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Performance Anxiety
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posted 11 May 2004 08:46 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
It looks like the I.F. in Montreal is growing quickly. There are already international acts starting to sign up for this critical arts fest, plus local Canadian favourites too. Keep an eye on this upstart festival - it is sure to delight the activist:

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12-Hour Play

Travesty Theatre Horror Productions (Montreal, Quebec)

Two plawyrights write lines on the spot for actors who can only speak when given dialogue. Come and go as you please and watch the story progress over half a day. Please contact [email protected] to get involved.


The Arab

A play about living and surviving in a chaotic world. If you don’t see this play, the terrorists have already won. Written by Michel Faure. Adapted and directed by Liz Faure.


Cabaret Makeup Workshop

A course taught by Velma Candyass of the Dead Doll Dancers dealing with the ins and outs of stage makeup with a special emphasis on burlesque and tacky horror.


Car Stories
Optative Theatrical Laboratories (Montreal, Quebec)

Three spectators at a time are guided through the back alleys and parking lots of Montreal’s Urban Wonderland, to witness performance in real parked cars. For the fourth summer in a row, the only show ever to be kicked out of a Fringe (tm) Festival is back on the road. (CLICK FOR MORE)

Car Stories is currently seeking cars, stroies and people. Please contact Artistic Facilitator Donovan King ([email protected]) to get involved.


Dead Dolls Capitalism Cabaret
Travesty Theatre Horror Productions (Montreal, Quebec)

With all the frolicking fun of a free-market economy, sweatshop humor, perverted prostitution, holy telemarketing, the politics of money and, of course, the world-famous Dead Doll Dancers, this is one golden business opportunity that’s sure to pay off. You can even throw money at our special guests: Karl Marx, George W. Bush and Ben Mulroney. AND, the audience member who ends up with the most cash at the end of the night wins a FABULOUS PRIZE!!!

The DDC is currently seeking all types of performers. Please contact [email protected] to get involved.


Guichet

The Blacklist Comittee for Unsafe Theatre

A play by Matt Jones set about and around the center of modern society - the guichet machine.


infringement Awards and Party

An awards show unlike any other. The audience is invited to vote on a number of interesting categories. Featuring live theatre, live music and hosted by Critic A and Critic B of The Indie Theatre Times and Review!


infringement Parade

A moving piece of theatre and an act of resistance all rolled into one. This will take place on the last day of the festival. All are welcome. Please contact [email protected] to get involved.


Marionettes, morts-vivants et autres massacres

Toutous d’outre tombe (Montreal, Quebec)


A free hardcore puppet show with fire, gore and violence. The way it was meant to be.


Metro Party

A spontaneous theatrical action that will transform one metro car into a celebration of freedom.


Mysteries of Montreal:
A Hidden History of Canada

David Fennario (Montreal, Quebec)

An ongoing one-man show from acclaimed Montreal playwright and activist David Fennario.


Peter Green and Friends

Peter Green (Montreal, Quebec)

Montreal-born singer-songwriter-composer, spoken-word artisit, published publisher and performance-poet Peter Green will be performing his latest and most popular new mind-expanding and enjoyed songs, stories and poems. (FOR MORE INFO CLICK HERE) or to become one of Peter Green’s friends and play in the show, please contact [email protected]


Poetry and Politics

A showcase of activist and politically minded spoken-word artists hosted by Art Armstrong.


Waiting for Martin
Lo-Tekk Productions

A screening of a film directed and produced by Magnus Isaacson and Sophia Southam and starring David Bernans, who will also offer a live musical performance of protest.

“While using humour and derision, the film forces you to reflect on the meaning of democracy. Spiced up with very funny animated scenes by Sophia Southam, inspired by 1920’s dadaism, Waiting For Martin will have you smiling and mad as hell.” (Vanessa Quintal, VOIR) (CLICK HERE FOR MORE)


We’ve Come Undone
Keyhan Irani (New York, NY)

A one-woman multimedia show from New York City artivist and Boal practitionner Keyhan Irani inspired by stories from the Arab American, Muslim and South East Asian communities and dealing with issues such as US immigration policies post 9/11. (CLICK FOR MORE)


Yoga on the Mountain

A yoga course done the way it should be, out in the nature of Mount Royal. taught by Thalia Vaillancourt of Yoga Classique (CLICK HERE FOR MORE)

MUCH MORE TO COME...


According to the site:

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The Infringement Festival is an interdisciplinary festival open to all critical artists.


Celebrating Freedom of Expression and designed as a real arts democracy, this festival is a critical response to the oppressive neoliberal worldview and all its Billboard Trucks, Televisions, flyers, advertisements, jingles, made-for-TV Wars; and the depoliticisation of people through this diversionary Spectacle.


More specifically it is a critical response to the now-trademarked and corporatized St. Ambroise Fringe (tm) Festival.


The infringement welcomes a variety of performances and cultural resistance: theatre groups, performers, street activism, political theatre, musicians, radical performance, marginalized arts, disadvantaged groups, and anyone wishing to artistically infringe on the monoculture that creeps into every corner of our lives. Raging grannies. Culture-Jammers. Entartistes. Performance activists. Guerrilla Screenings. Speaker's Corners. Interventions. Happenings. Do-It-Yourself. Reclaim the Culture!


Please spread the word - the bigger the infringement the greater the effect. Dubbed as the "LINUX of theatre", this festival offers a venue for the activist to express themselves dramatically.


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I'm happy to see that David Fennario is well enough to perform again. His Hidden History is quite good, although a lot of it is cribbed from his one-man show Banana Boots. I would like it even better if he did a tour of Verdun and the Point and talked about the struggles won and lost there in his lifetime, rather than railing against the railway barons of the 19th century.

I have had the pleasure of sitting next to Velma Candyass at many a Montreal Alouettes game. Sadly, I won't be in town for the make-up workshop.

[ 11 May 2004: Message edited by: weakling willy ]


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posted 12 May 2004 12:07 AM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
Yes, David was just in Toronto several days for the Marxism conference. He is definitely doing better, but is still restricted to a wheelchair, and gets fatigued often. Still, we are all hoping he's going to get through this thing. His (paraphrased) thoughts on the Fringe: "You know we've reached a low point in theatre history when even the fringe is trademarked".

There's a lot of other acts pending, including several from Boston & NYC, plus possibly some Torontonians. There's everything from Queer performances to activist screenings to possibly a big culture-jam against the WTO, who are rumoured to be meeting in Montreal at the start of the festival. Anyone have any info on this?


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posted 18 May 2004 01:55 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
The Gazette has given some ink to the topic at hand:

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Now in its 14th year, the Montreal Fringe has grown too mainstream for some local theatre activists.

Donovan King's perennially defiant Optative Theatrical Laboratories promises to return with a parking-lot worth of new Car Stories as part of the inaugural Infringement Festival, that will also feature David Fennario's Mysteries of Montreal (A Hidden Story of Canada) and a reprise of Travesty Theatre's Dead Dolls Capitalism Cabaret. The anti-fest also runs June 10-20 and organizers are still recruiting artists, theatre groups and volunteer organizers. Call (514) 273-6929, or www.infringementfestival.com



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Performance Anxiety, I'd like to apologize for having made fun of you in the past. Sincerely. Threads like this are a reliable sign of spring.
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posted 18 May 2004 09:47 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
No worries Lance! There's nothing wrong with a little bit of teasing, especially if done in good humour. The spring certainly is here. Enjoy it, because it's going to heat up real soon...
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... then again, perhaps I'm too soft-hearted this spring. It can be hard to maintain one's good humour when you want to turn every thread into a discussion of the Montreal Fringe Festival. You can still be a Pain in the Ass, PA.
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Performance Anxiety
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posted 20 May 2004 12:01 AM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
I prefer "pernennial dissent", but I guess it's close enough. Just make sure it's not your ass that has the pain - usually we reserve that for corporate-hooligans and other jack-of-two-wits.



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Here's an update. This email was sent to Amy Barratt, who has a history of upsetting critical artists by refusing to report on important theatrical events. It seems that the winds of change may be blowing:

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Subject: infringement Info


Amy,

Our festival's Minister of Culture Jamming informed me that you wanted to know more about the infringement Festival (who/what/where/when, etc.)

As you probably already know, we're featuring Mysteries of Montreal (A Hidden History of Canada) by David Fennario, Car Stories from Optative Theatrical Laboratories and Travesty Theatre's Dead Dolls Capitalism Cabaret.

We've recently added Keyhan Irani's one-woman multimedia show We've Come Undone (from NYC) S. Bear Bergman (from Boston) and his show You'll Never Piss in this Town Again, a 12-hour play where a new playwright arrives every two hours to write lines for two actors who can only speak when given dialogue, The Blacklist committee for Unsafe Theatre's Guichet by Matt Jones plus film screenings of Waiting for Martin featurnig a live performance by David Bernans and The Legend of Jackie Robinson from Tom Fennario.

There will also be spoken-word, music, workshops, beer, you name it. Plus there's a bunch of not-yet-confirmed local and international shows that will be announced soon. Our website will be updated shortly (www.infringementfestival.com/eng/groups.html) with our new additions (some of them are up already).

We've already confirmed Zeke's Gallery, les Artistes du Toc Toc and Bar Biftek (for Car Stories) as venues and Gary St-Laurent has almost confirmed two other venues and our infringement Central

We are still looking for new acts and venues. The scedule will be made on May 31st and posted on our site shortly thereafter, which should give people enough time to plot their own infringement route before the festival which runs June 10th-20th.

With this festival, we offer no "registration fee" no conflict-of-interest sponsorships, no waiting list and no censorship whatsoever.

Things seem to be shaping up nicely. I will be sure to keep you up to date. Also, please feel free to call me (514) 273-6929 or send me an e-mail ([email protected]) if you have any questions.

Thank-you for your interest in the infringement Festival!

Sincerely,
Jason C. McLean
Chaos Organizer

The infringement Festival
June 10th-20th le 10 au 20 juin
www.infringementfestival.com


It is always nice to see the media reconsider its position, especially in regards to activist artistry.


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posted 27 May 2004 12:30 AM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
New additions:

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You’ll Never Piss in This Town Again

S. Bear Bergman (Boston, MA)


This intimate, hilarious, high-impact theater experience will give you a
fifteen minute, front-row experience in the life of a gender freak - which
is probably all you can stand. Free for transgendered and transsexual folks
- you've paid dearly enough in the bathroom already, eh?


S. Bear Bergman is an award-winning queer and trans writer, theater artist,
pornographer and poet, featured at the National Gay and Lesbian Theater
Festival (US), the National Transgender Theater Festival (US), your better
spoken word occasions and colleges and universities all over the US. "You'll
Never Piss In This Town Again" is a brand new, special engagement show
created especially for the Infringement Festival, to which Bear is just
tickled to have been invited.

The Bodacious Bushes

Alexis Sottile (New York, NY)


An absurdist speech-like rhetoric-fest featuring a third cousin of George W. Bush who is brought in at the last minute to give one of his speeches.


The Legend of Jackie Robinson

A screening of a film about a Pointe-St-Charles legend updated and directed by Tom Fennario.



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posted 27 May 2004 05:43 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
Some ink from the jilted theatre critic, the Montreal Mirror's Amy Barratt can be found HERE:

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Running concurrently with the Fringe for the first time this year is the infringement festival. Created by Optative Theatre Laboratories - a company whose sordid history with the Fringe I am not going to get into - and their partners in crime at Travesty Theatre, this is shaping up to be a real event, not just another rehashing of the so-so-to-begin-with Car Stories. Although there is no word yet on where much of it is happening, the organizers promise theatre, performance art, cabaret, poetry, film and, especially, "whatnot," and can boast a few big names including David Fennario - a renowned shit-disturber in his own right - performing his one-man show Mysteries of Montreal.

Here's the response from the theatricians:

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Hi Amy,

Thanks for the ink on the I.F., which is growing and growing. See here:

http://www.infringementfestival.com/eng/groups.html

There are quite a few international acts signing up, including S. Bear Bergman from Boston, an award-winning queer and trans writer and performance activist. He has written a show specifically for the I.F. to be set in a real bathroom with lots of urinal stalls.

On another note, I just wanted to say that your description of Car Stories as "so-so to begin with" is questionable, especially given that a) you've never seen it, b) the show is never the same twice, and c) it was nominated for the Siminovitch Award in Playwrighting, d) it was awarded $20,000 by the Canada Council's Inter-Arts Board, and e) it has never had a bad review, including on the BUZZ of the beer tent when it was part of the FringeTM. I am asking you to overcome any personal animosity towards us to see the show for what it really is - a grassroots, community-based arts democracy. Your comments are hurtful towards our project, and insulting to our players (many of them disadvantaged - youth, refugees, queers, homeless, first nations, etc.) Please get the facts straight before making these sorts of comments in public again. We are not aiming for a polished Centaur-style production, so please do not evaulate us in your standard "Regional-Theatre-is-best" paradigm.

As for the "sordid history" between us & the FringeTM, we find it unfortunate that you don't want to delve into it. We are still waiting for our ticket sales from Car Stories '01, and artists paying the exhorbitant fees to be associated with the trademark really should know that the festival does not always pay the artists their rightful money. These struggling artists would benefit by a caveat emptor-style warning from the media, plus it might help the festival clean up its act if its corrupt practices are put in the spotlight.

Like it or not, we are cleaning up the Fringe. The real question in my mind is this: when theatre historians review the documents in the years to come, how will we all be perceived in the meta-script?

Hope to see you at Car Stories & the infringement this year!



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posted 30 May 2004 05:06 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
More shows added:

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Encounters

Caprese Elliot (Montreal, Quebec)

A show that illustrates how human misunderstandings are based in subtleties through quick rants and skits about primarily female protagonists struggling with the residues of post-teenage angst and their difficulties communicating in and around love. The pieces will be kept short for often the best things in life are so.


Naughty Soxxx

Bastard Amber Productions (Montreal, Quebec)

A screening of a pornographic film starring...wait for it...sock puppets!!!


StreetEaters Poetry and Spoken-Word Show

A group of local poets and spoken-word artists perform in a show being put together by Paula Belina of StreetEaters


Sweet Pie

Subtexture Brown Productions (Montreal, Quebec)

Two short puppet plays for kids and adults alike: A capitalist cannibal squares off against our awkward heroes in the biggest bakeoff of the year! AND An industrial fairytale of a girl and a bird caught under the wheels of civilization!



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posted 03 June 2004 01:02 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
More Ink has appeared, this time in the HOUR:

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The best of times, the worst of times
Jodi Essery

The Fringe and beyond

When it comes to summer, them there theatre waters are murky. After being spoiled this past week by transcendent works like the Hungarian import W - Workers' Circus, and bidding adieu to the structure of the subscriber season, the average theatregoer is thrust into the no-holds-barred, all-bets-off carnival that is summer in the city. This year, even the Fringe has a fringe, and whatever your tastes, you're likely to get them served with a musical number or two.
The Fringe's biggest selling point is that you never really know what you're going to get, and despite the built-in odds that there'll be some stinkers, the marathon fest (June 10-20) is addictive in its promise that the next magical experience may be waiting just down the street. Give yourself a head start and check out the Fringe preview Monday night (June 6) at Café Campus, where performers will provide a bite-size sample of what's coming up.

While Fringe started in Edinburgh as a response to a more stringently regulated theatre festival, in North America the circuit has sprung fully formed from the thigh of its European cousin. It takes all the unabashed anti-establishment enthusiasm from the original, but it's not really on the edge of anything else. That, in the eyes of Travesty Theatre and Optative Theatre Laboratories, makes it the establishment. Speaking out against what they see as the corporatization of Fringe, the Infringement Festival (also June 10-20, natch) promises even less rules and a more activist approach.



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ps: for some background on what Montreal media has said about this type of critical and experimental theatre work, see HERE. The show mentioned is considered one of the predecessors of the festival, and it is fairly obvious that the media had a major role in hampering the artists' work. The question many ask is this: "Is this scandal going to come back and bite them in the ass?"


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posted 07 June 2004 02:09 AM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
More:

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Sweet Pie & The Tree-Top Observatory

Subtexture Brown Productions (Montreal, Quebec)

Two short puppet plays for kids and adults alike: A capitalist cannibal squares off against our awkward heroes in the biggest bakeoff of the year! AND An industrial fairytale of a girl and a bird caught under the wheels of civilization!


Up Against Tha Wall
Caprese Elliot (Montreal, Quebec)

A blend of subtle dance interpretation and spoken word. The pieces are kept short for often the best things in life are so.


Primordial Daze

A spoken-word show dealing with the evolution of all things.


Scream Queen de Montreal
Isabelle Stephen (Montreal, Quebec)

A horror movie actress humoristically tells the story of her career. (CLICK HERE FOR MORE)


Pierre, Who Didn’t Care
Lorin Young (Montreal, Quebec)

A performance of a play by Maurice Sendak followed by a political rendition about Bush by Lorin Young.

NDP Fundraiser for Daniel Quinn

Featuring the music of Out of Angst, E.W.E., Soma, Clover and Ill-Matic-Styles.

Cactus

Epic Worlds Productions (Australia)

A tourning show with Jonno Katz directed by Mark Chavez. (CLICK FOR MORE)


Chastity

Chastity (Montreal, Quebec)

A burlesque performance in the style of Betty Page (CLICK HERE FOR MORE)


The House of Plenty Presents Its First-Ever Art Exhibit
House of Plenty (Montreal, Quebec)

Featuring original music by up-and-coming artist, the “Look, I can do it, too” Crafts Table and a free glass of wine upon entry while supplies last.


Wow! Even the NDP is getting in on the act! Good luck to Dan Quinn in the election!!!!


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PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD - FWD & RE-POST

The infringement festival is holding a PRESS CONFERENCE at 2:30pm, Tuesday June 8, at Bar Bifteck (3702 St. Laurent) to discuss the upcoming critical arts fest. Already there are over 25 acts:

http://www.infringementfestival.com/eng/groups.html

Please consider this your invitation to infringe.

For more details contact Jason McLean:

(514) 273-6929

[email protected]


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The press conference was a huge success, with Fennario, King, McLean, Rockbrand, and St. Laurent all in attendance to explain the festival to the corporate media and others. The schedule was also announced:

http://www.infringementfestival.com/sked.html

The critical arts fest kicks off Thursday at 5pm at the Miami Bar in Montreal (3831 St. Laurent). If you are in the BIG SKY, you are most welcome to check it out! You have an invitation to infringe!!!


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posted 10 June 2004 12:25 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
Today, Thursday June 10th marks the start of the first annual infringement! Already there's more ink in the Gazette, with a National Post article coming soon. Here's what the theatre critic has to say:

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From a total attendance of 8,500 in 1991 to nearly 40,000 ticket-buying spectators last year, the Montreal Fringe Festival has certainly grown in size, if not artistic stature.

As the 14th edition of the annual "school's out for the summer" rite opens tonight with a street blowout at Fringe Central (St. Laurent Blvd. and Rachel St.), the event's party-animal policy remains the same - "no artistic direction, no minimum standards and no limits."

[...]

This year's preview, held at the Cafe Campus last week, was once again an aggressive and often tedious reminder getting drunk and rowdy is a lot of what this festival "of independent theatre, dance and music" is about.

But don't blame the organizers of what is now a $300,000 production, or their legion of volunteer helpers, for making the Fringe brand of show-biz democracy look like tipsy juvenilia. The organizers' main job is making sure all shows start on time. (And they do.)


As for columnist Bill Brownstein, he wrote a feature too, but I am having a hard time accessing it online at the moment due to "user-fees". I'll try and dig it up.


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It's HERE:

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And beyond ...

BILL BROWNSTEIN
The Gazette

June 10, 2004

There are those who feel the Fringe Festival is too edgy. Donovan King would not be among them. So King and some like-minded thesps have started the Infringement Festival, which kicks off today and runs until June 20 - the same dates, not so coincidentally, as the Fringe fest.

There are 28 acts and counting booked for the Infringement fest at 11 venues, mostly around the Main, and thus close to, not so coincidentally, many Fringe venues. Among the plays are King's Car Stories, heaved from the Fringe three years ago; The Bodacious Bushes, featuring a third cousin of Dubya; and You'll Never Piss in
This Town Again by transgendered Bostonian S. Bear Bergman.

But what will give the Infringement instant credibility is the presence of outspoken playwright David Fennario, who will perform his
Mysteries of Montreal.

What sets Infringement apart from Fringe is that it charges no administration fee to participating artists. The performers, however, can charge audiences what they want (spare change to $10) and keep all profits. King, the fest's artistic facilitator, pledges not to discriminate against any artist, but hopes his event will have an
activist slant.

"Our purpose is not to break the Fringe but simply to create more opportunity for other artists," he said.

Fennario is lending much support to the Infringement cause. "The main purpose is to create a venue for other activist artists, not just for ourselves," he said. "Too many performers today might look like Bertolt Brecht but think like Donald Trump," Fennario cracked. "My advice is that if you want to be original today, just keep your clothes on."

That might be easier said than done at the Infringement. Not to suggest some of the shows don't pack a social wallop, but they do contain mucho nudity.

Take the lovely and talented Chastity, who will be peeling in her homage to the great burlesque dancers of yore. Chastity's social message: "opening minds" to the beauty of sex.

The lovely and talented Velma Candyass of the Dead Dolls Capitalism Cabaret will shed clothing and take shots at capitalism. "Burlesque is much more than stripping. It's also sketch comedy," cooed Candyass. "And we will deliver on both fronts."

Joy Nyveen will be in the front seat - of Car Stories. "We'll keep our clothes on, for the most part, but our bit about two uninhibited women may get quite racy."

Eric Squire will keep his pants on. His Forum Theatre Workshop, an offshoot of the Theatre of the Oppressed, is an interactive piece exploring social reality and finding solutions.

But perhaps Fennario best summed up the ties that bond the eclectic Infringement players: "Sometimes you may have to shake hands with the devil, but you don't have to kiss his ass."

The Infringement Festival kicks off today at 5 p.m. with a party at Miami, 3831 St. Laurent Blvd. For more about the festival go to
www.infringementfestival.com or call (514) 273-6929.


Stay tuned - infringement details will be posted here!!!!!!!!


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No minimum standards? Seriously though, now the infringement does sound like something worth checking out, and not just Donovan being peevish about a poor review. I think that is why a lot of us have been annoyed by the Optative posts - there is not one of us working in the arts or related fields who hasn't received a poor review, a rejection slip or the equivalent. There is no point in going on about it for years.

A more serious social question, however. Is it all in English, or is that just because you picked out English-language productions for discussion on this English-language talk board?


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why don't you buy advertising on rabble, PA?
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The festival is multi-lingual. While there are a lot of shows in English, many are bilingual, and some exculsively in French (eg: les marionettes morts vivants). Certainly the festival is open to all people and languages - even mimes who do not speak can perform!

The best way to attract more francophone acts is to continue spreading the word (en francais et en anglais!).

lagatta, if you want to look at the French on the site (to see if it is up to scratch), I am sure the web organizer Jason McLean would appreciate it.

Willowdale, why don't you just send an invoice to the festival, which has a budget of $0.00, and they can shake down the starving artists to pay your "advertising fee". While you're at it, why not bill all the other activists for discussing what they are doing too?


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Because all the other activists don't advertise the same event and the same group over and over in unrelated threads.
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quote:
Originally posted by Performance Anxiety:
Willowdale, why don't you just send an invoice to the festival, which has a budget of $0.00, and they can shake down the starving artists to pay your "advertising fee".

PA, do you support this site financially?


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When I say "invitation to infringe" I am not talking about people ganging up to infringe on a group of artists. I am talking about infringing on monoculture.

So please don't infringe on the artists with corporate dollars-and-cents figures (monoculture) about why you feel these artists, who are doing a great service to society for very little, should be paying "advertising" costs to discuss the critical arts fest on this board.


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Then would they be amenable to an advertising swap? Perhaps unfurl a big "rabble.ca" banner after the performance? After all, it's beyond argument that rabble and babble provide a very valuable service too, and not just for a week or two each year, but all year 'round. No monoculture, no filthy lucre changing hands, just one hand washing the other.

Can rabble count on it?


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You'd better believe it! I can ask the organizer to put a rabble.ca link to the IF site, and if rabble.ca wants to provide a banner, we will be more than happy to put it up. rabble.ca IS a valuable resource fore activists to network, stay in touch, share strategies, and hear news that is much more critical than the corporate media. rabble.ca and the I.F. are both similar in that anyone can join, play whatever role they want, and do so in an activist manner. Arts & Communications Democracies. rabble.ca need only contact the organizers, and it can be arranged no problem.
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A new act:

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9:00pm The World Naked Bike Ride Jarry Park

I hope if they get arrested they use the "performance art" argument - it could save everyone a lot of headaches, especially after the cops busted a recent Critical Mass in Montreal.


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More ink in The Gazette:

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The Fringe is an anything- goes-in show-biz gumbo, an event whose notion of artistic direction is a lottery. The participants' names are drawn out of a hat; the preview serves as an annual demonstration that this school's-out celebration is a festival of mostly stupid human tricks and sweat-drenched, too-often-naked wannabes.

Gladly he goes on to mention the activist theatre of the IF:

quote:
Verdun playwright David (Balconville) Fennario is the Canadian pioneer of the dramatic-monologue revival, having written a series of solo pieces after his first one-man show, Banana Boots.

Wheelchair-bound as he fights a paralyzing nervous-system disorder, Fennario will be appearing next week at the rival Infringement Festival at Les Artistes du Toc Toc (5864 Park Ave.) - participating in a Poetry and Politics evening alongside Angela Hibbs, Art Armstrong, Anne Stratford and Harry Fox on Thursday, June 17, and performing his solo play Mysteries of Montreal the following two nights at 8 at the same venue.

"First the kick in the ass, then the inspiration" is how Fennario describes his decision to turn to solo work in the 1980s after he left Centaur following a string of mainstream stage hits.

"It was not something that I thought through. It was something that happened to me with the sudden drop in interest in my kind of theatre, along with cuts in (arts) funding in the 1980s."



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Here is Can-West/National Post reporter J. Kelly Neestruck's "blog" regarding the "Fringe".

WARNING: caveat emptor


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Voila! La presse en francais - LA PRESSE:

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Finalement, la dernière des nouveautés du festival de la marge est la suivante: le Fringe a maintenant son «Off». Comme il se doit, le tout premier festival Infringement se tiendra pendant les mêmes dates que l'événement auquel il veut faire affront. Il célébrera la liberté d'expression et encouragera toutes les formes de résistance culturelle, du théâtre d'intervention à l'entartage.


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There is probably the best article of this series by THE LINK (Concordia University). Unfortunately it is not online yet.
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Ha! Here's a laugh! internal communications over at the FringeTM!

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From [email protected] Thu Jun 10 13:00:48 2004
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:46:23 -0400
From: MAINLINE THEATRE
To: [email protected]
Subject: A-B The Monkey -Vine FRINGE Volunteer News Updates...

Hello one and all!

Well today the 14th edition of the St-Ambroise Montreal Fringe Festival
kicks off with our annual opening party in the Parc des Ameriques at
Rachael and St-Laurent blvd. 20h (8pm).

MONKEY DROPPINGS:
The daily volunteer
1/2 and 1/2 pot draw. (Moitier-Moitier)
.50 = 1 ticket and 1$ = 3 tickets.

The draw takes place daily and half the money goes to the volunteer
holding the winning coupon and half goes to the volunteer party fund ...
Everybody wins either way. This is only available to Volunteers!
You can get your tickets at the H.Q. Volunteer sign-up/out desk and/or
directly from Davyn (the Monkeys' Uncle) volunteer coordinator.


Last night the 1st overnight shift had a very pleasant evening in the
Parc ... According to the vine ... We still need overnighters to spend the
night in the Parc throughout the festival ... And particularly on the
evenings of June (14, 16, 18 double Fringe Bucks) and (19*, 20* triple
Fringe Bucks).

We also need MUCH more help with F.O.H. Venue Monitors to help out our Venue
Managers and Technicians with all front of house duties and needs etc.
Shifts range from 3 to 6 hours and you can pick your venue.

We also have some shifts that need to be filled for Head Quarters reception
and Box Office back-up staff.

And, there are even a few of the coveted ROVER shifts still available on
June 13, 17, 18, 19 and 20.

S T R I K E ! ! ! S T R I K E ! ! ! S T R I K E ! ! S T R I K E ! ! !
MONDAY JUNE 21 10h00 to 18h00 WE NEED YOU!!! TRIPLE FRINGE BUCKS! ! !
And some shifts on June 22 to 26 inclusive.

Refer a friend to volunteer at the Fringe and earn
2 Fringe Bucks for the referral!

514 849-0069
[email protected]

Box Office opens at 18h Thursday, June 10 until 23h. You can trade in those
Fringe Bucks for tickets in advance in person there.

Reminder: Free for volunteer shows - you show your Fringe bucks to get in
but you can only get the tickets at the Venue F.O.H. 1 hour prior to show
time.

The Volunteer Party is on SATURDAY, JUNE 26th 8pm. Location T.B.A.



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Here's that LINK article, still not online yet (but will be soon). I'll try and find a way to link it to the cartoon that accompanied the article, a sweet, sweet culture-jam. The article:

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Infringement infringes, for the better

The LINK, June 8, 2004, p.18

BY TRACEY LINDEMAN-JARVIS


From the drunken days of American Prohibition to the near-constant show-downs between protesters and riot police, Montreal has a history of rebellion as long as the list of festivals that take the city by storm throughout the lazy, hazy days of summer.

The Fringe Festival has always been one of Montreal's biggest summer events, but with expansion, a more corporate nature behind the festivities has emerged. Enter the Infringement Festival, the anti-Fringe Festival fringe festival. With their battle cry to "reclaim the fringe," the people behind the Infringement claim that conflict-of-interest corporate sponsorships and the trademarking of the Fringe name will be the downfall of the famed Montreal festival.

"The spirit of the Fringe is what it was when it originally was here; it was a place for artists of any stripe [...] without the financial means to put on big shows, to do theatre and to express themselves artistically," Infringement Chaos Organizer Jason C. Mclean said. "The unfortunate thing is that, along the way, that got lost and what was the Fringe basically became a corporate festival which is Mainstream, Jr."

Mclean said that the notion of creating a counter-Fringe festival had been kicking around for a while, but that it only really began coming together this past January. However, the man behind the Infringement, Donovan King, has a history with the Fringe. His play, Car Stories, is the only play to be kicked out of the Fringe Festival.

On arts writer J. Kelly Nestruck's Internet blog, King asserted that Car Stories was exiled from the festival because of a run-in with former theatre critic for the Montreal Gazette, Pat Donnelly. In King's explanation, Donnelly wanted a free ticket to see Car Stories but the "box office characters" refused, playfully insisting she pay her way. According to King, the theatre critic "flew into a rage," and the Fringe promptly threw the production out citing "noise complaints" as their reason, and banning King from all future Fringe activities.

McLean said that the real reason Car Stories was done away with was because The Gazette threatened to withdraw their corporate sponsorship of the festival. The Infringement has vowed to avoid conflict-of-interest sponsorships and to make sure that those who invest In the new festival are ethical in practice.

"By being part of the festival, we're basically vouching that they're a good company," said Mclean. "They will obviously be mentioned on our website and our publicity because that's where they should be. But they will not be able to dictate what we do; they have no say in the artistic matters of some of the groups."

Though some may see the creation of the Infringement as Donovan King's revenge on the Fringe, Mclean dismissed this notion, explaining that "the real reason why we're doing the Infringement Festival is just to give artists another option, another choice."

Mclean conceded that fringe festivals are probably the most accessible artistic outlets available, but that realistically, they aren't exactly accessible with their fees and waiting lists.

However, the name "Fringe" attracts many festival-goers to Montreal, guaranteeing audiences for its performers. Also, Fringe Festival organizer Patrick Goddard assures that though artists have to pay to be in the Fringe, that they get to keep 100 per cent of their box-office profits, which he estimates can reach an average of $1125 for a five or six-show run. The price range for artists depends on how long the show is, Goddard said. For a 15-minute show that runs five or six days, it costs the performers $375, while an hour-long performance costs $625.

Though this may not seem like the financial big-time, the Infringement's Mclean stated that the cost alone prevents many deserving artists and thespians from taking part In the Fringe. "It's unfortunate that is what is the most accessible thing out there, and that's why the Infringement Festival is needed," he said. The Infringement is free to participate in and there is no screening process - a novel concept.

Among some of the performances at this year's Infringement, the controversial Car Stories will run the whole course of the festival. Briefly, Car Stories takes place in various locations around the Plateau area of Montreal. The journey begins in the back of St-Laurent bar Le Bifteck, where an urban guide greets three spectators at a time. From there, the guide takes them to parked cars where the small group of spectators pile into the back seat to observe the performance taking place in the front and passenger seats.

McLean has performed in Car Stories previously and is enthusiastic about having it run again this year. The Canadian Council for the Arts has given a $20,000 grant to produce the interactive theatre piece, much to the elation of the Infringement organizers.

"It's one of the most ingenious shows I've ever been a part of or ever witnessed, and I don't say that lightly. It's real theatre in real cars [...j in the urban wonderland that we all live in, Mclean said. "What's really interesting is that the spectators, as far as towards the actors in the show, are spectators, but towards everyone else in the street, they're part of the show."

Other performances at this year's Infringement Include Kayhan Irani's We've Come Undone, S. Bear Bergman's You'll Never Piss in This Town Again, as well as local acts like the Dead Dolls' Capitalism Cabaret, David Fennario's Mysteries of Montreal and Matt Jones' Guichet. Also, a flash mob will appear in a metro car one day during the festival and transform it into an impromptu party.

McLean said that Montreal seemed like the Ideal location for an anti-corporate festival because It Is already a left-leaning, politicized city. However, he would love to see the festival spread to other cities throughout Canada and North America. He explained that because the Infringement is attempting to recapture the true spirit of the Fringe, that if people in another city would like to create something like the Infringement festival, that they are more than welcome to set up shop. As a democratically run festival, he would like to see grassroots organizations pick up the idea and create an Infringement to suit their own needs, and not be another notch in a franchise's belt.

However, the Infringement will remain a Montreal phenomenon until then, and McLean thinks the city is more than ready for it. "The time is right for something like this to happen, the time is right now, the time is this summer, June 10th-20th. It's going to be a whole new ballgame…

For more information about the infringement, visit http://www.infringementfestival.com. For the Montreal Fringe, go to http://www.montrealfringe.ca


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I think it's hilarious that you criticize the Fringe festival for being sponsored by a local microbrasserie and a independent music festival in Montreal.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that you are organizing more street level drama, but the holier than the "corporate, mainstream fringe" rhetoric is extremely amusing.


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The culture-jam/cartoon is now up at Ontario Indymedia. Gotta love those gutsy student journalists, who consistently deliver critical reportage of a much higher quality than the corporate media.
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It looks like a stick-figure version of Salvador Dali about to quaff a Guiness. How is this a "sweet sweet culture jam"?

Will culture recover from this jamming? Or is it the end of culture as we know it?


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The character portrayed is the fringe brand mascot - see him appear in FringeTM TV ads. He is the equivalent of what Mickey Mouse is to Disney, or Ronald is to McDonalds. In this caption he is not representing anything fringe-like, but rather is both presenting the corporate sponsor as supreme (centred, bigger than him, and emiting rays like the sun), all the while being upstaged by it. Ahhh....semiotics...

There's another good c-jam on the Fringe TM HERE. I wish I knew how to put them here, and appreciate others doing so.

The National Post article is apparently coming out tomorrow, written by the blogger Kelly Neestruck mentioned in several posts above.


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quote:
Originally posted by Performance Anxiety:
The character portrayed is the fringe brand mascot - see him appear in FringeTM TV ads. He is the equivalent of what Mickey Mouse is to Disney, or Ronald is to McDonalds. In this caption he is not representing anything fringe-like, but rather is both presenting the corporate sponsor as supreme

That is unbelieveable. Please explain to me how a local Montrealer Peter McAuslan's local Montreal craft microbrewery's sponsorship of a local Montreal Fringe drama festival is comparable to McDonald's or Disney? Perhaps the real tyrant here is another Fringe 'corporate' sponsor PopMontreal, the local Montreal independent music festival, featuring such corporate sell-outs like local Montreal band The Unicorns?


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Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that you are organizing more street level drama, but the holier than the "corporate, mainstream fringe" rhetoric is extremely amusing.

Yes, it is meant to be extremely amusing and dramatic, all the while encouraging critical thought. Such is the nature of all good cultural resistance.

The I.F. has nothing against St. A's or POP, but it does object to the "Fringe" being named after ANY corporate sponsor, and it olso objects to the fact that theatre artists in the show have to pay-to-play, while apparently musical acts do not. Hardly fair. All artists should be treated equally - there should be no fees paid whatsoever, and there should be no surcharges, hidden fees, or other such deceptive ways to further squeeze the artists and their audiences.


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Please explain to me how a local Montrealer Peter McAuslan's local Montreal craft microbrewery's sponsorship of a local Montreal Fringe drama festival is comparable to McDonald's or Disney?

I was drawing a parallel between the FringeTM mascot and the Disney & McDonalds ones. Corporations use mascots all the time to peddle their brands - I was just pointing out that it is fun when they get jammed.


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quote:
Originally posted by Performance Anxiety:
The I.F. has nothing against St. A's or POP, but it does object to the "Fringe" being named after ANY corporate sponsor, and it olso objects to the fact that theatre artists in the show have to pay-to-play, while apparently musical acts do not. Hardly fair. All artists should be treated equally - there should be no fees paid whatsoever, and there should be no surcharges, hidden fees, or other such deceptive ways to further squeeze the artists and their audiences.

I see. So you object to the use of sponsorship to support the fringe arts (many of these sponsors could be said to be in similar positions of their own respective industries,) and you also object to the artists paying their way in order to access large audiences and press to whom they wouldn't normally be privy, while they still enjoy the entire box office money for their show? You would rather the artist pay their own start-up fees in order to obtain a smaller audience for a smaller ticket price? I'd like to hear why what McAuslan is doing is such a bad thing without meaningless jargon like "corporate" and "trademark." You keep mentioning some 'conflict of interest' but never mention what those interests, in fact, are.


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I see. So you object to the use of sponsorship to support the fringe arts (many of these sponsors could be said to be in similar positions of their own respective industries,) and you also object to the artists paying their way in order to access large audiences and press to whom they wouldn't normally be privy, while they still enjoy the entire box office money for their show? You would rather the artist pay their own start-up fees in order to obtain a smaller audience for a smaller ticket price? I'd like to hear why what McAuslan is doing is such a bad thing without meaningless jargon like "corporate" and "trademark." You keep mentioning some 'conflict of interest' but never mention what those interests, in fact, are.

Fisrtly it should be noted that the Montreal St. Ambroise "Fringe" is the only "fringe" named after a corporate sponsor. It is a symptom of corporatization. Not only are all the venues "sponsored", but the entire festival is. Perhaps organizers will reserve the right to impose corporate sponsors on individual acts, or why not the individual artists themselves?

In doing this, St. Ambroise send out a message that it is on equal footing with the concept of "Fringe". Good advertising strategy if you're trying to be "cool", but it backfires when that "cool" is exposed as exploitative towards artists, meaning brand damage.

As for Fringe artists keeping 100% of their tickets, unfortunately this is not the case. there are "service charges" of $1-$3 PER ticket sold. That's a lot of money that could go a long way to supporting independent arts.

As far as conflict-of-interest sponsorships, thankfully there aren't as many as there used to be. The main sponsors in conflict-of-interest this year are MIRROR, ICI, and CFCF TV (because they are both sponsors & media, they enter into a conflict of interest, as we saw with the whole can-west global fiasco). As for St. Ambroise (a beer company), the main conflict I can see is insisting that the entire festival be named after it, which is highly insulting to real fringe artists, while contributing to the commodification of arts and the gentrification of the neighbourhood.

Others might include: Diesel (do they employ sweatshop labour?), ToBe (never heard of it).

Other sponsors that were conflict-of-interest (or unethical) who have thankfully left: Can-west Global, MAC cosmetics, 99.9 THE BUZZ.

Other FringeTM festivals are even worse. Associating with the "fringe " trademark to try and sell unhealthy fast food to children is reprehensible.


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Ick! The Toronto "fringe" is sponsored by Starbucks, an unethical company known for harassing our first nations, destroying communities with gentrification, and discriminating against real fringe artists. I personally find it disturbing that this corporate sponsor, claiming to be "fringe", actually attempts to have real fringe artists (Rev. Billy) arrested when they go into a store.
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As for Fringe artists keeping 100% of their tickets, unfortunately this is not the case. there are "service charges" of $1-$3 PER ticket sold.

That's a service charge on top of the ticket price set by the artist. One dollar for buying the ticket at the door is hardly corporate theft.

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That's a lot of money that could go a long way to supporting independent arts.

Newsflash: IT IS. It's supporting the fringe festival.

You clearly have a personal gripe against a perfectly legitimate supporter of independent artists, for whatever reason. Just because your acts couldn't get their act together and organized before the submission date for the fringe festival doesn't make your cries against corporate hijacking of street-level art ring any less hollow. In fact, it's tiresome.

Besides, St-Ambroise makes the best beer in Canada. It's absolutely delicious.


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Besides, St-Ambroise makes the best beer in Canada. It's absolutely delicious.

According to the moderator you have to pay for advertising on babble.


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I just discovered this recentvideo of one of the good Reverend's performances at a Starbucks in Camden Town, London. Once a local marketplace run by the people for the people, it is looking more and more like a shopping mall every day.

Now let me get this straight - Starbucks is "fringe" but the Reverend Billy isn't?


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I saw some footage of Reverend Billy at a Disney store in a video called "Culture Jam." My feelings about culture jamming in general entirely aside, the fellow needs some work. His preacher character is terribly weak. He could do well to actually watch some televangelists or, barring that, Mark McKinney's "Preacher Character" sketch from The Kids in the Hall or, barring even that, listen to Neil Diamond's song Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show.
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I liked his performance in that video! Different strokes for different folks, such is the subjectivity of the theatre.

But back to the unethical sponsorship issue, I just discovered that St. Ambroise Montreal Fringe sponsor Diesel Jeans is indeed on a list of unethical companies to be boycotted:

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Diesel Jeans and Workwear-began in '96 because of their ads that have things like a woman tied to train tracks, a dog imagining a woman's crotch, and lately images of couples enjoying the rich life adjacent to peasants living in squalor and extreme poverty. Pres. Mr. Renzo Rosso, U.S. Diesel Team, 80 W 40th St. New York, NY 10012, (212) 575-8222.

That is highly disturbing, extremely sexist, and probably promotes violence against women. I haven't seen these specific ads, but if they are like those used by many multi-national corporations to sell their "size zero" sweatshop products, I wouldn't be suprised if they are highly degrading towards women.


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Aw hell naw. Unless "wearing a suit" is good enough these days. I mean, I do a better preacher character than that guy.
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Ugh! Apparently Diesel also tries to co-opt and commodify the Situationists with their "commercials":

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Advertisement for Diesel Jeans (c/o dmt). Their website currently revolves entirely around a protest motif which trivializes the idea of protest with fashion models bearing placards that read "Free the Goldfish."


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posted 15 June 2004 03:46 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by Performance Anxiety:
I just discovered that St. Ambroise Montreal Fringe sponsor Diesel Jeans is indeed on a list of unethical companies to be boycotted:

Well, I'm glad you finally found a reason to criticize one of the Fringe's sponsors. Perhaps, if you had cited these travesties before you decided to boycott the criminals who started the Montreal Fringe, your argument would have carried some weight. Instead, it smacks of sour grapes.


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Dude, there is no boycott against the Montreal "Fringe" or its sponsors (except Diesel). What is being challeged is rampant corporatization of the arts, resulting in artists being exploited while their communities deteriorate as Wal-Mart and Starbucks move in, rents skyrocket, and festivals belonging to the people are snatched up on Bay Street, transformed into commodities, and then sold as advertising to corporations who want to buy into the "cool" factor.

It's dangerous business, especially with the internet and critical zines. Associating a corporation with a commodity that stinks will do brand damage to that corporation. That is why PEPSI dropped Michael Jackson like a hot potatoe when allegations of molestation appeared. They didn't want their brand tainted by the scandal. I imagine it is the same thing in Montreal: why would a micro-brewery like St. A's want to be associated with an unethical "festival" that exploits artists for profit while claiming to be "Fringe". The real artists, who aren't stupid you know, might tell their friends, who might decide to switch brands of beer because it is no longer "cool" to drink St. Ambroise due to their high-profile connection to the scandal. Whoever is on marketing at St. A might want to re-evaulate. There's nothing wrong with sponsoring artists, but when you insist that the "Fringe" is the same as "Brand X", that is where you run into problems. Go and ask the artists at the "Fringe" what they think of it, and you'll probably hear 9 times out of 10 that they don't think "St. Ambroise Fringe" is appropriate. It is a people's festival, and St. Ambroise is infringing on the artists with its central presence to the festival. Instead of being a real fringe theatre festival, it appears more and more like a beer (and jeans, and corporate media) marketing opportunity.


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it is no longer "cool" to drink St. Ambroise due to their high-profile connection to the scandal.

Hehe. It's a scandal now? But we're all still reeling from AdScam. If you're telling us that a small brewery is now sponsoring local events, then I for one don't know what the hell this wacky, mixed up world is up to anymore!


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Magoo, its been a scandal for years now (not so much the St. Ambroise sponsorship, but rather the exploitation of artists). It all stems from the first show in the history of Fringe theatre being kicked out of a festival - by a corporate sponsor (Can-West Global). Like I said, nothing wrong with the St. A sponsorship; what is wrong is the prominent placement.

OK, onto our favourite Can-WEST Global paper - theNational Post. Unfortunately you need a full online subscription to access the article (buying a 1 day electronic edition will waste $5 of your dollars - and you won't get to read it). The article, mostly a pro-FringeTM dollars-and-cents type of analysis, might fit better into the Financial section than the "Arts & Life". Here's a bit on the I.F.:

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While the Fringe festivals are deemed too racy by some sponsors, they also face criticism from artists who have felt that the festivals have grown too staid and conservative as they've grown. In Montreal, this has led a group of anti-establishment artists to form an alternative festival called the Infringement Festival.

Jason C. McLean, Chaos Organizer of the Infringement Festival, believes that the Montreal Fringe had become too reliant on corporate sponsorship and is no longer a refuge for cutting-edge artists. "I see [Infringement Festival] as an alternative that could maybe take its place;' says McLean, who is also acting in the festival's Dead Dolls Capitalism Cabaret. "At the same time too, I'm hoping that the Fringe Festival will maybe learn something from us and not charge as much and be a little bit more democratic."

Run by McLean and noted provocateur Donovan King - who became the first artist to be kicked out of the Montreal Fringe five years ago - the Infringement Festival charges no entrance fee and has attracted about 25 theatre troupes, as well as some mainstream credibility thanks to the presence of Montreal playwright David Fennario, who is performing his Mysteries of Montreal show in the festival.

Hechtman says he has "no opinion" on the Infringement Festival and doesn't see it as a particular challenge to the Fringe. "Well, just to say - it has nothing to do with the Infringement Festival - but one of the challenges [of running a Fringe Festival] would be that, because of the nature of the Fringe, we do tend to attract a fair number of crackpots," he says, with a laugh. "But that kind of keeps,it interesting."


Comparing the article by the LINK (pro-artist) and this one (pro-capitalist) just goes to show the sort of filters that exist in corporate right-wing media: missing is the critical analysis and questioning that could actually lead to social change and the betterment of the arts in Canadian society. Still, the fact that it is mentioned at all signifies a step in the right direction, especially given that the blogger/journalist, sdespite claiming to be "on the fence", has actually been parrotting the festival organizers (eg: Hechtman) in dissing the activists for the past few years. It sounds like even Hechtman is changing his tone (at least in the print media), yet another good sign for the artists.

Now if only he would pay back the ticket sales money (over $1000) to the group he defrauded in 2001 (after kicking them out on the sponsor's command), then he might really be on the road to redemption.

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I now have officially no idea what you're talking about. You are completely over the deep-end. I finally understand why I am the only one attempting to address your ridiculous accusations and bizarre speculations.

But, be at ease! I am presently writing to Peter McAuslan to outline my outrage at his first-hand efforts to increase sweat shop work in third-world countries, sabotage the outstanding reputation of Michael Jackson, rasie rents in Montreal while bringing the Plateau to new outrageous levels of gentrification, move Bay Street to Montreal and pimp out independent Canadian artists to Starbucks and Chapters in order to make a corporate dollar off of their previously legitimate art.


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You are completely over the deep-end. I finally understand why I am the only one attempting to address your ridiculous accusations and bizarre speculations.

A lesson learnt.


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Magoo, its been a scandal for years now

It's only a scandal when the general public gives a rat's ass. This is a 'scandal of one'.

You realize that if kicking "Car Stories" to the curb were a crime, and not a public service, that the statute of limitations would soon be running out? That should be a clue from the universe directly to you: let it go. Move on. Enough. Does it not dawn on you, at some level, that at this point all you're effectively doing is turning people OFF of theatre? Making them hate the very words "Car Stories" or "Optative Theatre"? And if you realize this, why haven't you flipped the record?


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Magoo, I don't think the artists want to "move on". If you support exploiting and defrauding artists at a "fringe" festival and telling them to "move on", that's your perogative. I'm sure Bush has the same message for Michael Moore - just ingore everything oppressive that happens, don't talk about it, allow it to continue, and move on.

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With attitudes like that there will be no social change. My suggestion? Move on from being deploiticised, apathetic, and dragooned. Artists at the infringement are dealing with the issues important to the communities, in ways that can artistically challenge oppression, and for you to suggest they "move on" is pretty insulting.


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ps: SCANDAL

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scan·dal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skndl)
n.

A publicized incident that brings about disgrace or offends the moral sensibilities of society: a drug scandal that forced the mayor's resignation.

A person, thing, or circumstance that causes or ought to cause disgrace or outrage: a politician whose dishonesty is a scandal; considered the housing shortage a scandal.

Damage to reputation or character caused by public disclosure of immoral or grossly improper behavior; disgrace.

Talk that is damaging to one's character; malicious gossip.



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What exactly is the "exploitation of artists" you're talking about above?

And I understand why you might be ticked by the Fringe branding, but does it actually matter?

Does the branding have any effects on the artists or audiences and what they do?

Just curious.

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What exactly is the "exploitation of artists" you're talking about above?

Just curious.


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Exploitation of artists includes the following "long list of reasons":

1) charging fees in the range of $300 - $700 to play in the theatre and be associated with the "fringe" trademark. This is called "pay-to-play" and is considered unethical in most arts circles.

2) The Montreal fringe defrauded the group OTL by refusing to pay them the ticket sales they received from their show car stories (over $1000) after the producers kicked them out on the orders of their corporate sponsor.

3) "Service charges" of $1 - $3 are added on to every ticket sold, despite the fact that the festivals promise that artists keep all the money from ticket sales.

4) The artists are put into a very awkward position because the festival associates their artistry with unethical sponsors - in this thread we saw Starbucks, Diesel Jeans, General Mills Foods, MAC Cosmetics, and a host of corporate media. A search on the festivals will undoubtably reveal a lot more. These sleazy corporations are advertising their products off the backs of the artists without consent or compensation. Artists are paying money to support corporate advertising.

5) Conflict-of-interest sponsorships mean that if any artist wishes to artistically criticize a sponsor, the sponsor will always take precedence, leading to censorship or in some cases actually having acts removed from the festival.

6) The corporate organizers of the festival, originally owned and operated by the people, have co-opted it and transformed it into cash cow, contributing to the commodification of the arts and the gentrification of various neighbourhoods, all the while destroying an exciting community arts event.

7) Many artists are actually banned from participating in (and even entering) the fringe festival - they are literally stopped by security guards at the Fringe border.

8) Because the festival is run on a corporate model, the artists have no more say in their festival. It is all conducted behind closed doors and without their input. The democracy that was once there is no longer. The festival has been privatized without the consent of the artists.

9) Artists who use the word "fringe" to present their performances are subject to lawsuits for copyright infringement.

Etc.

The overall effect is chilling and symptomatic of the monoculture that invades every corner of our lives - the transformation of a people's festival of resistance into the equivalent of a sanitized shopping mall peddling numerous brands: a McFringe. Dissent is not allowed, and as long as the cash is flowing, everything is AOK.


The I.F., on the other hand, is free for the artist, who keep all ticket sales sans "service fees". There are no unethical or conflict-of-interest sponsorships, and the festival is democratic and open to all.

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Okay, thanks for that.

I have to say that I'd think only #2 would really count as exploitation. (The OTL should take 'em to court).

The TM protection I can also see being a sore point. Is the Fringe organisation actually a for-profit corp. now?

Everything else looks like voluntary agreements, and I'm guessing that the artists get promotional and maybe organisational benefits from their association with the festival.

And it sounds like the IF offers all the dissident alternatives so (aside from the TM thing) what's the big whoop?


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The OTL should take 'em to court

On the advice of the Governor General's lawyer the OTL "fights its wars in the media, not the court room". Mind you, every time the OTL has been summoned to the court, it has won.

So, why play their game when you can play your own?


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Well, because according to your account, the Fringe basically swindled OTL out of cash money. You can't win that back in the media, but you can in small claims, if you're right.

Unless I'm misunderstanding, and there was some kind of contract or agreement that OTL broke.


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Edited to remove double post. Which I apparently am as dumb as ...

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Well, because according to your account, the Fringe basically swindled OTL out of cash money. You can't win that back in the media, but you can in small claims, if you're right.

You most certainly can win it back in the media. Think of those consumer protection shows that expose unethical practice in business. Due to negative exposure and brand damage, the unethical companies are usually pretty quick to clean up their acts in order to do damage control. returning the money.

I wouldn't be suprised if the OTL gets its money back soon, because there's a real sh*tstorm brewing, and the artists of both the fringe (who are being treated like a pork barrell) and the I.F. (who are being treated with respect) are getting angrier by the day. When artists are angry, they tend to express themselves in loud and dramatic ways. It's really best to treat them right to start off with, because if you don't, they might just stand up for themselves and demand it.


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It's been years now. You've probably made, what? A few hundred posts about Car Stories to how many different bulletin boards, discussion sites and blogs. What do you suppose is suddenly going to change? Do you really think they're getting smeared by your rants and are "feeling the pressure"?

Seriously, this is like still whining that Canada was robbed of the Silver medal. And it's not going to be any less sad this time next year, when you're still on about it.


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I don't know Magoo. When the National Post, along with almost all the media in Montreal are discussing an issue at length and over a decent period of time, my guess is that there are a lot of people interested in the story. And so they should be (unless they support corporatization of the arts).
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More ink from Mirror:

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Infringer alert

Double-checking times and venues is doubly important when dealing with the outlaw Infringement Festival. I tried to check out You'll Never Piss in This Town Again, by transgendered Bostonian S. Bear Bergman but the venue changed and I missed it. Of particular interest in the remaining eclectic lineup is We've Come Undone, by New York activist Kayhan Irani, which deals with the experiences of Arabs and Muslims in a post 9/11 world. This is supposed to be opening at Le Petit Campus on Friday with two more shows at Zeke's Gallery on Saturday, but for God's sake consult the Web site before you go (see below).



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Bill Brownstein, a Gazette columnist who created his own infringement at city hall a few days ago (he drank the same $107 bottle of wine bureaucrats whet their palates with on our tax dollars, illegally right on the city steps as his media unit recorded the infringement), has written about the i.F. HERE. Like the NP, you must be a permanent "subscriber" to access the news. I am not, but would appreciated it if anyone who is might post what Brownstein had to say.
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Culture Jam tonight! Jammers in MTL meet @ 7:30 at the Bif (3702 St. Laurent) or Miami at 8:15. Bring tuxedos, evening gowns, etc.

More press on indymedia - still in the queue in Quebec, in Alberta there is a disturbing message:

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Hello everyone,

Alberta.indymedia.org has been taken down indefinitely. It has shown
no signs of editorial activity since Sept 2003, and so has been a
wide open, unmoderated newswire since that time, using 11-16GB of
bandwidth per month. Someone recently posted a media file to the site
(probably linked externally in many places) that has generated over
100GB in traffic in a week. We are already behind on our bandwidth payments
and simply can't afford to keep this apparently unmoderated site alive.

Please contact tech(at)ender.indymedia.org if you need any more information.

imc tech team


The article I mention was posted on Alberta Indymedia, and may have caused a systems crash due to volume (many people around the planet are trying and stay updated on the latest developments.)


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Evening gowns? Tuxedos? How elitist! Where will all those poverty-stricken culture-jamming theatricians get money to participate in this adventure?
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Hardy-har-har-har Michelle. The jam is based on the Billionaires for Bush (would link but won't without permission from moderator, who is suggesting fees be paid to discuss this topic).

Anyways, Can-West Global's Gazette:

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A cultural kaleidoscope on The Main

BILL BROWNSTEIN
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Montrealers are mired in the mayhem of a demerger vote today and a
federal election next week. Some might want a respite. May we suggest
some cultural mayhem taking place in the heart and soul of this city
today? That would be The Main, home-base for one of the wackiest
convergences of culture ever unleashed upon this metropolis.

Within a few blocks of one another on St. Laurent Blvd, you can take
in the Fringe festival, the Infringement festival, Magnifico: The Al
Fresco Summer Film Event and the oh-so-aptly named Main Madness
street sale. Clearly, the stars are in some kind of kooky alignment.

But you'd do well to act swiftly, since the aforementioned spectacles
all come to a close this evening. Then you'll have to wait an
impossibly long three days for the next cultural blowout to hit town,
the Fete Nationale.

So where to begin your trek? (And trek would be the operative word,
since much of The Main is closed to vehicular traffic.) You'll likely
need a libation after the walk up the street, all the while trying to
avoid colliding with a Brazilian lambada troupe and/or purveyors of
Bavarian sausages. So, may we recommend the Fringe beer tent-cum-
outdoor stage at the corner of The Main and Rachel St.?

No Drag Races today - showcasing this city's finest drag queens doing
an obstacle course in stilettos - but that blast of sonic energy
coming from the beer-tent stage at 2 p.m. is courtesy of Ottawa
rockers, the Smacks. And if you can handle some bad(butt)-funk at 3
p.m. and 4 p.m., You Me and the Enemy and Mo' PhonQ will deliver.

And if you just can't tear yourself away from the tent, the Fringe
presents its Frankies at 8 p.m. for best comedy, choreography, spit-
disturbing et al.

Frankly, though, in the interests of fair play, you ought to consider
sipping suds at the nerve-centre of the upstart Infringement
festival. That would be the gloriously ramshackle Bar Bifteck, 3702
St. Laurent Blvd. And there you more than likely will encounter
Donovan King, the Infringement fest's "artistic facilitator" and
creator of Car Stories - which was booted from the Fringe three years
ago and which probably led to the genesis of Infringement.

But we digress, so does Donovan. He is almost as impassioned about -
no kidding - gardening as guerrilla theatre. He doesn't have
attendance figures yet and probably won't, because that's not the
kind of festival the Infringement is. But he claims the success of
Infringement has surprised even him. "We couldn't stop it next year
even if I were run over by a truck," he cracks.

Not to suggest that any of his adversaries would ever consider such a
dastardly tactic to silence him, but King does relish being a thorn
in the side of the local cultural establishment. "I like to describe
the Infringement as cheeky art," he explains, over a beer. "It sure
beats wank art."

King's cheeky art has definitely attracted a following, and not just
radical thesps and playwrights. Iranian immigrant Shahin K. Taher is
presently documenting the life of King and Car Stories for a feature
film - perhaps to be released at next year's Infringement.

This is a man with a vision all his own," notes Taher. "He is
special." No argument there.

If you have yet to catch Car Stories, it gets off the blocks at Bar
Biftek, today at 2:30 p.m. "Give or take a few minutes," King
says. "We tend to work on anarchist time over here."

Whatever, Car Stories is a fitting choice for the Infringement's
final act this year. Be warned, however, that the play's featured
vehicles don't actually move - although the players in the front seat
fly on all cylinders.

Following Car Stories, the public is invited to partake in the
Infringement closing party and awards ceremonies at 5:30 p.m. - give
or take a few minutes - at the even-more ramshackle Miami Bar, a five-
iron away from the Bifteck. There you might even stumble into
Angelos, supremo of Philosophers Anonymous.

"We're a little like Alcoholics Anonymous," Angelos explains. "But we
tackle different subjects." Like "moral arithmetic" and "emotional
archeology."

Having fun so far? Don't forget to check out the computers and
carpets and clogs on sale or to chow down on the chow mein or corn on
the cob or karnatzels. But we're not finished.

What better way to cap off the cultural madness than to take in the
hit Quebecois flick Gaz Bar Blues, under the stars tonight at 9:30 on
the Prince screen - around the corner from the Ex-Centris? It is the
closing film in this year's Magnifico bash.

OK, now you can catch a few a few winks - before the party revs up
again in three days.

[email protected]



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The article by Stan Kristiansen is now up at Quebec Indymedia:

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Linux is a free computer operating system originally created by Linus Torvalds with the assistance of developers around the world. Developed under the GNU General Public License, the source code for Linux is freely available to everyone. By using Linux you can say goodbye to hefty software costs, hidden pop-ups, and corporate tracking systems; all hallmarks of the much more common Microsoft system. The choice? 1) Pay tons of money to use a junk system that is designed to exploit you (to pad the wallet of Bill Gates); or 2) Pay nothing for a good system that you can even design yourself.
[...] Luckily in the 21st Century, with increased inter-communication and the internet at our disposal, we have more options, even in regards to our theatre now. So think about it. Microsoft or Linux? “Fringe” or infringement? You decide.

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A quick search for this "Stan Kristiansen" on both Altavista and Google turns up nothing but comments made directly after some Donovan King blahter about Car Stories or OTL. Other than that, he wasn't born, doesn't work anywhere, didn't go to school, doesn't have a web page, nothing. Just a few sycophantic cheer-posts are all the legacy that he's left the world.

In other words, "Stan Kristiansen" is just another Donovan King/Performance Anxiety sockpuppet.


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Stan Kristiansen was recently quoted in the editorial page of HOUR. It sounds you are suggesting that Montreal media publishes letters from "sock puppets", which would raise serious concerns as to the quality of the local print media.

Kristiansen, BTW, is a member of Travesty Theatre, and writer for the Indie Theatre Times & Review, a Montreal zine dedicated to independent & alternative theatre.

Great picture, though - looks like a puppet from one of the many puppet shows at this year's i.F.


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CAR STORIES, bearing the infringement torch is now in Ottawa. Apparently the Ottawa Citizen is doing a report. To see the show in Ottawa either call 514-583-3378 or find the man with the yellow glasses at the HI Hostel on 75 Nicholas Street (the OLd Jail) during showtimes:

Fri June 25 7 - 9:30
Sat June 26 7 - 9:30
Sun June 27 3 - 6 pm

Shows are for 3 spectators only, and leave every 30 minutes or so. Pay-what-you-can.


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posted 25 June 2004 10:06 AM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
In this week's MONTREAL MIRROR:

quote:
Mainstream Father's Day this year's hit, Infringement makes a solid squeak

by AMY BARRATT

I remember a time, not that long ago, when it was possible to take in every show at the Montreal Fringe festival. I'm not saying I did it, just that I recognized it was feasible, provided you had absolutely nothing else to do for 11 days in June.

Those days are gone. The Fringe has grown to include over 80 shows. Add to that the more than 20 shows and events in this year's inaugural Infringement Festival and the choices were dizzying.

Fringe numbers indicate that 45,000 people attended this year's fest (18,000 of them at the indoor shows). By any measure, Father's Day, a one-man show from Los Angeles, was the hit of the year. It sold out most of its shows, had a midnight performance added on closing night, and also walked off with the Centaur Theatre "Off the Main" award. This means that it will be offered a slot in Centaur's Wild Side festival next January.

While I offer my congratulations to the insanely talented writer-performer of Father's Day, Kahlil Ashanti, I can't say that any of this is a positive development. Father's Day never really belonged in the Fringe in the first place. Not because it is "in development as a major motion picture" (did anyone ever develop something as a minor one?) or because it is slated to open on Broadway in autumn 2005. The trouble with Father's Day winning awards at the Fringe is that it's a totally mainstream show.

The Just for Laughs judges also felt it necessary to say how great they thought Father's Day was but explained that they couldn't consider it for their prize because it "wasn't comedy." That must have come as a surprise to stand-up comic Ashanti. They ended up choosing The Imponderables for a spot in the JFL On the Edge series.

There are dozens of shows I wish we would have a chance to see again but probably won't. Just the local ones include: Caketown, Bowlin' Ghosts, Kabarett: A Cheerical, Steel, Wanting and, of course, Never Surrender's Greatest Adventure.

Infringe politics

The Infringement Festival, as we probably all know by now, was born out of a long-standing beef with the Fringe. It's not my battle, and I refuse to fight it in this space. The point is that, despite its, well, spiteful beginnings, the Infringement wasn't just a protest vote; it showed us a different way of doing things and, in the end, provided a real alternative. I hope it will be back next year. But I also hope that the organizers, OTL and Travesty Theatre, will, like Kahlil Ashanti in Father's Day, break free of the "abusive parent" and get on with their lives. For its own good, the Infringement Festival should not run concurrently with the Fringe. If it continues to do so, it will be robbing itself of media attention and audiences. Why not take the 10 days immediately following the Fringe? That way the Infringement could benefit from the Fringe momentum without directly competing with it.



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audra trower williams
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posted 25 June 2004 11:04 AM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
How to advertise with rabble.ca.

[ 25 June 2004: Message edited by: audra trower williams ]


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Performance Anxiety
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posted 26 June 2004 01:08 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
Cheers for that Audra! I will get in touch soon to pay you for discussing this activist event on babble.

In the meantime, the Ottawa Citizen story regarding Car Stories being in town is now online (unfortunately only for Can-West subscribers). The headline (which is "free" if you don't count being assaulted by all the pop-ups and advertisements):

quote:
Slip into the back seat for unusual Car Stories

Stroll by the Ottawa Youth Hostel on Nicholas Street and look for the man wearing yellow-tinted sunglasses. He's the one handing out tickets to Car Stories, a theatre-going experience that promises to be as unconventional as its sidewalk "box office."


Audra, I was wondering if rabble has access to these "subscriber" sites.


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posted 26 June 2004 06:53 PM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post
Audra, if rabble is short of funds, you might consider offering a pay-per-not-view service that screens any mention of OTL, the IF and Car Stories for subscribers.

I know I'd haul out my credit card in a hurry.

Edited to add: If you can throw in a blocker to any discussion of the Mid-East conflict, you'd be able to afford the wedding of the millenium.

[ 26 June 2004: Message edited by: Oliver Cromwell ]


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posted 26 June 2004 07:23 PM      Profile for mary123     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Montrealers are cheap especially if they have to give money to Torontonians.

Or maybe they are just poor. (And have poor taste as shown here!)
(I too am a Montrealer but I'm not cheap were I to advertise on a worthwhile board such as rabble.ca.)

[ 26 June 2004: Message edited by: mary123 ]


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Performance Anxiety
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posted 29 June 2004 03:52 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
Audra, I sent a message to the rabble business desk. I am still awaiting a reply. Babblers, please lay off on the cost issue until we can sort it out with the business desk. As I've said, we will pay to discuss this event if necessary.

The latest developments:

quote:
Hi folks!

I am pleased to announce that the results of memefest are in, and it looks like the i.F. scored pretty high in the great international meme contest - we came in fifth place (BEYOND category) with an 8.2 rating, plus the submission was quite late. Next year let's aim for first place and get this infringement spreading virally across the globe! Bookmark infringementfestival.com to stay tuned.

For details on the contest, see: http://beyond.memefest.org/

I also wanted to mention that our updated media kit is now printed, and we will be happy to send it out free of charge to whoever would like it. There's over 15 articles from local and national media, including perspectives from corporate, student, and activist sources. If you are thinking of starting your own infringement, the documents will give you a good background on the fest, plus the reactions to the first annual Montreal version. Please email me with your mailing address and I can pop it in the post.

Finally, the OTL infringement show CAR STORIES will be in Toronto from July 9 - 11. Torontonians who wish to participate, please get in touch. We are seeking generous souls to help billet our crew, and are also welcoming artists who wish to play in the show. See http://optative.net/carstories/ for more details, and please do get in touch if you would like to join the theatrical fun.

Hope everyone is well! Cheers!


Jason C. McLean, Chaos Organizer

[email protected]

Optative Theatrical Laboratories (www.optative.net)



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audra trower williams
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posted 29 June 2004 05:05 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The rabble business desk?
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HeywoodFloyd
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posted 29 June 2004 05:14 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Isn't that the bottom right drawer in Sharon's desk?
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posted 29 June 2004 05:21 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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The rabble business desk?

You know, Audra. The Business Desk. It's right next to the Copy Desk, in front of the Foreign Affairs Desk, and behind the City Desk, just as with any big-city daily paper. C'mon, you've seen Spiderman or Superman, haven't you?


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Performance Anxiety
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posted 29 June 2004 06:15 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:38:40 -0400
To: [email protected]
Subject: cost of discussing activist event on babble

Please let me know if it didn't get through. Cheers!

[ 29 June 2004: Message edited by: Performance Anxiety ]


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posted 29 June 2004 06:46 PM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Oliver Cromwell:
Audra, if rabble is short of funds, you might consider offering a pay-per-not-view service that screens any mention of OTL, the IF and Car Stories for subscribers.

If economics ever gets old, you may have a future in marketing. You seem to know what people want.

[ 29 June 2004: Message edited by: Slim ]


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Performance Anxiety
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posted 30 June 2004 01:27 AM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
Might as well post it here - apparently it didn't get through:

quote:
Dear Rabble.ca,

I was told by the moderator Audra that we must pay to discuss an activist theatre event on babble:

http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001125

We do not want to buy an ad, but rather wish to be able to discuss and promote our festival in peace and without being constantly attacked by people on the board. Also, we want a place where we can post the bulk of the media about the event (a substantial amount, both coroporate & activist). It was our feeling that babble was a place for activists to discuss their events and strategies sans charge, but apparently we were mistaken.

I have noted that the cost of what we are looking for is not listed in your prices. Please clarify how much it will cost to continue our discussion without further interference, accusation, and insult. As life-celebrators and world-changers, as artists who live well below the poverty line, as members of Canada's left, we are hoping that the cost is not too high, otherwise we may be forced to lay off some of the activist theatricians who are currently participating in the project. This would be very hurtful to the artists, many of whom are getting paid for the first time for their theatrical activism. I do hope we can sort this out ASAP, as the crew will be going to Toronto soon. Please get in touch and let me know. Cheers!


Audra, please ask whoever runs "business" to get in touch with the artists. Thank you.


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posted 30 June 2004 01:39 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
Isn't that the bottom right drawer in Sharon's desk?

It's the round can in front of the bottom right drawer in Sharon's desk.


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Performance Anxiety
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posted 30 June 2004 11:44 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
Discussion is open at the memefest discussion board:

quote:
Author: Dan Boyle
Date: 2004-06-30 09:26:15 CET

Comment:
As a theatre artivist from New South Wales, temporarily residing in Canberra, Australia I too have seen the relentless onward march of the corporate monolith, from the U.K., to Australia to the third world. I too have felt the despair inherent in tackling such a gargantuan task alone, and have realized the only route to success is locally. Each head of this beast which we cut off and and replace with authentic human expression, each sterile and vacuous facet of corporate consumer culture which we subvert to our purposes - is one small step towards a better world. So congrats Infringement, for restoring my hope, something we all need from time to time. You\'ve demonstrated a beautiful concept however, as with all such beautiful concepts, the question now is, will it fly? I must admit I\'m intrigued though, please post some way for me to get in contact with you on this board, it sounds like just what this redneck, sterile, wannabe U.S.A. backwater needs. It seems as though the possibilities for Infringement are endless........


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Performance Anxiety
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posted 30 June 2004 11:51 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
Also, all major corporate media outlets have received a media package along with the following letter:

quote:
Important Theatre Scoop:
infringement’s CAR STORIES coming to Toronto!

June 30, 2004

Dear [fill-in-the-blank corporate media employee]

I am writing today to let you in on a story that is making waves in the Canadian and International theatre scenes: the creation of the infringement festival. Protesting the corporatization of the Fringe, this new festival has been dubbed “the Linux of Theatre”, is free for the artist, and has no unethical or conflict-of-interest sponsors. I have enclosed a media kit for your examination, along with a call-out letter for Torontonians interested in the infringement show that is about to descend on Toronto: CAR STORIES.

With generous support from the Canada Council, CAR STORIES is taking a road trip, and has just completed the Ottawa run. As the only show ever to be kicked out of a “Fringe" Festival, it has been described as “infamous” (Amy Barratt, Montreal MIRROR), as “a lot of fun, interactive and exciting” (J. Kelly Nestruck, National Post reporter), and as “Montreal's longest running experiment in drama as a culture-jamming street disturbance” (Matt Radz, Montreal Gazette). For an audience of only three, spectators are taken on a theatrical joyride: they embark on a surreal dramatic journey through a series of dark alleyways and parked cars, all set on the fringes of the Toronto “Fringe” festival. CAR STORIES will run every half-hour between the following times: Friday & Saturday (7 – 10pm), Sunday (noon- 3pm). Pay-what-you can.

OTL representatives will be in Toronto as of Monday July 5th to field any media enquiries and to help set up shop for the full crew arriving on Thursday. Thank you for your interest in this ongoing revolutionary theatrical project. Please feel free to contact us for more information (we will have more specific details on the Toronto show soon):

Contact: 514 583-FEST (3378) (ask for Ethan or Donovan)
Website: http://optative.net/carstories/

Sincerely,

Jason C. McLean
Chaos Organizer, Car Stories


It will be most interesting to see if the Hogtown media covers the event, and if so, how. It looks like a lot of them are corporate sponsors of the "Fringe"...


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Performance Anxiety
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posted 30 June 2004 11:58 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
Here's a game. What is offensive to women about the Ottawa "Fringe" Festival's official propaganda.

HINT! Why might the Harmony House Shelter for Abused Women be upset?

HINT! Follow the corporate sponsor's (Alexander Keith's Beer) staged events...


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Stephen Gordon
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posted 30 June 2004 11:58 PM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post
I'm reminded of one of my favourite lines from Bull Durham:


The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness.


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posted 02 July 2004 03:23 AM      Profile for Socrates   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
While I must confess to not really knowing much about this thread of discussion or the so-called infringement festival a quick scroll through this thread has revealed something quite disturbing.

And yes I am refering to Capitalism.

Let me get this straight, Rabble is an open forum for discussions within the activist community, an exchange for activists to share information and ideas, an alternate route to avoid the capitalistic tendencies of the corporate media.

And yet you so-called activists are badgering people to buy advertising on the site!?!?!?!?!?!

I don't give a flying fig newton about the infringement festival but the very idea that people on this site are seriously hassling anybody about promoting their festival and demanding that they pay for advertising makes me sick to my stomach.

Isn't that what Rabble was started to avoid? I know Judy Rebbick and I remember being at a conference 3 or 4 years ago with her where she was explaining the concept to me and I remember being really excited about it.

A real uncensored interface for activists to communicate all sorts of ideas, events, happenings and ideas is precisely what we need.

Another corporate shill demanding advertising revenue from somebody who started a festival is precisely what I, and I suspect many others, are trying to get away from.

What makes it even more shameful is the complicity of the moderator in what seems to me (oh please do correct me if it was all in jest) to be a sincere demand for money for what is interpreted as advertising.

This is a sad day for Rabble indeed and I expect better, especially from moderators of this site, because all of you babblers out there have betrayed the principles on which this site was founded.

And you know what? If somebody out there started an anti-corporate festival and wants to get the word out on Rabble (likely because they can't afford conventional forms of advertising) Why shouldn't we let them?

Advertising, business desks, BAH - you all sound like a bunch of corporate execs.


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Socrates
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posted 02 July 2004 03:41 AM      Profile for Socrates   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Dear Audra,

I understand that this site is in need of funds, most activist activites generally are. I also understand that you are a truly good person doing good work and I respect you tremendously for that.

However, after further inspecting the thread I was dismayed to see that you responded to these ridiculous demands for money by posting a link to a "buy advertising at Rabble" page which sounds like it was written by a corporate hype merchant.

Please, for the good of the site, for the values we all hold dear, clarify this misconception: Rabble does not require payment by people who start threads discussing activist projects, even at length. Right????

[ 02 July 2004: Message edited by: Socrates ]


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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 02 July 2004 04:35 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
this is not about someone who posts about their festival, with a posted press release, then has, say, 4 follow-up posts reminding people before their event, and a "how the event turned out, thanks for babblers for turning up" post after the event.

this thread is not a discussion.

it's PA just posting and posting and posting, and then going into other entirely unrelated threads, and posting about the infringement festival.

and heaven forbid if that annoys anyone after 60 posts, since then we're all money-grubbing capitalist shills.

look, if you've "inspected" the thread so carefully, why don't you click on performanceanxiety's profile, and click on "most recent posts" ... you'd see that 45 of the last 50 posts have been solely on this festival.


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posted 02 July 2004 11:08 AM      Profile for Scout     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Not to mention that PA has been bombing this site with the same crap for about 2 years, and has an absolute disregard for the site moderators and fellow babblers and their repeated requests to cease harassing babblers. Which part of "No" isn't he getting?

So folks can shove the whiny crap about big old mean rabble not playing nice with poor activists. PA can, has and will hijack any thread to promote his own interests, he created any hostility by being a shitty guest.


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posted 02 July 2004 07:36 PM      Profile for Socrates   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Fair enough but what I don't understand is why you keep coming back to this thread if it pisses you off so much. There are thousands of threads on this site and if somebody wants to use one to promote anything remotely activist, from festivals to fair trade coffee or the newest activist bar then why shouldn't we let them?

People who are interested can come to this thread and those that aren't can skip it, isn't that the idea?

Also, someone said that 55 of PA's last 60 posts were on this thread, if that's true it doesn't sound like PA is doing much of the thread spamming you speak of.

Bottom line, let's lay off each other. Why should we attack each other when we could be doing things that are more productive. The reason I got involved is that I was shocked to see the level of hostility here. I would be shocked to see that much hostility on any thread and that it was being directed not at someone who was supporting Stephen Harper or Dubya but at someone trying to promote what appears to be an activist event really shocked me.

We're all on the same side here (I hope) and I really don't understand what's so offensive about starting a thread about whatever someone wants.

An old friend had a saying he liked to use when things got tense between friends or co-workers:

PEACE

It's a long winding road to a better world and we don't get there by fighting each other.


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Performance Anxiety
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posted 05 July 2004 01:20 AM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post
Well said Socrates! People like Scout have been harassing guests to babble, myself included, for a long, long time now. I think the moderator calls them "trolls". In any case, if my postings on theatrical activism have annoyed, please do us all a favour and read no further:

quote:
ARTICLE: Why Starbucks is “Fringe” and theatre activists aren’t…

This year the Toronto Fringe festival has sunk to a new low in terms of corporate sponsorship: Starbucks is now officially “Fringe”. Starbucks, a multinational corporation with a track record of destroying small businesses, gentrifying neighbourhoods, and attacking Canada’s First Nations, is “Fringe” because they had made a corporate sponsorship deal. Theatre activists, like NYC’s Bill Talen (aka: the Reverend Billy) are not considered “Fringe”, because they have not paid hundreds of dollars in “administrative fees” to be a part of the trademarked festival.

In fact, Bill Talen, who uses performance art to challenge unscrupulous corporations, is not even allowed into Starbucks, whose head office issued a communiqué to all stores, stating:

"Treat him as any other customer and do not respond to his or his devotees’ antics. Ask him politely to leave the store. Call the police if he does not leave." —from an internal memorandum circulated by the Starbucks Seattle head office to all branches, April 2000


HISTORY:

The Reverend Billy’s theatrical campaign against Starbucks

http://www.organicconsumers.org/starbucks/ny.cfm


Starbucks sues Haida First Nations for “copyright infringement”:

NOW magazine article by First Nations playwright Drew Hayden-Taylor

http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2003-06-19/news_story6.php

How the Haida Nation won – Globe & Mail article

http://www.arvayfinlay.com/news/news-aug-29-2003.htm


How Starbucks destroys mom-and-pop joints

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_8_34/ai_95541089


Consumer Activists site against Satrbucks:

http://www.starbucked.com/

CALL TO ACTION:


Do some real fringe theatre at Starbucks:

What should I do if, like the Reverend Billy, I want to protest against the unethical and un-fringe Starbucks corporation?

VENUES:

The Toronto Fringe™ has been gracious enough to provide theatre activists with a map of all Starbucks locations (marked by a Starbucks logo) on the Fringe™ map. Please consider these 6 corporate Starbucks locations as anti-corporate performance venues:

http://www.fringetoronto.com/PDF%20files/Venue%20Map.pdf


SCRIPTS:

The Reverend Billy and the Church of Stop Shopping have put the following anti-Starbucks scripts (to be played at Starbucks) online:

Death by Latte

http://revbilly.com/revsite/Writings/Death%20by%20Latte.pdf

http://revbilly.com/revsite/Confess/confess.htm


Please don’t be a passive spectator and don’t buy the official corporate line. Starbucks is not “Fringe” nor will it ever be. Bill Talen, on the other hand, is about as fringe as it gets for theatre artists. Join the infringement and reclaim your culture!!!

To complain to the Toronto Fringe™ about this unethical sponsorship, please call President Chuck McEwen at the “Fringe Hotline”: (416) 966-1062. Or email: [email protected]

Please BCC letters or write your reports to Jason McLean of the infringement festival: [email protected]



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audra trower williams
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posted 05 July 2004 02:16 AM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I feel Performance Anxeity/Donovan King behaves in a disrespectful manner on this site, not participating in it so much as using it to suit his own needs.

There is also a history of his abusing members of this board under a dozen "personae" at once, comme ca:

Audra Estrones Levacks OTL! (in which, Donovan King was posting as several of our babblers on his own set of boards, and then crowing about it).

Backgrounder on King's participation with rabble/babble.

Paranoid rantings.

More paranoid rantings.

King writes to Auntie.com in complaint about me.

Bla bla bla bla bla.

[ 05 July 2004: Message edited by: audra trower williams ]


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 05 July 2004 05:24 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I dunno, the guy has been LEVACKED after all...
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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 05 July 2004 06:24 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
"that's gotta hurt" - bob costas
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Scout
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posted 05 July 2004 10:13 AM      Profile for Scout     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
People like Scout have been harassing guests to babble, myself included, for a long, long time now. I think the moderator calls them "trolls".

Oh really? I think its folks like yourself using multiple aliases who have been suspended and/or banned that might be called trolls. But if it makes you feel better to malign other babblers and attempt to using whining and deceit to win over new and unknowing babblers go ahead, its much easier and more amusing for the rest of us when you make our points for us PA.

Considering I don’t recall ever behaving in this manner:

quote:
I feel Performance Anxeity/Donovan King behaves in a disrespectful manner on this site, not participating in it so much as using it to suit his own needs.
There is also a history of his abusing members of this board under a dozen "personae" at once, comme ca

I think your statement about me rings a tad hollow.
quote:
Fair enough but what I don't understand is why you keep coming back to this thread if it pisses you off so much.

I can only guess if you are referring directly to myself, PA certainly thinks so but that means little, but I haven’t posted all that much to this thread. But, it’s not really up to you, someone who is obviously uniformed regarding PA, to tell babblers what threads they should or shouldn’t post too and if they should be pissed or not. It’s incredibly condescending and makes me wonder if you are just another Donavan King sock puppet trying to paint Audra and babblers in a poor light to garner sympathy for PA and his continued disregard for rabble, babble and it’s staff. 3 out of your 5 post have been to chastise babblers who have had it with PA after all.

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And now, after valiantly defending P.A., Socrates is gone. Where do sock puppets go when they're not puppeting? Do they hibernate? Work odd jobs? Is Socrates off nominating Car Stories for an award?
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posted 05 July 2004 02:02 PM      Profile for Scout     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Do you think it might be like a sock getting lost at the laundry? That gives me glee to think of it getting sucked into the laundry abyss!
From: Toronto, ON Canada | Registered: Oct 2001  |  IP: Logged
Socrates
sock-puppet
Babbler # 6376

posted 05 July 2004 05:02 PM      Profile for Socrates   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
While I appreciate the compliment (I think?) of being called a sock puppet I assure you that there are no laundry abysses (or abyssi?)in my future.

Far from being an artist of any stripe per se, my bent is more in the direction of student radical (you should hear me sing and while the life of a sock puppet certainly looks entertaining (judging from the photo Mr. Magoo was kind enough to post of typical sock puppet shenanigans)I assure you I do exist in flesh and blood and, I might add, am currently wearing no socks! (it's either my dryer or you Mr. Magoo!)

But seriously now, I apologize if I upset anyone defending Poor PA (come on, with a name like that can't you just imagine where his self-esteem is at?)I obviously wasn't privy to the past history there and I will admit that the genital warts thing was a bit shitty but it seems he's been playing with you. And frankly you've taken the bait of this provocateur hook and all, like, dare I say, a bunch of fuddy duddy old aunties. (No offense to our own dear aunt, who is beyond reproach)

Well, this old boy must go and find some socks but I leave you with this advice: why not try playing along? What would poor old PA make of it? he'd have no one to rail against.

And once again apologies to all who take offence to anything I've said, just trying to mend activist fences here, albeit with a bit of Tabasco perhaps?


From: Viva Sandinismo! | Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged
'lance
rabble-rouser
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posted 05 July 2004 05:15 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
While I appreciate the compliment (I think?) of being called a sock puppet ...

Really, now.


From: that enchanted place on the top of the Forest | Registered: Jul 2001  |  IP: Logged
Hinterland
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 4014

posted 05 July 2004 05:25 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post
Too long!

...ha! Not that it means anything coming from me, but I always wanted to say it.

[ 05 July 2004: Message edited by: Hinterland ]


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