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Boom Boom
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posted 22 May 2006 12:20 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I probably need to start to cut out the late night snacks, but that's when the cravings hit. Unfortunately, weird dreams sometimes follow. I woke up this morning remembering that last night I was giving ex-president Bill Clinton, dressed in shirt, jeans, and baseball cap, a walking tour of Ottawa South. By the time it ended, Clinton was wearing a cleric's alb and chasuble and we were both admiring some truly outstanding churches, but I've no idea where on earth these churches were.

That does it. I'm cutting down on the midnight snacks.


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Hawkins
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posted 22 May 2006 01:39 AM      Profile for Hawkins     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
man you should have stopped by my place! we have a couch in our living room!!!
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posted 22 May 2006 06:36 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think some science fiction must be born of dreams - I've dreamt about time travel a few times. No dreams tonight, thank goodness.
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steffie
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posted 22 May 2006 08:08 AM      Profile for steffie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We should pay attention to our dreams. I have heard it said that not only are we observers or participants in our dreams but we are each of the other players, too.

For example, Boom Boom: What is it about Bill Clinton that you can relate to? What is your connection to organized religion? How might your trait of Bill's effect your views on Spirit?

My sister called because she had a dream about me tending to a dead horse. She was worried that this meant something about me. I can't make her see that it is she who is the tender and also the dying horse.


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Boom Boom
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posted 22 May 2006 09:36 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by steffie:
For example, Boom Boom: What is it about Bill Clinton that you can relate to?


We're both cool guys? (Bill's a great guy when he's not prez)


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posted 29 May 2006 01:38 AM      Profile for Disgusted        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Mostly I find my dreams annoying, they're so damn stupid and pointless. I think they're just a bunch of random neural connections going on in our brains, devoid of ultimate meaning.

I did get a kick out of one I had though, where I dreamt I was able to walk through walls, until I tried going through one and fell over. I woke up laughing from that one.


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posted 29 May 2006 10:30 AM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Personally, I think we get a series of more random images from the brain, and, for whatever reason, we construct fairly cohesive stories from them. That construction says something about what may be going on with the dreamer, or it may not.
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Boom Boom
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posted 29 May 2006 10:38 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the brain's memory function combins with the sleep/dream function to, indeed, put together random stories that may or may not make any sense. Happens to me, constantly. I get random stories in dreams that are often very vivid; wish I could translate some of my dreams to video images.
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posted 29 May 2006 01:30 PM      Profile for Noise     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I think they're just a bunch of random neural connections going on in our brains, devoid of ultimate meaning.

Dreams vary from person to person... Some dream much more vividly than others as well (Only a small percentage dream in colour). For myself, I get exceedingly entertaining and complex dream that are utterly pointless the second I wake up.

The random connections going on isn't exactly correct either. Nothing is random afterall. Leading theory that I've heard explains dreams as you brain reopening and repairing memories stored in protien strands (which is different from the Neurons that are involved in short term memory).

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posted 29 May 2006 05:20 PM      Profile for mayakovsky     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am a vivid dreamer and I hate it. I don't necessarily have 'prophetic' dreams ie: waking up and thinking I must tell someone about what I have dreamt. At the same time they are usually so dramatic I have to get up, walk around or read to get something else in my mind. Of course watching late night TV doesn't help but its all suspense and mysteries and I love them. Any dreams that have involved my life have been highly inconclusive. I did once dream a few nights in a row about people I have known at various stages in my life getting together, of course they all had nice things to say.


Boom Boom, I have to ask are you now or have you ever been a High Anglican?


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Boom Boom
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posted 29 May 2006 05:23 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mayakovsky:
Boom Boom, I have to ask are you now or have you ever been a High Anglican?

That's like asking: are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party?


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mayakovsky
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posted 29 May 2006 05:44 PM      Profile for mayakovsky     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Answer the question, why do you decline sir? We have it on good authority that the thurifer saw you genuflect when showing Mr. Clinton around the altar.
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posted 29 May 2006 07:28 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I decline to answer on the grounds of protection against self-incineration.
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posted 30 May 2006 10:12 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another intense dream - where I go back to the past and change things, for a better future.

eta: doing all the minute calculations make this an almost-endless dream!

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posted 30 May 2006 10:23 AM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Had a couple of anxiety dreams this morning as I tried to steal a few more minutes of sleep. Also, they say that only your senses of sight and hearing work in dreams, but I was just tucking into a damn good dinner of mashed potatoes with roast beef gravy when my alarm went off.

Here's a related thread, specifically on the topic of lucid dreaming:

but you know I know when it's a dream


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posted 30 May 2006 10:53 AM      Profile for slimpikins     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dreams are important, and they can be used to tell us a lot about ourselves if we are not afraid to take that close a look at our inner being. Dreams can reflect our highest, grandest vision, or our deepest, darkest moments of our souls, at least that's my opinion.

Also, I don't think that we should always act on our dreams. Having a dream about selling your house doesn't mean that you should wake up and call your realtor from bed. However, dreams are useful to give our conscious brain a kick in the right direction from time to time.


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Noise
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posted 30 May 2006 11:33 AM      Profile for Noise     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting thread there Yossarian... I know I am one who frequently realizes I am in dream while dreaming. When that occours, I find I can alter the dream to something more I'd like... If at very least I realize it's a dream that I cannot be hurt in. I've had a couple nightmares where I've realized it's a dream and woke myself up from the nightmare (which includes prying your eyelids open... It's an interesting experience)

The reason for it (atleast the one that I like the most), is the brain works on 2 seperate levels. A first instinctive response, followed by the real thought process. For an example, if you are asked a question, your first answer to it is answered by the instinctive portion of your brain. Your thoughts then take over and then you think it through... Your first instinctive thought is the 'instinct brain' kicking in. This is the 'gut feeling' or 'intuition' that we often get. It's why your first answer is often right, but you then rethink yourself afterwards.

I watched a study on fear recently that somewhat backs this claim up. A person with dehabilitating fear... Lets say a fear of mice... Has this instinctive brain take over. It puts you into a fight or flight response and preps your body for the fight or flight response (increased heart rate, clamy skin... all the signs of fear). For this person, the 'instinctive' brain is taking over when they see the mouse. For the rest of us, our instinctive brain passes this over and allows us to think the situation through instead. (I should try to find a link for this study as it'd make more sense without me paraphraising it ). Apparently theres monkeys that lack the connection to this 'instinctive brain' (as well as people) and they fear nothing. A normal monkey will see a snake and be afraid of it and back off... One without this instinctive brain will usually play with the snake. Pretty much all input is first run through this instinctive brain, and after it's gone through that check your thoughts are allowed to go over it instead.

Your dreams is the thought level 'turning off' and allowing the instinctive brain to run wild (The instinctive brain isn't linked to memory, which is why dreams are easily forgotten). For those of us that 'wake-up' and realize we're in a dream, the thought portion of your brain has returned to some degree of activity and you are now thinking through your dream instead of simply the instinctive side running it. You'll find when you wake-up in dream, you'll remember the dream much more vividly.

Mind you, this is all just theory and is probably full of holes.


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