rape conviction without DNA evidence to back it up these days.


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M. Spector
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posted 06 February 2007 05:01 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Catchfire
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posted 06 February 2007 07:51 PM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
On a related note:
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It was the 1976 film All the President's Men that epitomized the on-screen image of the heroic journalist. Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman play Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein respectively, the two reporters who famously uncover the Watergate scandal, which leads to Nixon's resignation. "The film impressed upon people the idea of journalism as a heroic crusade," says Liam Lacey of The Globe and Mail. "People began to see it as a significant social job to have." Following the release of the film, there was a surge in journalism school enrollment. "The film venerated the press," says Onstad. "Suddenly people wanted to be these great heroes."

Journalism Goes Hollywood


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clockwork
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posted 11 February 2007 08:55 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
My understanding is that very few labs are actually CSI-like to begin with. I remember reading an article quoting a forensic scientist that wished he had regular access to what is shown on TV. Whether I saw that of not, a simple search came up with this:
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Most CSI labs and morgues, moreover, are not as clean or state-of-the-art as those on "CSI." Miami medical examiner Dr. Satish Chundru also claims that the TV series are often misleading in regularly pinpointing a "time of death" and getting quick and conclusive test results -- especially for DNA.
"You can't just stick a swab in a computer and it spits out an answer," he said. "It takes time, sometimes months."

CNN

Natinal Geographic article

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Left Turn
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posted 12 February 2007 02:08 AM      Profile for Left Turn     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by clockwork:
My understanding is that very few labs are actually CSI-like to begin with. I remember reading an article quoting a forensic scientist that wished he had regular access to what is shown on TV. Whether I saw that of not, a simple search came up with this:

CNN

Natinal Geographic article[ 11 February 2007: Message edited by: clockwork ]



I saw a show a while back on real-life CSI work, and its very different from what happens on the CSI shows. There's a strict division of labour, and those that gather the evidence do not analyze any of it. The number of people that work on any one case is far greater than we are led to believe based on the CSI franchise, and their work isvery segmented, with most real life CSI workers performing very repetitive tasks. Basically, there is an evidence assembly line of sorts, with evidence being sent to the proper person for analysis. There is usually a substantial wait between the gathering of the evidence, and its analysis, because of the ammount of backlog at most real-life forensics labs.

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Michelle
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posted 12 February 2007 04:22 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by M. Spector:
Previous thread: The CSI effect

Oopsie! Sorry about that. I didn't think to check.


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