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skdadl
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posted 07 October 2004 02:03 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The great crime and mystery writers of the world are turning up in Toronto today until Sunday.

I simply adore Ian Rankin. *les pants les pants*

Tomorrow he is apparently interviewing Peter Robinson, who does the Inspector Banks series and always manages to drop in a Toronto reference or two along the way.

I can't go. Waaaaaaah.

Is anyone else going? This looks like so much fun.


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faith
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posted 07 October 2004 02:25 PM      Profile for faith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I love Ian Rankin. I've never been to Scotland but reading his books I feel as if he's opened a window and let me take an accurate peek at a country my family once lived in.
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posted 07 October 2004 02:28 PM      Profile for faith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I envy you the chance to meet these authors- will Minette Walters be there? ( another one of my favourites)
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posted 07 October 2004 02:49 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just heard Rankin being interviewed on Ontario Today on CBC 1 and he was a laugh riot!

So much so that Im going to buy one of his books tonite and try them. I so wanted to go to Boucheron to meet Lindsay Davis my fave detective writer but I couldnt justify the $200 to get in


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skdadl
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posted 07 October 2004 02:58 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
faith, you must go to Edinburgh sometime, then. If you know it through Rankin's novels, you will be surprised. It is such a beautiful city, so dramatic, so cheery and civilized at the same time.

But it is really very compact. Rankin brings it to life, for sure, but whenever I'm reading him, I'm thinking, All this stuff can happen in a city that size???

I heard the interview too, Bacchus. Wasn't he wonderful? Such a good guy, too: his story about Alexander McCall Smith, his neighbour, and author of another wonderful novel I haven't read yet, The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency, had me rolling about on the floor.


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Screaming Lord Byron
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posted 07 October 2004 02:59 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Edinburgh? Feh! It's no Glasgow.

(mother of all civic rivalries)


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posted 07 October 2004 03:03 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
(mother of all civic rivalries)

I thought that was Sodom and Gomorrah.


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skdadl
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posted 07 October 2004 03:03 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
PS: It costs two hundred bucks to get in???

See, that's the problem with popularity. These guys really are wonderful; most of them truly are great writers; but they also are the writers who sell, who have big audiences, who write to a huge market.

So most of their loving readers can't afford to get anywhere close.


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posted 07 October 2004 03:05 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Lord Byron:
Edinburgh? Feh! It's no Glasgow.

(mother of all civic rivalries)


Glasgow? Feh! It's nae Edinburgh.


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Screaming Lord Byron
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posted 07 October 2004 03:09 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:

Glasgow? Feh! It's nae Edinburgh.



OH MY GOD! It works both ways!


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Bacchus
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posted 07 October 2004 03:09 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think it was more than $200 but yeah around there. I just couldnt justify it, even to see Lindsay Davis

And that part about alexander smith had me rolling too "beep beep, its rankin, smith running to the computer"

LOL And I will be trying to buy his rebus book tonite (or go to the murder mystery bookstore on bayview this weekend)


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skdadl
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posted 07 October 2004 03:15 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bacchus, there are so many Rebuses in pb -- start with the early ones and work up; the new one will be in pb in a year. That's what I do.

And as for this:

quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Lord Byron:


OH MY GOD! It works both ways!


SLB, if I call you Laddie, will you call me Hen?


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'lance
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posted 07 October 2004 03:16 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
SLB, if I call you Laddie, will you call me Hen?

Careful, you two, or we'll be telling you to get a croft.


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Screaming Lord Byron
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posted 07 October 2004 03:17 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:
Bacchus, there are so many Rebuses in pb -- start with the early ones and work up; the new one will be in pb in a year. That's what I do.

And as for this:

SLB, if I call you Laddie, will you call me Hen?



Well, it's that or the dreaded 'doll'.


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skdadl
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posted 07 October 2004 03:21 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

Och, I miss them. Listening to Rankin, that accent, that pub-centred sense of humour ... They are so ... not English.

Don't you miss 'em, SLB?


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Bacchus
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posted 07 October 2004 03:22 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ahh I was (as so often happens he said modestly)

Its $235 for the conference but there are day passes available from &5-100$ depending on the day and events


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Screaming Lord Byron
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posted 07 October 2004 03:24 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:

Och, I miss them. Listening to Rankin, that accent, that pub-centred sense of humour ... They are so ... not English.

Don't you miss 'em, SLB?


I dunno. I have twenty-odd years of experience with them, so that's a lot of reserves to draw on. I suppose I miss the none-more-black sense of humour, but there are plenty of Canadians afflicted with that particular gift.


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faith
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posted 07 October 2004 04:25 PM      Profile for faith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ok I'll ask, who is Lindsay Davis?
After reading the link skdadl provided she sounds like an author whose style I would enjoy, but I have never heard of her before.
Skdadl it is my fantasy vacation , to take my girls and husband (whose family also originated in Scotland) to Scotland and Ireland and visit the places their ancestors came from in the 19th century, just so they could see and feel their connection to another time and place.

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posted 07 October 2004 04:45 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Linsey Davis writes excellent historical mysteries set in Rome when Vespasian was emperor [circa 70 AD]. Her characters are very engaging; Falco, a tough, cynical low class private informer [mushy inside]; his girlfriend Helena, an intelligent, independent senator's daughter; their numerous trouble-making relatives.

The books are quite humourous; and like Charles Dickens and Terry Pratchett, Davis comes up with all sorts of colourful characters; also lots of travelling all over the empire and outside of it.

Her website is Lindsey Davis and I wish I could go to the convention too. Have fun!


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posted 07 October 2004 04:52 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The latest trend is towards Historical murder mysteries set in various times in the past.

Im quite attached to the Roman ones of which David is my favourite (In fact I have a cat named Falco).

But there are other good ones like John Maddox Roberts, Steven Saylor, P Doherty, etc


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posted 07 October 2004 04:57 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
faith, for me just now, that's a fantasy too. And I've never been to Ireland at all, though I would love to. But Scotland is such a huge little place, if you see what I mean. Drive a few miles, and life changes drastically. Life, and the scenery. For a Canadian, it is such an education. Well, it was for moi, anyway.

The cities are grand (in their different ways, of course, hee hee SLB); and the countryside is so wild, in spite of so many layers of population through history. Some parts of the Highlands that were once heavily populated are now wilder than almost any place you can think of in Canada. It is lovely, and it can be sad.

If you go, and if you're driving up the central valley from Perth to Inverness, make time to turn off at the holy village of Dunkeld (turn at Birnam). Books could be written, and have been, in fact ...

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Screaming Lord Byron
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posted 07 October 2004 05:10 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I used to live in Birnam, right next to Beatrix Potter's house.

Technically, Dunkeld is a city.


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posted 07 October 2004 05:11 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Och, SLB, you are kidding.

Och, I always knew that I envied you, but now I envy you so much that ... (stop that thought, skdadl)


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posted 07 October 2004 05:13 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
PS: Isn't it technically a "royal borough"? Because it has a cathedral?

It was everybody's capital, though, for a long time. It was the Pictish capital.


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posted 07 October 2004 05:15 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No, here's a potted history.

I was born in Dundee (the Thunder Bay of Scotland)
was baptized in Dunkeld Cathedral (that's why it's a city - it has a Cathedral), lived in Birnam, back to Dundee, lived in mid-Argyll at Castle Sween (just across from Orwell's house on Jura), lived on Deeside (about twenty miles from Gladstone's house and ten miles from the place of Macbeth's demise, then lived in Glasgow, in the glorious West End.


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posted 07 October 2004 05:19 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
*skdadl rolls about floor in fits of envy*

Jura!

*skdadl chews carpet*

faith: Dunkeld is tiny, and it can't grow because it is set in a natural mountain amphitheatre, but it is true that having a cathedral makes you a "royal borough," or a city, technically.


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posted 07 October 2004 05:19 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dunkeld has a population of around 1000, which has been stable since about 1700.
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posted 07 October 2004 05:21 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
SLB: I hear that Dundee is having a renaissance.
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posted 07 October 2004 05:23 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:
SLB: I hear that Dundee is having a renaissance.

Apparently true, according to my brother who visits quite often. It'll take years to clean the dirt away (and I don't just mean Dundee United Football Club).


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posted 07 October 2004 06:36 PM      Profile for faith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think I would have to start in Aberdeen. The first Canadian matriarch was born in Aberdeen and came to Canada circa 1835-40.
Since it will probably always be out of my reach financially to take the whole family I can make up any itinerary I want for my fantasy trip.
It would really be nice to know why the family came over to Canada and where they originated. There are many family stories but I suspect like many others it was financial hardship.

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posted 07 October 2004 06:51 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My Irish ancestors came over around 1830, but I don't know why, specifically. If you haven't been looking, faith, there are plenty of genealogical websites, and also sites for many places in Britain, with lots of pictures.

There's that Undiscovered Scotland website somebody posted recently [was it you, skdadl?] More reasons to stay glued to the computer!


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posted 07 October 2004 07:19 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Aberdeen is a highly underrated city with some extraordinary architecture.
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posted 07 October 2004 11:07 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder if Anne Perry will be making an appearance?
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posted 07 October 2004 11:25 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
*grins at Mike* I was going to exclaim Anne Perry? The convicted murderer? but then I clicked on your link first *smiles*

Im wondering if she would be allowed to come, or did she get a pardon?

Edited to add

Shes not on the list of author attendees
List of Authors attending

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