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speechpoet
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posted 12 February 2004 09:56 AM      Profile for speechpoet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This new CBC TV show aired last night. From the blurb:
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This six-part series follows the adventures of a young woman who lands a job as special assistant to the Minister of Human Resources and Government Services in Ottawa. In her new job, Shannon Jennings (Amy Price-Francis) must chart her way through the world of hidden agendas, scrums and damage control-while trying to find some time for dating.

That doesn't really do justice to it or to Jennings' character, who is drawn with genuine dimension and complexity. This is the first political drama I've seen that tastes real (even if the dialogue slips occasionally into brief over-earnestness).

From the guy who brought us North of 60 and the Trudeau miniseries. Wednesdays at 8. If they maintain this level of quality, I hope it gets picked up.


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Sine Ziegler
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posted 12 February 2004 10:12 AM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I only caught the last 10 minutes but I didn't like it so far. I'll still give it a chance but the camera style annoys the HELL out of me. Why does it wobble and shift so much? As if I don't already have a headache at the end of a long day at work.

The main character is also wayyyy too neurotic for me - kind of like the "Friends" characters.

But like I said, I will still give it a chance.


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Michelle
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posted 12 February 2004 10:40 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hate that kind of camera work too. I'm prone to motion sickness, and I remember one time going to a movie where they did a lot of that kind of thing, jerking and shifting the camera all the time. I felt positively ill by the middle of the movie.
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Erstwhile
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posted 12 February 2004 10:58 AM      Profile for Erstwhile     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I watched a bit of it. I didn't like any of the characters and I didn't find the plot terribly compelling. There wasn't anything specifically wrong with it, I don't think - it just didn't resonate with me. At all.

Then again even The West Wing isn't really doing it for me anymore, so maybe I'm just too damn picky.


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speechpoet
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posted 12 February 2004 02:39 PM      Profile for speechpoet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
West Wing lost me this season, too. Suddenly, all that snappy dialogue started ringing false. The rat-a-tat-tat pace is still there -- but weighed down with leaden, on-the-nose cliches.

And whatever verisimilitude Aaron Sorkin brought to the show is gone. So much of it feels like there should be a big flashing caption at the bottom of the screen saying "THIS NEVER HAPPENS."

On a tangent, any nominations for the TV show or flick with the least accurate depiction of political life?


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Sharon
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posted 12 February 2004 03:24 PM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I watched part of Snakes and Ladders. I move in political circles and I found a lot of this didn't ring true. (Of course, I move in NDP circles. Maybe it would ring true in Liberal circles.) On the other hand, I've never moved in legal circles and I really like This is Wonderland -- and it seems to ring true to me.
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speechpoet
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posted 19 February 2004 07:00 PM      Profile for speechpoet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Caught the second episode last night. Maybe it was the constant running back and forth, warming bottles and administering burp-pats (all of which was taking place in my living room, not on-screen), but I found this one a lot harder to follow, and the resolution a lot less satisfying.

(Maybe the burp-pats would have worked better as part of the storyline. But I Digress.)

One thing I did like was seeing political staff having money problems... to the point where staffers were slipping hors d'oeuvres into their purses at receptions, so they'd have something to eat at supper time.


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Dr. Mr. Ben
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posted 19 February 2004 07:07 PM      Profile for Dr. Mr. Ben   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by speechpoet:
West Wing lost me this season, too.
West Wing lost me when they had Bartlet order someone's assassination. It ruined the escapism of it for me.

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Mandos
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posted 19 February 2004 07:10 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
West Wing lost me when they made hiding MS the Bill Clinton moment of Bartlett. Like, they couldn't have a real scandal or something.

I saw half of S&L last night. It was OK, I guess, but not as entertaining as This Is Wonderland. I sympathize with the Wonderland characters a lot more, and it's fun trying to figure out who the Mad Hatter is. (The Dormouse is obvious.)

(edited to ensure Alice in Wonderland consistency)

[ 19 February 2004: Message edited by: Mandos ]


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Sine Ziegler
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posted 19 February 2004 09:53 PM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ooooh I LOVE This is Wonderland! I wasn't too sure about it at first but it caught my attention immediately and it got my mind racing about people and their circumstances.

I missed S&L last night ( was at the movie MONSTER instead which was incredible by the way ) but I was wondering what real political staffers thought about the show so far. It would be insteresting to hear more about your perspective Sharon.

I am really impressed with CBC lately. Most of the new shows are very entertaining.


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Jo Jo
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posted 19 February 2004 11:13 PM      Profile for Jo Jo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I really like Snakes and Ladders and am growing a little more fond of This is Wonderland.

I worked in the legal world for 20 years and find This is Wonderland to be pretty fantasmic. Not normal old boring legal wranglings. In reality observing court proceedings is like watching paint dry. And tv usually wants to focus on the criminal side of the legal world and ignore the rest.

I also worked for an MLA for a number of years and I think that S&L has some very true to life moments - actually lots of them - and I find myself laughing out loud a bunch as I relate to what is going on.

So S&L = 8, TIW = 4


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posted 19 February 2004 11:22 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I actually visit courtrooms in other cities just to watch the proceedings, sometimes. Not even criminal ones. I sat for a little while and watched the appeals courts at Osgoode Hall, for instance. I found it entertaining in a perverse sort of way. IANAL, too.

I'm quite sure that TIW is a rather exaggerated fantasy, like lawyer shows in general and Canadian shows in particular. It's "wonderland" after all, a clue. But what I do find "rings true" to this non-lawyer is the griminess and stress of it, and triviality of some of the problems they deal with. Not high-profile murder cases, but petty thefts and minor assaults. Lots of homeless people. That seems to me more like what the justice system actually does. Other shows like The Practice (haven't watched it in a while) do constant dramatic murder cases, and after a while, well...

What seems *not* realistic about it is the quirkiness of the characters and the triteness. But that's OK. It's TV.


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Sine Ziegler
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posted 19 February 2004 11:35 PM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You know that male lawyer on TIW who was about ot have a nervous breakdown on the last episode where he was representing that man who threw a lamp at his wife? What is wrong with him? I didn't get his character. Can somebody explain what they thought?
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