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grrr
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posted 02 August 2001 01:39 AM      Profile for grrr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A $3,000 notebook editing video, ripping CD's, storing digital pictures, writing an essay and syncing with a Visor handheld.

Well, lets add it up. Digital video recorder? Anyone have a guess as to what that costs? $500+? CD writer? Built-in or external? USB or Firewire? Lets say between $300 and $700. Writing an essay wit what? MS Office? Around $300. Digital camera if separate from the video cam? Starts at $299. Visor? Cheapest is what? $199?

Who can afford all that? Are not many of the same corporations who used to sell systems now also selling all the neat peripherals?
Finally, computer system sales are slowing because the economy is slowing.

To suggest that the market has slowed because we are all happy with our systems and peripherals, that if totalled would buy many of us a decent used car, is ludicrous.

Most of us get by on older systems not powerful enough to run video while ripping CD's, checking mail and writing essays simutaneously.

Most of us would love a new computer. But other priorities take precedence. Like feeding the kids and paying the rent.


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Michelle
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posted 02 August 2001 08:56 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Last time I paid for Microsoft Office was...wait a minute, I've NEVER paid for Microsoft office. (Don't tell Bill Gates.)
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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 02 August 2001 11:19 AM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My computer (a PowerMac 6500/275) is three years old. Used, it is worth less than $500. It can do all the things you just described.

I do not use MS Office. The only MS product I use is Internet Explorer. For word processing I use a used copy of WordPerfect for Mac that I got at a pawn shop. There is also MarinerWrite, and the lite version is free. My spreadsheet is MarinerLE, another free product.

Cheap software options are out there. But they aren't widely advertised. That's one of the reasons they are so cheap. You gotta find them yourself.

Used video-editing cards can be had really cheap. I got my copy of Stratus VideoShop for free with my subscription of MacAddict. I get a tonne of free software from MacAddict.

A used video camera can be had for (relative) peanuts nowadays. I've seen new, SVHS and Hi8 video cameras selling for less than $500.

We don't HAVE to be slaves to Micro$oft if we don't want to.

And then, there's always Linux...

The wildcard in all this is, as always, knowledge. If you don't know how to fix, maintain and upgrade a used computer, you're gonna have to pay through the nose to get a technician to do it for you. You're better off paying for a new computer that's WAY more than you really need, but at least it works (most of the time).

[ August 02, 2001: Message edited by: Kneel before MediaBoy ]


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Slick Willy
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posted 02 August 2001 12:01 PM      Profile for Slick Willy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You can do all of the things listed above for a relitively cheap price. For most people, a $1500 PC would all of that and more. The most power that would be needed is from the video aspect of it. Remove that component and you could manage to get by easily with a new $700 system. There is ofcourse the other side of that coin. I can produce broadcast quality videos and music with what I have now (well as soon as I can get my head around it) and produce and distribute it on CD or video disk. I use 3 computers for a full scale production to distribute the work load and presentation. Mind you this is no longer in the $1500 ball park.

I have built many computers for people that range from very limited in ability to fully blown. You may think that the hardest part is coming up with the money to pay for it. It's not, hardest thing to do is figure out what it is that you want to do with the system and building it within that budget. Some people have a hard time understanding that they don't need a highend system to learn how to use a computer. Like learning to drive a car, you don't need a Rolls. But then you can't buy a new or used Rolls for $2500 either.

Software is another issue. SHAREWARE!!!
It's all on the Net. Try it before you buy it. Sometimes you can find freeware that does exactly what you want. When you find a programme that does what you want it too with ease, please pay for it. Along with all the middle men you are supporting someone who works hard and spends way to much time making the software run well. They deserve it.

The last part of this equation is service. Some people don't need anything in this regard. For others, that extra couple of hundred bucks turns big problems into small ones. It ranges from poor to "Yeah Baby!"
I try to provide the Yeah Baby! type service.
This may be hard to believe but most of the problems with computers are user error.

A really good way to educate yourself about computer issues is by keeping the latest copy of the local trade rags in the bathroom. Sitting and reading about prices and hardware/software issues a few of minutes each day can put you in the know after only a few months. Plus you will end up saving a load of cash when you buy your next computer.


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 02 August 2001 12:18 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The car analogy is always a good one. People who really know cars can spend less on them, since they can pick out a good used car and they won't have to pay for a mechanic since they can do most of the work themselves.

The same goes for computers. If you know what you're looking for, and how to keep it running, you'll end up spending less.


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Slick Willy
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posted 02 August 2001 04:04 PM      Profile for Slick Willy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
If you know what you're looking for, and how to keep it running, you'll end up spending less.

True enough. The hardware aspect of computers is dead easy once you learn a few tricks. Software on the other hand can get kinda persnickity.


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Slick Willy
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posted 02 August 2001 04:07 PM      Profile for Slick Willy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The car analogy is always a good one

This just occured to me. As with cars, poor drivers cause alot of problems with computers too. heh heh heh Ohh I should be PUNished for that!


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