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ceti
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posted 17 July 2007 05:48 PM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Only five days away.

Here's my predictions for what happens:

Of course, Snape is redeemed -- all signs point to him being the real hero of the story (the one that has sacrificed all to go deep undercover).

I can't even predict who dies. I don't think any of the kids will die. Voldemort of course is probably one of the main characters that die.

The quest for the Horcruxes will take up most of the book unfortunately. I always thought this was a contrive plot device thrown out only in the sixth book to make it more difficult to kill Voldemort.

The thing with Ginny and the new Potter-Weasley couplet is 50/50. I don't think there is enough space in the book for a new romance though.


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ceti
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posted 17 July 2007 05:50 PM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I also rather see Potter remain single like Frodo, bearing the pain of his encounter with Voldemort, becoming alcoholic, going into rehab, dabbling in dark arts himself, and finally appearing in a documentary some time in the future.
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Stephen Gordon
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posted 17 July 2007 05:58 PM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Some people have taken a lot of time to think about this:

Severus Snape: The Unlikely Hero of Harry Potter book 7

For your convenience, this article has been translated into French, Spanish, Russian and Polish.


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Jacob Two-Two
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posted 17 July 2007 11:51 PM      Profile for Jacob Two-Two     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey! That's exactly what I was going to say. I was already thinking Harry was the seventh horcrux and would have to die to kill Voldomort, but this article convinces me completely. However, I also think he'll come back to life. Don't him and Voldie share a special bond? Didn't Voldomort come back from the grave? Don't both of their wands have feathers from the same phoenix, a symbol of resurrection?

I think Harry will die and be reborn, and now that I'm thinking of it, how else except through the power of love? Isn't that what Dumbledore said gave Harry his edge? That's how Ginny figures. Her love for Harry will bring him back from the grave, just as his mother's love saved his life.


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ceti
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posted 18 July 2007 04:18 PM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You mean like how Trinity brought back Neo in the first Matrix movie? Ugh, love is the deus ex machina of the 21st century!
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Abdul_Maria
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posted 19 July 2007 10:11 AM      Profile for Abdul_Maria     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ginny & Harry in the Prefect's Bathtub ?
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Albireo
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posted 19 July 2007 11:35 AM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Neville Longbottom will play a pivotal role in Book 7: he may even be the big hero that defeats Voldemort.

* The prophecy indicated that somebody born at the end of July has the power to vanquish the Dark Lord... and Neville was born the day of or the day before Harry, July 30th or 31st.

* Neville's parents were effectively killed by Voldemort, tortured to the point of insanity and permanent disability, so he has as much motive for revenge as Harry.

* Early on he was the bumbling, stuttering incompetent who got picked on and mocked. In later books, he got stronger and better, saving Harry's life in battle and kicking some Death-Eater ass in book 5.

My money's on Neville and Snape to be the big heroes of book 7, slaying Voldemort and saving the world while Harry hangs around the mall necking with Ginny and sipping milkshakes. All that build-up in books 1-6 pointing to Harry being the big hero was just to throw the reader off.


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Stephen Gordon
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posted 21 July 2007 10:35 AM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
HP-7 just arrived arrived. Sadly, for reasons that have yet to be convincingly explained to me, our 11-yr-old son is reading it first.

Who would have that there would be a downside to teaching your kids to read?


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oldgoat
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posted 21 July 2007 03:00 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ours showed up this morning. My 20 year old son disappeared into his room with it.
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Albireo
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posted 23 July 2007 10:50 AM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I waged a losing battle all weekend against my 11-year-old son to read the book this weekend. He finished it last night, and I was only a hundred pages in. Of course he was unable to keep it to himself, and slightly ruined the ending for me, in very general terms. But at least now I don't have to compete with him for it, and can plow ahead, hindered only by all of my other time commitments.
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Michelle
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posted 23 July 2007 11:47 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wikipedia has a really interesting account of all the retailing woes behind the release of this book. I'm doing an extra-long quote because if you click on the link, you'll get SPOILERS GALORE. Don't say you weren't warned.

quote:
Anticipation
Rowling made a public request that anyone with advance information about the content of the last book should keep it to themselves, in order to avoid spoiling the experience for other readers.[15] To this end, Bloomsbury invested £10m in an attempt to keep the book's contents secure until the July 21 release date.[16] However, there was speculation that some shops would break the embargo and distribute copies of the book early, as the penalty imposed for previous installments — that the distributor would not be supplied with any further copies of the series — would no longer be a deterrent.[17]


Online leaks
In the week prior to its release, a number of texts purporting to be genuine leaks appeared in a number of forms. On July 16, a set of photographs representing all 759 pages of the U.S. edition was leaked to the Internet and was fully transcribed prior to the official release date.[18][19][20][21] The photographs later appeared on websites and peer-to-peer networks, leading Scholastic to seek a subpoena in order to identify one source.[22] Scholastic described the content of the texts as "convincing" but refused to comment on their authenticity, noting only that several texts had conflicting content, with a similar reaction from the publishers.[22] This represents the most serious security breach in the Harry Potter series' history.[23] Rowling and her lawyer admitted that there were genuine online leaks, but they did not specify which ones they were or if the whole book was available. She requested on her site that fans ignore the online leaks and that readers do not spoil the plot for those waiting on the release on Friday night.[24] Reviews published in both The Baltimore Sun and The New York Times on July 18, 2007 corroborated many of the plot elements from this leak, and about one day prior to release, The New York Times subsequently confirmed that the main circulating leak was real.


Early delivery
One reader in Maryland received a copy of the book in the mail from DeepDiscount.com four days before it was launched, which evoked incredulous responses on the part of both Scholastic and DeepDiscount. Scholastic initially reported that they were satisfied it had been a "human error" and would not discuss whether they would be penalised.[25] However, later the following day, Scholastic announced that approximately 1 ten-thousandth (0.01%) of the U.S. supply had been shipped early, constituting around 1200 copies,[26] and that it would be launching legal action against DeepDiscount.com and its distributor, Levy Home Entertainment.[27] Scholastic has filed for damages in Chicago's Circuit Court of Cook County, claiming[28] that DeepDiscount engaged in a “complete and flagrant violation of the agreements that they knew were part of the carefully constructed release of this eagerly awaited book.”

Some of the early release books soon appeared on eBay, in one case being sold to Publishers Weekly for $250 from an initial price of $18.[29]


Price wars
In Malaysia, as Harry Potter fans awaited the July 21, 2007 release of the book, a price war brought about controversy regarding sales of the book.[30] Four of the biggest bookstore chains in Malaysia, MPH Bookstores, Popular Bookstores, Times and Harris, decided to pull Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows off their shelves as a protest against Tesco and Carrefour hypermarkets. The retail price of the book in Malaysia is MYR 109.90 (about GBP 16.05), while the hypermarkets Tesco and Carrefour sell the book at MYR 69.90 (about GBP 10). This is seen as a move to pressure the distributor Penguin Books to remove the books from the hypermarkets.[30]

In the UK, supermarket Asda claimed that the retail price of the book (UKP17.99: equivalent to US$37 at the time of release) was "holding children to ransom". The publisher responded by threatening to withdraw Asda's supply of the book, claiming a previously unpaid debt.[31] Asda issued an apology and settled the debt, and its supply of the book was restored.[32]

Asda, plus several other UK supermarkets, took pre-orders for the book at a discounted price and then announced a further discount on the day before release; they finally sold the book at £5.00 (equivalent to US$10.28 at the time of release), less than the wholesale price. The book was sold as a loss leader, with the supermarkets taking a loss of just over £3 with every copy sold, but attracting large numbers of customers to their stores. Some supermarkets offered this low price only if a minimum value of other products were bought at the same time; Asda did not impose even this restriction. This attracted uproar from UK booksellers who argued they had no hope of competing in those conditions [33]; independent bookstores protested loudest, but even Waterstone’s, the UK's largest dedicated chain bookstore, could not compete with the supermarket price. Some small bookstores bought their stock from the supermarkets rather than their wholesalers.[31] Philip Wicks, a spokesman for the UK Booksellers Association, said: 'It is a war we can't even participate in. We think it's a crying shame that the supermarkets have decided to treat it as a loss-leader, like a can of baked beans." Michael Norris, an analyst at Simba Information, said: "You are not only lowering the price of the book. At this point, you are lowering the value of reading." [33]

Tesco also lowered its price to £5, but only if customers spent another £50 in store. Morrisons later lowered its price to £4.99 — the cheapest retail price in the UK, although Costco cash and carry are offering the book for £4.98.


SPOILER ALERT - Don't click on this link if you don't want to know what happens in the book!


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jrose
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posted 23 July 2007 12:44 PM      Profile for jrose     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Geez, all this talk is making me think I've missed out on never picking one up. I'm finally getting tempted I think!
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