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Jared
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posted 03 July 2001 04:17 PM      Profile for Jared     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't really think this will provoke much debate, but anybody who's seen MuchMusic within the past five years must read this hilarious, out-of-the-park article.
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Michelle
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posted 03 July 2001 05:37 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Couldn't have said it better myself! Really, I can't think of anything to say about the subject that wasn't already said in the article.
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Debra
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posted 03 July 2001 06:38 PM      Profile for Debra   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One thing I would like to take excetion with is the comment that misogyny is commom place among those with low income and/or limited education. Bullsh**!!

Look at the examples of music industry people, athletes, politicians and others none of these people are wondering how they will put dinner on the table and most of them are fairly well educated.

Considering that most of us on these boards are fighting to have the rights and dignity of all people respected overlooking that piece of the puzzle speaks volumes.


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Trisha
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posted 04 July 2001 03:43 AM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It appears to me that misogyny is more prevelant in the newly wealthy sports and rock stars than any low-income group, except maybe the hip-hoppers who are still trying to buy "respect" with violence. I know there are some cases where economic frustration leads to abuse, but for displaying it in public, the first groups mentioned take the cake.
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Michelle
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posted 04 July 2001 05:24 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually, he didn't say anything about people with low incomes. He said the old, the under-educated, and the too-trendy-to-think-for-themselves. And he didn't say that everyone in those categories thinks that way - he said that those who think that way are usually in those categories, which is different.

But of course I disagree with that statement too. I've met well-educated, younger men (and even a few women) who have some pretty screwy ideas about women. I seem to remember thinking that when I read the article the first time, but by the time I wrote my post of unqualified approval, a few choice sentences had made me laugh so hard that I forgot that part.

My favorite part of the article:

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I surmise that Ricky is the victim of a post-modern lobotomy of sorts, the kind where the parts of your brain that balance good taste with anti-PC skepticism while remaining knowledge of the socio-cultural revolutions of the past 30 years is completely removed.

A post-modern lobotomy! I have a TA from last year who will die laughing when I tell her that. She wasn't much of a fan of post-modernist theory.


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lisa
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posted 04 July 2001 08:03 PM      Profile for lisa     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
the article was actually written by a woman... does that change anyone's opinion?

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Actually, he didn't say anything about people with low incomes. He said the old, the under-educated, and the too-trendy-to-think-for-themselves. And he didn't say that everyone in those categories thinks that way - he said that those who think that way are usually in those categories, which is different.
But of course I disagree with that statement too. I've met well-educated, younger men (and even a few women) who have some pretty screwy ideas about women.

[ July 04, 2001: Message edited by: lisa ]


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Michelle
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posted 04 July 2001 11:29 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oops. It had been a few days since I read the whole thing, so I didn't recheck the author's name. How stupid of me to assume it was a man. I may have just made myself ineligible to take any further women's studies courses!
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tiger999
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posted 10 July 2001 09:09 PM      Profile for tiger999     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The lower on the totem pole you are, the more you are forced to think in categories just to survive (Hmm, that is a "friend" and that is a "boss").


But good people can always trancend their social class - else I'd be a socialist not an anarchist. The dumb ones have to stay socialists and can never rise to anarchy.


Never confuse misogyny with misanthropy either - some people just hate everyone.


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DrConway
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posted 10 July 2001 11:59 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Speaking of "boss", did you all know that it's derived from the Dutch "baas", which literally means "master"?

Food for thought.


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