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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 06 June 2002 11:37 AM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20020606/469225.html&qs=posters
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SamL
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posted 06 June 2002 12:18 PM      Profile for SamL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

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Arch Stanton
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posted 06 June 2002 03:31 PM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I disagree.

T'ain't funny McGee.


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'lance
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posted 06 June 2002 03:40 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's of a piece, though, with the recent spate of phony nostalgia for "the greatest generation."

Those who landed at Normandy, or otherwise fought the Second World War on the allied side, were admirable. But when o when will the Bush Administration stop trying to cloak itself in righteousness by hearkening back to that Good War?

Of course that's a great self-answering question: never, probably.

It's interesting to note, in passing, that the man depicted in the new poster wouldn't likely have been able to become an officer back in Dubya Dubya Too.


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DrConway
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posted 06 June 2002 04:13 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I quite agree. This cloaking of Dubya's war in the mantle of World War 2 is at best amusing and at worst downright disgusting.

No one disputes that terrorism is a threat.

But at least FDR and Congress in the 1940s did not use World War 2 as an excuse to start a free-for-all for big corporations while demanding sacrifices from those least able to afford them.

Contrast that to the tax cut rammed through by Dubya and the continuing pressure to rebate back the Alternative Minimum Tax all the way back to 1986.


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lagatta
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posted 06 June 2002 05:09 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lance, it's worth remembering, that in the US at least, black servicemen had to serve in segregated batallions and often perform a "servile" role. Interestingly, one task considered low enough for the Black servicemen was liberating Nazi death camps...

Of course despite this ironic discrimination in a war that was supposed to be against a racist beast, many service people of colour served bravely. No doubt lynchings, the KKK and the colour bar at home removed any doubts as to whether stories about Hitler could be true.

Dubya's references to the Second World War are an insult to all those who fought fascism.


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ronb
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posted 06 June 2002 05:29 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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But at least FDR and Congress in the 1940s did not use World War 2 as an excuse to start a free-for-all for big corporations while demanding sacrifices from those least able to afford them.

Well, it was something of a free-for-all, in that the aim of the war in the Pacific was to replace the crumbling European control of the region with American dominance. A whole lot of lives sacrificed essentially for the benefit of a tiny cadre of industrialists. Just as the aim of the current "war" is to establish American dominance in the oil-rich central asian region.


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lagatta
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posted 06 June 2002 05:36 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, I agree that the main aims of "our side" in the Second World War had more to do with staking out markets than saving the populations enslaved and murdered by fascism.

I don't know too much about goings on in the States back then, but my mum worked at Supply and Services or whatever the name of the ministry was back then; there were many war profiteers, companies that produced helmets that bullets went right through and corrupt elements "losing" a huge truck that was equipped to do the laundry for an entire batallion (excuse me if I'm week on my military terminology - I mean a very large group of troops). Her job was to try to keep tabs on all of this. Moreover, there was a huge rent increase and housing crisis in Halifax during the war, affecting people working in the port and in defence there.


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