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josh
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posted 03 February 2003 05:38 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=113872
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 03 February 2003 07:25 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not to make light of the apparent homicide, but I always thought that Spector should have been arrested for his production on "Let It Be".
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'lance
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posted 03 February 2003 07:38 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree Scott, which is why I was surprised to read the other day that John Lennon actually liked Spector's work on "The Long and Winding Road." Thought it had made the best of mediocre material. It was McCartney -- of all people -- who thought it sounded too sugary and schmalzy.

Meanwhile, I wonder what happened in this homicide. The story mentions his pulling a gun on the Ramones, and I remember reading Ronnie Spector's reports that he'd abused her. Bit of a whack-job, apparently, that fellow.


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josh
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posted 03 February 2003 09:16 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Spector has done enough drugs in his life to push anyone over the line. I remember how Lennon fought with him because Spector stole tapes of the "Rock and Roll" session, and later claimed to have the watergate tapes. Spector also had a cameo at the beginning of Easy Rider. Appropriately, he was sniffing cocaine.

While he did butcher the Let it Be album, his 60s "wall of sound" is a genre all its own. I especially love his Christmas album.


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josh
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posted 21 November 2003 10:45 AM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Charged with murder:

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/ap20031121_374.html


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Pogo
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posted 21 November 2003 05:01 PM      Profile for Pogo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
He's just building a resume so he can branch out into gangster rap.
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posted 22 November 2003 04:05 AM      Profile for beluga2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
At a certain point Phil approached me with a bottle of Manischevitz kosher red wine in one hand and a 45 in the other, put his arm around my shoulder and shoved a revolver into my neck and said, 'Leonard, I love you.' I said, 'I hope you do, Phil.'

-- Leonard Cohen, recalling the Spector-produced sessions for his album Death of a Ladies' Man. (Another album sunk by Phil's over-the-top production.)


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josh
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posted 27 September 2007 04:33 AM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hard to believe, but jury came by with a hung verdict. 10-2 for conviction. I imagine that the problem was that the jury was presented with the choice of second-degree murder or acquittal. No manslaughter charge. Even so, the evidence was so overwhelming that Spector put the gun in the victim's mouth, and the defense (she decided to kill herself after meeting Spector for the first time that night) so perposterous, that the verdict is hard to believe.

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District attorney's spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons said her office was "disappointed" by the outcome but would "begin immediately to prepare for a retrial." Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Larry Paul Fidler asked Spector and the attorneys to return to court for a pretrial hearing Oct. 3 to determine the next step in the case.

Spector would have faced a minimum of 18 years in prison if convicted of second-degree murder, the only charge he faced. Prosecutors now have the option of pursuing lesser charges of manslaughter, seeking a murder conviction once again or negotiating a plea agreement with Spector.

The defense team of seven attorneys argued during the trial -- which began in April -- that Clarkson shot herself, either in a suicide or by accident. The defense contended that she had been despondent over a failed acting career and financial problems, and was under the influence of alcohol and painkillers.

All the jurors who spoke to reporters cited the decision by prosecutors to forgo a "psychological autopsy" of Clarkson as a factor for the two who voted not guilty. They believed the actress' death was a possible suicide, the jurors said.



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DMcLeod
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posted 27 September 2007 06:32 AM      Profile for DMcLeod     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Was evidence presented that Spector fired the gun? I don't know the details, but perhaps the two jurors had a reasonable doubt?

Isn't that the purpose of jurys?


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josh
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posted 27 September 2007 06:39 AM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
He was alone with her when the shooting occurred, and when he went out of the mansion he told his driver that he thought he shot someone. Plus, there was testimony that he had put guns in women's mouths or at their heads previously. Given this evidence, there should have been no reasonable doubt that he did the shooting.
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posted 27 September 2007 01:24 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The foreman, Enriquez said, was persuaded by forensic evidence presented by defense experts, who said Spector did not have enough blood on him to have been the shooter. The defense's experts also testified that gunshots in the mouth are almost always suicides.
Except when people like to play by putting a gun in other people's mouths....

I'm reminded of the Ramone's documentary, where they fled Spector's house when he started playing with guns.

I would probably have voted to acquit on a second degree murder charge, but almost certainly to convict on a charge of manslaughter.


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