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Arch Stanton
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posted 03 September 2002 03:36 AM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hamp died on Saturday at the age of 94. Together with pianist Teddy Wilson, Lionel Hampton broke the colour barrier in popular music by playing with the Benny Goodman quartet in 1936.

If you get a chance, listen to a recording of him playing vibes on "Avalon" in the Benny Goodman Carnegie Hall concert ot 1938.

Hey, this is pop culture to me.


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Mimichekele
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posted 05 September 2002 01:22 PM      Profile for Mimichekele   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Blues for Gertie" - Lionel Hampton and his All Star Big Band, Newport Jazz Festival 1967.

Excerpt:

Blues for Gertie

Aside from Lionel's playing, there's that walking bass line that just kills me every time.

Hey Stanton, half the Babblers have no clue what we're yapping about.

[ September 05, 2002: Message edited by: Mimichekele ]


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Arch Stanton
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posted 05 September 2002 01:55 PM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't go for that modern stuff.
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Mimichekele
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posted 05 September 2002 02:13 PM      Profile for Mimichekele   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Too radical for you eh?

You have to adapt, man. Like evolve with the times.


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posted 05 September 2002 02:13 PM      Profile for Mimichekele   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Was it Gene Krupa on drums on Avalon?
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Arch Stanton
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posted 05 September 2002 02:27 PM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, Krupa. And the Jess Stacey piano bit at the end of "Sing, Sing Sing" is sublime.

Lots of Ellington men played the Carnegie Hall concert, too. You must have a copy of the concert in your library.

I like some bop, even later stuff (Art Blakey, Lee Morgan) from the 50s, and Dexter Gordon and Stephane Grappelli records up into the 70s.

The jazz from the 20s and 30s is what I listen to the most, though.


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posted 05 September 2002 02:46 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just went down and found it -- we have a CD of that concert. I know so little about Hampton, but I love Goodman -- I play air-drums on Sing Sing Sing.

Maybe it's just a CD problem, but the sound on mine isn't very clear, I fear. I would like to feel those drums in my feet, and it just isn't working with this disc. Is the LP better?

I will play for Fang a Goodman concert tonight.


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Arch Stanton
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posted 05 September 2002 02:54 PM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've heard three different CD versions of the concert. The newest one (it has a purple cover and lots of little interviews and errata on the disc) has the worst sound quality. The pops and hisses are left in. Maybe to give the CD more of an "authentic" sound?

I have a cheapo Italian bargain bin CD copy that sounds fine, and the old Columbia CD sounds good as well.


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posted 05 September 2002 03:06 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I fear that mine is Columbia: Columbia Jazz Masterpieces, "digitally remastered directly from the original analog tapes." Well, I'll report back tomorrow, but in my memory, there is little depth.
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Arch Stanton
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posted 05 September 2002 03:09 PM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Blueish cover?

One problem with that recording is that it was originally made on an acetate tape that had been lying around in an attic for 12 years before being discovered. Maybe the quality of the original had deteriorated somewhat.

I don't mind that the quality of old recordings isn't up to modern standards. I listen to some old 78s whose grooves are so worn the records are shiny.

All that surface noise is just the sound of the passing of time.

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posted 05 September 2002 03:17 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, old LPs and 78s I love -- it isn't the surface noise that bothers me; it's the lack of texture or depth that many of our CDs have that disappoints.

I'm glad I didn't get rid of the old stereos, clunky dust-trapping contraptions though they are. Don't have a player for 78s just now, though, and we do have some old classics. Must remember to add that to the list.


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Arch Stanton
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posted 07 September 2002 03:08 AM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm guessing that you live in the Toronto area. If so, maybe you can check out the Canadian Antique Phonograph Society. They might be able to help you find something on which to play those 78s.

I've contacted them about old musical recordings myself, but since I'm out in the boonies, taking part in their meetings is impossible.

I would like to get my grubby paws on a gramophone though. A couple of years ago I was at a flea market in the Vendée at which there were TWO vendors with gramophones. Beautiful machines. I think the cheapest one was 5,000 Francs, though, so I didn't scoop one up.

I've got two or three sides of Bix Beiderbecke that I must hear on one of those old machines. Electronic reproduction will not do.


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