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Boom Boom
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posted 29 March 2006 09:08 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Someone mentioned Dylan's "Masters of War" in another thread, and that gave me an idea: a music thread devoted solely to anti-war. What are your favourite anti-war songs? (feel free to post poetry, etc...).

Universal Soldier - Buffy St. Marie

He's the universal soldier and he
really is to blame
His orders come from far away no more
They come from him, and you, and me
and brothers can't you see
this is not the way we put an end to war.

ETA: Let's edit our posts to include just one stanza of songs, to make the thread easier to load for those of us on dialup.

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Country Joe & the Fish: Vietnam Rag. Sorry, I don't know the words.
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posted 29 March 2006 09:23 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
No question about it.

And the Band Played "Waltzing Matilda."


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quote:
Originally posted by Cougyr:
Country Joe & the Fish: Vietnam Rag. Sorry, I don't know the words.

quote:
Feel Like I'm Fixing To Die Rag (Next Stop Vietnam)
Country Joe & the Fish

Come on all of you big strong men
Uncle Sam needs your help again
he's got himself in a terrible jam
way down yonder in Viet Nam so
put down your books and pick up a gun we're
gonna have a whole lotta fun

(CHORUS)
And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for
don't ask me I don't give a damn, next stop is Viet Nam
And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates
ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die

Come on generals, let's move fast
your big chance has come at last
now you can go out and get those reds
cos the only good commie is the one that's dead and
you know that peace can only be won when we've
blown 'em all to kingdom come

Come on wall street don't be slow
why man this war is a go-go
there's plenty good money to be made by
supplying the army with the tools of its trade
let's hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
they drop it on the Viet Cong

Come on mothers throughout the land
pack your boys off to Viet Nam
come on fathers don't hesitate
send your sons off before it's too late
and you can be the first ones on your block
to have your boy come home in a box


Woodstock lives!

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posted 29 March 2006 09:34 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
When someone makes a move
Of which we don’t approve,
Who is it that always intervenes?
U.n. and o.a.s.,
They have their place, I guess,
But first send the marines!

We’ll send them all we’ve got,
John wayne and randolph scott,
Remember those exciting fighting scenes?
To the shores of tripoli,
But not to mississippoli,

What do we do? we send the marines!
For might makes right,
And till they’ve seen the light,
They’ve got to be protected,
All their rights respected,
’till somebody we like can be elected.

Members of the corps
All hate the thought of war,
They’d rather kill them off by peaceful means.
Stop calling it aggression,
O we hate that expression.
We only want the world to know
That we support the status quo.
They love us everywhere we go,
So when in doubt,
Send the marines!


Tom Lehrer


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posted 29 March 2006 09:35 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Masters of War - Bob Dylan
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I like music, and I hate war, but I don't like a lot of antiwar songs. In general, I think that pop songs about social issues tend to boil the ideas down to the point of insipitude. St.-Marie's song is an example. I don't share her absolute pacifism, and while she's right to emphasize individual responsibility, she ends up downplaying governmental and social responsibility.
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quote:
Gather round while I sing you of wernher von braun,
A man whose allegiance
Is ruled by expedience.
Call him a nazi, he won’t even frown.
Ha, nazi schmazi, says wernher von braun.

Don’t say that he’s hypocritical,
Say rather that he’s apolitical.

Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?
That’s not my department, says wernher von braun.

Some have harsh words for this man of renown,
But some think our attitude
Should be one of gratitude,
Like the widows and cripples in old london town
Who owe their large pensions to wernher von braun.

You too may be a big hero,
Once you’ve learned to count backwards to zero.
In german or english I know how to count down,
Und I’m learning chinese, says wernher von braun.


Also Tom Lehrer


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posted 29 March 2006 09:42 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Whoops, let's try this instead:

So long Mom, we're off to drop the Bomb!

quote:
So long, Mom,
I'm off to drop the bomb,
So don't wait up for me.
But while you swelter
Down there in your shelter,
You can see me
On your TV.

While we're attacking frontally,
Watch Brinkally and Huntally,
Describing contrapuntally
The cities we have lost.
No need for you to miss a minute
Of the agonizing holocaust. (Yeah!)

Little Johnny Jones he was a U.S. pilot,
And no shrinking vi'let was he.
He was mighty proud when World War Three was declared,
He wasn't scared,
No siree!

And this is what he said on
His way to Armageddon:

So long, Mom,
I'm off to drop the bomb,
So don't wait up for me.
But though I may roam,
I'll come back to my home,
Although it may be
A pile of debris.

Remember, Mommy,
I'm off to get a commie,
So send me a salami,
And try to smile somehow.
I'll look for you when the war is over,
An hour and a half from now!


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posted 29 March 2006 09:43 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Blowin' in the wind - Bob Dylan
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Thanks, unionist, you got it.

How about Pete Seeger's Waist Deep In The Big Muddy:

quote:
It was back in nineteen forty-two,
I was a member of a good platoon.
We were on maneuvers in-a Loozianna,
One night by the light of the moon.
The captain told us to ford a river,
That's how it all begun.
We were -- knee deep in the Big Muddy,
But the big fool said to push on.

The Sergeant said, "Sir, are you sure,
This is the best way back to the base?"
"Sergeant, go on! I forded this river
'Bout a mile above this place.
It'll be a little soggy but just keep slogging.
We'll soon be on dry ground."
We were -- waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool said to push on.

The Sergeant said, "Sir, with all this equipment
No man will be able to swim."
"Sergeant, don't be a Nervous Nellie,"
The Captain said to him.
"All we need is a little determination;
Men, follow me, I'll lead on."
We were -- neck deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool said to push on.

All at once, the moon clouded over,
We heard a gurgling cry.
A few seconds later, the captain's helmet
Was all that floated by.
The Sergeant said, "Turn around men!
I'm in charge from now on."
And we just made it out of the Big Muddy
With the captain dead and gone.

We stripped and dived and found his body
Stuck in the old quicksand.
I guess he didn't know that the water was deeper
Than the place he'd once before been.
Another stream had joined the Big Muddy
'Bout a half mile from where we'd gone.
We were lucky to escape from the Big Muddy
When the big fool said to push on.

Well, I'm not going to point any moral;
I'll leave that for yourself
Maybe you're still walking, you're still talking
You'd like to keep your health.
But every time I read the papers
That old feeling comes on;
We're -- waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.

Waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.
Waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.
Waist deep! Neck deep! Soon even a
Tall man'll be over his head, we're
Waist deep in the Big Muddy!
And the big fool says to push on!


note:

quote:
"Waist Deep in the Big Muddy" told the story of a 1942 Army platoon being pushed by a captain to ford a dangerously deep river. The punch line noted that "the big fool" told his men "to push on." It was clearly a parable about the Vietnam War and the "big fool" was obviously Lyndon Johnson. Seeger sang the song for a 1967 Smothers Brothers television show, but CBS censored it off the scheduled program, because Seeger refused to omit the last verse, which tied the song to Vietnam and Johnson. In response to protests against network censorship, CBS finally permitted the song to be sung in full on a January 1968 Smothers Brothers show. After the CBS nightly news (anchored by Walter Cronkite) became sharply critical of the Vietnam War in 1968, antiwar censorship on television was much less a problem. Thus, on a 1969 Smothers Brothers show, Seeger was allowed to sing "Bring Them Home", a direct call for America to bring home its troops and to end the war.

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quote:
Originally posted by Yossarian:
I like music, and I hate war, but I don't like a lot of antiwar songs. In general, I think that pop songs about social issues tend to boil the ideas down to the point of insipitude. St.-Marie's song is an example. I don't share her absolute pacifism, and while she's right to emphasize individual responsibility, she ends up downplaying governmental and social responsibility.

Only on Rabble!


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posted 29 March 2006 09:46 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Bob Marley - Buffalo Soldier
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posted 29 March 2006 09:49 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
And when we butchered your sons, boys
When we butchered your sons
Have a stick of our gum, boys
Have a stick of our bubble gum
We own half the world, oh say can you see
And the name for our profits is democracy
So, like it or not, you will have to be free
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World

from: Phil Ochs Lyrics - Cops Of The World

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Don’t you understand what I’m tryin’ to say
Can’t you feel the fears I’m feelin’ today?
If the button is pushed, there’s no runnin’ away
There’ll be no one to save, with the world in a grave
[Take a look around ya boy, it's bound to scare ya boy]

And you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.


from: Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire


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posted 29 March 2006 09:54 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Originally posted by Yossarian:
I don't share her absolute pacifism, and while she's right to emphasize individual responsibility, she ends up downplaying governmental and social responsibility.

Perhaps she was saying it begins with individual responsibility?


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posted 29 March 2006 09:59 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Quote: How about Pete Seeger's Waist Deep In The Big Muddy:

My record albums are packed in boxes waiting for a move this summer, but I have this song on at least one Seeger album. How could i have forgotten this one!

Anyway, this is my last contribution I think. Probably there's a Joan Baez antiwar song but I can't remember the title. I've got a lot of her albums - all boxed up.


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posted 29 March 2006 10:02 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Originally posted by unionist:
Whoops, let's try this instead:
So long Mom, we're off to drop the Bomb!

Is that another one by Tom Lehrer? I don't have it on my Lehrer In Concert CD.


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quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
Originally posted by unionist:
Whoops, let's try this instead:
So long Mom, we're off to drop the Bomb!

Is that another one by Tom Lehrer? I don't have it on my Lehrer In Concert CD.


Yeah, it was on "That Was the Year That Was".

That Was The Year That Was

I have all Tom Lehrer songs. All. I've been listening (and singing along) since the early 60s.


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posted 29 March 2006 10:17 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Originally posted by unionist:
I have all Tom Lehrer songs. All. I've been listening (and singing along) since the early 60s.
-
You'd like my oldest brother - he's the same way, knows all the old folk, blues, and bluegrass songs. I discovered Lehrer through my brother's album collection a little later, maybe by 1969.

Wish I had been at Woodstock and Monterey pop, that lyric by Country Joe and the Fish brings back memories (saw the movie Woodstock, and had the LP).


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posted 29 March 2006 10:24 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I was just going to sign off for the night when I remembered this one, one of my favourites from the 60's:

For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down


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quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
I was just going to sign off for the night when I remembered this one, one of my favourites from the 60's:

For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield


It's a wonderful song. Did you know that it was the original theme tune of CBC's "As It Happens"? They must have changed it around 1970 or so to the current one.


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I ain't marching any more - Phil Ochs
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I agree with M. Spector. That song always gets me:

And the young people ask,"What are they marching for?",
And I ask meself the same question.

And of course, this song, which Yossarian undoubtedly thinks is insipid and simplistic, but which is probably etched into the memory of every peace activist:

Last night I had the strangest dream
I'd ever dreamed before
I dreamed the world had all agreed
To put an end to war

(recently covered by Garth Brooks, of all people)

Plus an enormous number of John Prine songs, starting with:

Your flag decal won't get you into heaven any more,
They're already overcrowded from your dirty little war.

so long ago and we haven't learned anything yet

And the possibly more elliptical Great Compromise:

I used to sleep at the foot of Old Glory
And awake in the dawn's early light
But much to my surprise
When I opened my eyes
I was a victim of the great compromise

and more recently, Some humans ain't human:

Or you're feeling your freedom
And the world's off your back
Some cowboy from Texas
Starts his war in Iraq

You gotta love John Prine: still telling it like it is.

Bob Bossin -- a truly great Canadian songwriter in my opinion (Union Cowboy is just fantastic), and I hope you read this comment, Bob -- taught me this Cold War classic:

What if the Russians don't come?
What if they like where they're from?
What if they're not in the mood to invade?
What if they're tired, or drunk, or afraid?
What would we do if their generals just said, this is dumb?
What if the Russians don't come?

(Lyrics by Philip Hoos)

Bob Bossin: "If you want lunch, make lunch. If you want peace, ..."


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With God on our side - Bob Dylan
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quote:
Originally posted by Cougyr:
How about Pete Seeger's Waist Deep In The Big Muddy

One of my faves for sure.


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Alright, my remarks were a little slapdash and simplistic themselves, and maybe sort of intentionally provocative. My favourite anti-war song is probably "Alice's Restaurant (Massacree)" by Arlo Guthrie. Not really a song, more a stand-up comedy routine. Lehrer is tremendously funny too, and manages to make a few blisteringly insightful observations in the process.
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quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield

IIRC, it's not about war per se, but about political repression in Central America.


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V'chititu charvotam l'itim
Va'chanitoteihem l'mazmeirot.
Lo yisa goy el goy cherev,
Lo yil'm'du od milchama.

And they shall beat their swords into ploughshares,
And their spears into pruninghooks:
Nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
Neither shall they learn war any more.


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I recall hearing (FWIW) that "For What It's Worth" was inspired by an anti-war rally attended either by one of the band members, or by one of their friends (think it might've been Peter Fonda).
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All these songs, running through my memory....

The old peacenik campfire singalong; someone always knew the chords to Johnny, I Hardly Knew You. And improvising new verses, as appropriate, to Study War No More.

Eric Bogle's other great song, No Man's Land, famously sung by Tommy Makem and Liam Clancy (and just about everyone else in the world).

And some more recent stuff:

Big Blue Ball of War by Nanci Griffith. I bought the album when I heard the song being played in a CD store, but Heart of Indochine os even better.

But right now I'm listening to Devils and Dust...


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Ok, I'm getting sick and tired of all you Kumbaya hands-around-the-campfire peaceniks. Sometimes to put an end to war, you have to make war. In that spirit, here are the Union Boys (Burl Ives, Tom Glazer, Alan Lomax, Brownie McGhee, Pete Seeger, Sonny Terry, and Josh White - wow!) with their 1944 hit, "U.A.W.-C.I.O.":

quote:

I was hangin' 'round a defense town one day,
When I thought I overheard a soldier say,
"Every tank in my camp
Has that UAW stamp
And I'm UAW too, I'm proud to say."

CHORUS:

It's that UAW-CIO makes the army roll and go
Turnin' out the jeeps and tanks, the airplanes ev'ry day
It's that UAW-CIO makes that army roll and go
Puts wheels on the USA

(Repeat after each verse)

I was there when the union came to town.
I was there when old Henry Ford went down.
I was standing by the Gate Four
When I heard the people roar:
"They ain't gonna kick the auto workers around."

I ws there on that cold December day,
When we heard about Pearl Harbor far away.
I was down in Cadillac Square
When the union rallied there
To put those plans for pleasure cars away.

There'll be a union label in Berlin,
When the union boys in uniform march in.
And rolling in the ranks
There'll be UAW tanks
Roll Hitler out and roll the union in.


Find the mp3. You won't regret it. Seeger sings lead.

[ETA]

Found the mp3!!!

Click the image on the upper right hand of the page

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How bout Black Sabbath's 'War Pigs'..always good to fire up the anti-war angst.
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Unionist, now what did you have to go doing that for?

I forgot this beautiful Canadian song by Moxy Früvous, from Bargainville: The Gulf War Song

What makes a person so poisonous righteous
That they'd think less of anyone who just disagreed?
She's just a pacifist, he's just a patriot
If I said you were crazy, would you have to fight me?

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Since unionist has injected a dose of irony into this thread (or at least I hope that's what he was doing), I think it's time for the recruiting show song from Oh! What a Lovely War. In the movie version, the show opens with a bevy of beauties singing Your King and Country Want You (which was actually a real recruiting song):

quote:
We've watched you playing cricket and every kind of game,
At football, golf and polo you men have made your name.
But now your country calls you to play your part in war.
And no matter what befalls you
We shall love you all the more.
So come and join the forces
As your fathers did before.

Oh, we don't want to lose you but we think you ought to go.
For your King and your country both need you so.
We shall want you and miss you
But with all our might and main
We shall cheer you, thank you, bless you
When you come home again.


Then out comes the vamp (Maggie Smith) with the pre-feminist number I'll Make a Man of You:

quote:
The Army and the Navy need attention,
The outlook isn't healthy you'll admit,
But I've got a perfect dream of a new recruiting scheme,
Which I think is absolutely it.
If only other girls would do as I do
I believe that we could manage it alone,
For I turn all suitors from me but the sailor and the Tommy,
I've an army and a navy of my own.

On Sunday I walk out with a Soldier,
On Monday I'm taken by a Tar,
On Tuesday I'm out with a baby Boy Scout,
On Wednesday a Hussar;
On Thursday a gang oot wi' a Scottie,
On Friday, the Captain of the crew;
But on Saturday I'm willing, if you'll only take the shilling,
To make a man of any one of you.

I teach the tenderfoot to face the powder,
That gives an added lustre to my skin,
And I show the raw recruit how to give a chaste salute,
So when I'm presenting arms he's falling in.
It makes you almost proud to be a woman.
When you make a strapping soldier of a kid.
And he says 'You put me through it and I didn't want to do it
But you went and made me love you so I did.'

On Sunday I walk out with a Bo'sun.
On Monday a Rifleman in green,
On Tuesday I choose a 'sub' in the 'Blues',
On Wednesday a Marine;
On Thursday a Terrier from Tooting,
On Friday a Midshipman or two,
But on Saturday I'm willing, if you'll only take the shilling,
To make a man of any one of you.



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[/QUOTE]
quote:
Originally posted by Yossarian:
I recall hearing (FWIW) that "For What It's Worth" was inspired by an anti-war rally...

Looks like we're both wrong. From Wikipedia:

quote:
While the song has come to symbolize worldwide turbulence and confrontational feelings regarding events during the 1960s (particularly the Vietnam War), Stills reportedly wrote the song in reaction to escalating unrest between law enforcement and young club-goers relating to the closing of Pandora's Box, a club on Los Angeles, California's Sunset Strip.

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War huh yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing.

- Edwin Starr


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posted 30 March 2006 12:31 AM      Profile for rici     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
One more, before I go to bed: Malvina Reynolds (music by Pete Seeger):

quote:

I want to go to Andorra, Andorra, Andorra
I want to go to Andorra, it's a place that I adore
They spent four dollars and ninety cents
On armaments and their defence
Did you ever hear of such confidence?
Andorra, hip, hurrah

Well, it's true... although it's also a joke. But this is also true, although it's not a song: Military of Costa Rica (wikipedia)

quote:
On December 1, 1948, president José Figueres Ferrer of Costa Rica abolished the country's army after victory in the civil war in that year. In a ceremony in the Cuartel Bellavista, Figueres broke a wall with a mallet symbolizing the end of Costa Rica's military spirit. In 1949 the abolition of the military was introduced in the Article 12 of the 1949 Constitution.

The budget previously dedicated to the military now is dedicated to security, education and culture; the country maintains armed National Guard forces. The museum Museo Nacional de Costa Rica was placed in the Cuartel Bellavista as a symbol of commitment to culture.

In 1986, president Oscar Arias Sánchez declared December 1 as the Día de la Abolición del Ejército (Military abolition day) with law #8115.

Unlike its neighbours, Costa Rica has not endured a civil war since.



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Here's a very pragmatic anti-war song:

The 4-Skins - "I Don't Wanna Die"

I don't wanna die in World War 3.
I don't wanna take one for the team.
I don't wanna hear that 4-minute warning.
I just wanna have brekky when I get up in the morning.

I, I, I don't wanna die.
I, I, I don't wanna die.
You can ask the reason why,
and I won't tell a lie.
I, I, I don't wanna die.
I, I, I don't wanna die.

I dont wanna die in a frontline army.
I think the generals are all barmy.
I'd rather go and live in a cave.
I ain't gonna fight cause I ain't brave.

I, I, I don't wanna die.
I, I, I don't wanna die.
You can ask the reason why,
and I won't tell a lie.
I, I, I don't wanna die.
I, I, I don't wanna die.

I don't wanna die in a nuclear war.
I'd rather stay home and wipe the floor.
I don't wanna get blown to bits.
I like my life and the way it is.

I, I, I don't wanna die.
I, I, I don't wanna die.
You can ask the reason why,
and I won't tell a lie.
I, I, I don't wanna die.
I, I, I don't wanna die.
I, I, I dont wanna die.

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posted 30 March 2006 01:16 AM      Profile for Wee Mousie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Songs protesting war is hardly a modern phenomena. They have been around probably as long as war.

Even the songwriters have fought with the same songs.

For example:

The Irish traditional anti-war and anti-recruiting song Johnny I Hardly Knew Ye was turned into the pro-war song When Johnny Comes Marching Home during the American Civil War.


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I am very fond of Stephen Fearing's "Man o' War" as well as a lot of Eric Bogle. For Bogle my favourite isn't "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" though that is a fine song. I like "Green Fields of France" so much better. It's the verse that says

Ah, young Willie McBride, I can't help wonder why,
Did all those who lay here really know why they died?
And did they believe when they answered the call,
Did they really believe that this war would end war?
For the sorrow, the suffering, the glory, the pain,
The killing and dying were all done in vain,
For, young Willie McBride, it all happened again,
And again and again and again and again

It gets to me every time I hear it.


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I don't know if this qualifies, but here goes.

quote:
The Royal Regiment of Gurkas, an Indian regiment, this is in the old days, used to march along the road singing just a little babble. And no one knew what it was. Someone eventually got the words, and found that this is actually what they were singing - John Hasted

Lying in Calcutta Gutter

Lying in Calcutta gutter, leading very happy life
Rising early in the morning,
See Britannia rule the wave
Oosh-ka-da-ra good times coming
Queen Victoria very nice man
Rising early in the morning
Britons never shall be slave

For five years you love my daughter
Now you go to Blighty, sahib
May the ship that carry you over
Sink to the bottom of the briny wave


Note the use of 'babble' in the intro to the song.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Phil Ochs 'Draft Dodger Rag', one of his most famous anti-war tunes.

Then there's Malvina Reynolds with "The Rand Hymn'.

Way back when, during the Vietnam war, I used to play 'Draft Dodger Rag' on a regular basis. Once I played it in a bar in Squamish, and during the playing there was a couple over by the wall who almost fell off their chairs laughing.

I spoke with them later, and it turned out they were from Los Angeles and were flabbergasted by hearing someone sing the song fifteen years out of date, and a couple of thousand miles from home.

I also played with a band in those days, and we did 'Draft Dodger Rag' at a local legion gig.

Got fired.

Oh well, it was worth it.

Edited for spelling.

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I like 'Succexy' by Metric...

Lonesome for no one when
the room was empty and
war as we knew it was obsolete
Nothing could beat complete denial

All we do is talk, sit, switch screens
as the homeland plans enemies

All we do is talk, static split screens
As the homeland plans enemies

Invasion’s so succexxy

Let’s drink to the military
The glass is empty
Faces to fill and cars to feed
Nothing could beat complete denial

All we do is talk, sit, switch screens
As the homeland plans enemies

All we do is talk, static split screens
As the homeland plans enemies

Invasion’s so succexxy

passive attraction, programmed reaction
passive attraction, programmed reaction
action distraction, more information
flesh saturation, lips on a napkin
ass ass ass

where does the time go?
we’re waking up so slowly
days are horizontal lately
out of body, watched from above
out of body, watched from above

passive attraction, programmed reaction
more information, cash masturbation
follow the pattern- the hemlines, the headlines
action distraction,faster than fashion
faster than fashion,faster than fashion

Lonesome for no one when
the room was empty and
war as we knew it was obsolete
Nothing could beat denial


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posted 30 March 2006 07:30 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
And when we butchered your sons, boys
When we butchered your sons
Have a stick of our gum, boys
Have a stick of our bubble gum
We own half the world, oh say can you see
And the name for our profits is democracy
So, like it or not, you will have to be free
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World

from: Phil Ochs Lyrics - Cops Of The World

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Yes, Ochs, my cure for Bob Dylan.


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posted 30 March 2006 07:36 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Yossarian:
I like music, and I hate war, but I don't like a lot of antiwar songs. In general, I think that pop songs about social issues tend to boil the ideas down to the point of insipitude. St.-Marie's song is an example. I don't share her absolute pacifism, and while she's right to emphasize individual responsibility, she ends up downplaying governmental and social responsibility.

Oh I agree actually about Buffie. But it is just typical that we do deep political analysis on songs.


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posted 30 March 2006 07:57 AM      Profile for NWOntarian   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I heard this at a folk music festival a couple years ago. It's free to download from the artists' website.

Trevor Mills - Military Governmental Contract

quote:

I'm going to build an army, I'll tell you how it's done
You'll see me on the news with all the victories I've won
I'll get a call from the president and a big fat juicy raise
crime don't pay 'bout half as much as a military government contract

A military governmental contract
Ask him will he care he's dumber than a thumbtack
Private Bill is very blind without his contacts
And that's just fine with me
So I'll send him off to a foreign land
Put a great big weapon in his hand
Let him kill without reprimand
On a military governmental contract

All I have got to do is just desensitize the boys
Show them scenes of hatred and then give'em guns for toys
I'll make it so their families do not give a damn for them
So there's left to do but die on a military governmental contract

A military governmental contract
Ask him will he care he's dumber than a thumbtack
Private Bill is very blind without his contacts
And that's just fine with me
So I'll send him off to a foreign land
Put a great big weapon in his hand
Let him kill without reprimand
On a military governmental contract

I'll buy them all Nintendos loaded up with Doom
So they'll learn to discharge their loads when entering a room
I'll feed them up on blood and guts so they will not have to fear
When faced with others violent deaths on a military governmental contract

A military governmental contract
Ask him will he care he's dumber than a thumbtack
Private Bill is very blind without his contacts
And that's just fine with me
So I'll send him off to a foreign land
Put a great big weapon in his hand
Let him kill without reprimand
On a military governmental contract

I'll make sure they have T.V.s with a personal satellite dish
So they can watch at any time whatever shows I wish
That's how I will show them what happens in the world
I'll redefine reality for a military governmental contract

A military governmental contract
Ask him will he care he's dumber than a thumbtack
Private Bill is very blind without his contacts
And that's just fine with me
So I'll send him off to a foreign land
Put a great big weapon in his hand
Let him kill without reprimand
On a military governmental contract

Take a look around you at home and far away
The world I have described here is already on the way
It may take generations to undo all I have done
That's just fine, gives me lots of time for a military governmental contract

A military governmental contract
Ask him will he care he's dumber than a thumbtack
Private Bill is very blind without his contacts
And that's just fine with me
So I'll send him off to a foreign land
Put a great big weapon in his hand
Let him kill without reprimand
On a military governmental contract



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More Phil Ochs: "The War is Over"

quote:
Silent Soldiers on a silver screen
Framed in fantasies and dragged in dream
Unpaid actors of the mystery
The mad director knows that freedom will not make you free
And what's this got to do with me

I declare the war is over
It's over, it's over

Drums are drizzling on a grain of sand
Fading rhythms of a fading land
Prove your courage in the proud parade
Trust your leaders where mistakes are almost never made
And they're afraid that I'm afraid

I'm afraid the war is over
It's over, it's over

Angry artists painting angry signs
Use their vision just to blind the blind
Poisoned players of a grizzly game
One is guilty and the other gets the point to blame
Pardon me if I refrain

I declare the war is over
It's over, it's over

So do your duty, boys, and join with pride
Serve your country in her suicide
Find the flags so you can wave goodbye
But just before the end even treason might be worth a try
This country is to young to die

I declare the war is over
It's over, it's over

One-legged veterans will greet the dawn
And they're whistling marches as they mow the lawn
And the gargoyles only sit and grieve
The gypsy fortune teller told me that we'd been deceived
You only are what you believe

I believe the war is over
It's over, it's over



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posted 30 March 2006 08:42 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Carter:
Since unionist has injected a dose of irony into this thread (or at least I hope that's what he was doing)

Not exactly irony. The thread is about opposing war, and the only way to oppose the war launched by the Nazis and their allies was to annihilate them militarily. Turning the other cheek didn't work out that well.


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posted 30 March 2006 08:44 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This one always tears me up, especially the Joan Baez version - Joan Baez is one of my favourite folk singers:
A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall

I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken,
I saw guns and sharp swords in the hands of young children,
And it's a hard, and it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard,
And it's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.


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posted 30 March 2006 08:48 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
With God On Our Side

So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war.

ETA: if edit our posts and just include one stanza or two of songs, this thread will be easier for those of us on dialup to download. Hint, hint.

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posted 30 March 2006 09:20 AM      Profile for Clog-boy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Dunno if this one qualifies, but how about Status Quo - You're in the army now...?

quote:

A vacation in a foreign land
Uncle Sam does the best he can
You're in the army now
Oh, oh, you're in the army now

Now you remember what the draftsman said
Nothing to do all day but stay in bed
You're in the army now
Oh, oh, you're in the army now

You be the hero of the neighborhood
Nobody knows that you left for good
You're in the army now
Oh, oh, you're in the army now

Smiling faces as you wait to land
But once you get there no one gives a damn
You're in the army now
Oh, oh, you're in the army now

Hand grenades flying over your head
Missiles flying over your head
If you want to survive get out of bed
You're in the army now
Oh, oh, you're in the army now

Shots ring out in the dad of night
The sergeant calls (stand up and fight)
You're in the army now
Oh, oh, you're in the army now

You've got your orders better shoot on sight
Your finger's on the trigger
But it don't seem right
You're in the army now
Oh, oh, you're in the army now
You're in the army now
Oh, oh, you're in the army now

Night is falling and you just can't see
Is this illusion or reality
You're in the army now
Oh, oh, you're in the army now
You're in the army now
Oh, oh, you're in the army now

Oh, oh, you're in the army now



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posted 30 March 2006 01:22 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Cueball:
Oh I agree actually about Buffie. But it is just typical that we do deep political analysis on songs.
I guess one of my thoughts was that pop songs are generally better at conveying emotions and impressions than complicated ideas. That being the case, there can of course be (and in fact are) many great songs about the horror of war, and a few about its absurdity.

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posted 31 March 2006 12:53 PM      Profile for asthma_hound     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I'd also add a couple of songs I heard originally on Simon and Garfunkel albums - "Last Night I Had the Strangest Dream", and also "The Sun is Burning". Something a little more recent than that would be "Holiday" by Green Day, which has great lyrics and makes you wanna jump up and down
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Thanks. After i get moved, I'll have to unpack my S&G LP's and have a listen. I've forgotten the lyrics, will look for them online.

I was listening to a CCR tape, and although I didn't get the full lyrics, "Fortunate Son" sounds like an antiwar song.


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e e cummings:
quote:
i sing of Olaf glad and big
whose warmest heart recoiled at war:
a conscientious object-or

his wellbelov'd colonel(trig
westpointer most succinctly bred)
took erring Olaf soon in hand;
but--though an host of overjoyed
noncoms(first knocking on the head
him)do through icy waters roll
that helplessness which others stroke
with brushes recently employed
anent this muddy toiletbowl,
while kindred intellects evoke
allegiance per blunt instruments--
Olaf(being to all intents
a corpse and wanting any rag
upon what God unto him gave)
responds,without getting annoyed
"I will not kiss your fucking flag"

straightway the silver bird looked grave
(departing hurriedly to shave)

but--though all kinds of officers
(a yearning nation's blueeyed pride)
their passive prey did kick and curse
until for wear their clarion
voices and boots were much the worse,
and egged the firstclassprivates on
his rectum wickedly to tease
by means of skilfully applied
bayonets roasted hot with heat--
Olaf(upon what were once knees)
does almost ceaselessly repeat
"there is some shit I will not eat"

our president,being of which
assertions duly notified
threw the yellowsonofabitch
into a dungeon,where he died

Christ(of His mercy infinite)
i pray to see;and Olaf,too

preponderatingly because
unless statistics lie he was
more brave than me:more blond than you.



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First song that came to mind would have been Masters of War as well but who can forget Wilco!

War on War

It's a war on war
It's a war on war
It's a war on war
It's a war on war
It's a war on war
It's a war on war
It's a war on war
There's a war on

You're gonna lose
You have to lose
You have to learn how to die

Let's watch the miles flying by
Let's watch the miles flying by
You are not my typewriter
But you could be my demon
Moving forward through flaming doors

You have to lose
You have to learn how to die
If you want to want to be alive

Okay?

You have to lose
You have to lose
You have to learn how to die
If you want to want to be alive

You have to die
You have to die
You have to learn how to die
If you want to want to be alive

Okay?

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posted 31 March 2006 11:58 PM      Profile for mamitalinda   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Well, I have resisted long enough- I must put in a plug for my dear mama's CD.

My mother, Catriona Talbot, along with Rose Vaughan and Sandy Greenberg, make up Clearing By Noon, and they have just finished recording/mixing their first CD called Singing for Peace. All proceeds from the album will go to the Halifax Peace Coalition and the Voice of Women for Peace.

On the album are, among others:
-Universal Soldier
-Johnny I Hardly Knew You
-Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven
-The Strangest Dream
-Where have all the Flowers Gone
-Peace Call (a little known Woody Guthrie song
and a number of orginals by the members of Clearing by Noon

The CD is scheduled for release on May 13th, but folks can pre-order copies by making a cheque for $20 out to Clearing by Noon, and sending it to:
Clearing by Noon, c/o Catriona Talbot
74 St. Margaret's Bay Rd.
Halifax, NS
B3N 1K2

As I mentioned, proceeds are going to two very good causes, so buy early and buy often.

And now back to your regularly scheduled peace song banter...

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posted 01 April 2006 12:05 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Originally posted by mamitalinda:
Well, I have resisted long enough- I must put in a plug for my dear mama's CD.

Sounds good. Is it an album of folk music? Bluegrass?


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Folk would be a fairly good catch-all to describe the style of music, but each song has its own "thing going on."

I get to hear the final version tomorrow morning, and I can't wait!

They got some stellar guest musicians to play on it as well: Dave Carmichael plays bass and Gordon Stobbe plays fiddle and mandolin on many of the tracks. Cheryl Gaudet performs a song that she co-wrote with Rose Vaughan.

As an aside, the performers' three daughters also do back-up on a couple of tracks, which was loads of fun.

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posted 01 April 2006 12:38 AM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
I was listening to a CCR tape, and although I didn't get the full lyrics, "Fortunate Son" sounds like an antiwar song.

Good song. Ironically, it also fits well in a Vietnam movie. I can't remember what movie. For some reason I think they play it in one of the Vietnam scenes of Forest Gump.


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posted 01 April 2006 12:54 AM      Profile for Pogo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by JPG:
How bout Black Sabbath's 'War Pigs'..always good to fire up the anti-war angst.

My choice.

Also like "We'll meet again", but of course Slim Pickens has to be riding a A-Bomb for it to be truly effective.


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posted 01 April 2006 01:11 AM      Profile for Sisyphus2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Here's one for the books,

I can't remember anything
Can't tell if this is true or dream
Deep down inside i feel to scream
This terrible silence stops me

Now that the war is through with me
I'm waking up i can not see
That there is not much left of me
Nothing is real but pain now

Hold my breath as i wish for death
Oh please god,wake me

Back in the womb its much too real
In pumps life that i must feel
But can't look forward to reveal
Look to the time when i'll live

Fed through the tube that sticks in me
Just like a wartime novelty
Tied to machines that make me be
Cut this life off from me

Hold my breath as i wish for death
Oh please god,wake me
Now the world is gone i'm just one
Oh god,help me hold my breath as i wish for death
Oh please god help me

Darkness imprisoning me
All that i see
Absolute horror
I cannot live
I cannot die
Trapped in myself
Body my holding cell

Landmine has taken my sight
Taken my speech
Taken my hearing
Taken my arms
Taken my legs
Taken my soul
Left me with life in hell

Metallica- "One"


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Also like "We'll meet again", but of course Slim Pickens has to be riding a A-Bomb for it to be truly effective.

Is that a Johnny Cash song? i just downloaded a Cash song by that name. Never heard of it and the reference to riding an A-Bomb is from some movie I believe, right?

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"If you don't get the president of the United States on that phone, you know what's going to happen to you?"

"What?"

"You're gonna have to answer to the Coca Cola Company"


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"We'll Meet Again", as sung by WWII-era British singer Vera Lynn, plays at the end of the film Dr. Strangelove -- I don't want to give away the ending, but that's where the actor Slim Pickens riding a nuclear bomb comes into it.

As a reference to the movie, the Byrds also do a cover of the song as the last track on their debut album Mr. Tambourine Man.


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I see. I've seen references to the nuclear-bomb riding scene before, such as in Armageddon. Never knew what movie it came from until now. Thanks. I'll have to look for that original version of the song too.

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Hey Hey by the Descendents:

Hey hey what do you say?
About our state of affairs
Hey hey what do you know?
Are you ready to go?
Go! Go! Go! Go!
If you think that everything's ok
then go on home and lock your brain away
Are you ready? Are you ready?
Are you ready? Ready!
Hey hey what do you say?
About our state of affairs
Hey hey what are you for?
Are you ready for war?
Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
Now's the time to defend
your worthless life!
Are you going to kill, or be killed?
Are you ready? Are you ready?
Are you ready? Ready! To die?


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Bumping for Boom Boom, who wanted to know a bit more about the Singing for Peace album by Clearing by Noon.

I just went back up to my previous posts and added links to Clearing by Noon and some of the artists on Singing for Peace.

BTW, I just heard the final mix, and in my completely biased opinion, it passed the hair-standing-up-on-the-arm test.


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quote:
Originally posted by Yossarian:
"We'll Meet Again", as sung by WWII-era British singer Vera Lynn, plays at the end of the film Dr. Strangelove -- I don't want to give away the ending, but that's where the actor Slim Pickens riding a nuclear bomb comes into it. . . .[/i].

This is the original bomb ride starring character-actor Slim Pickens as Major T. J. "King" Kong in Stanley Kubrick’s 1964 black comedy Dr. Strangelove, or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.

Cambridge Galleries' 2004 Public Art Project was Bomb Ride by Anitra Hamilton. Bomb Ride was a decommissioned and disarmed aerial bomb, painted with apparently carnivalesque colours (the colours actually allude to the those of military insignia) and mounted on an automated children's riding amusement, like those found at the local supermarket or shopping mall.

Put a loonie in the machine and you can ride it for three minutes. Bomb Ride was installed in the public concourse between the library and the gallery for one calendar year.

Bomb Ride was made possible by the support of the Ontario Arts Council's Chalmers Arts Fellowship.


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Originally posted by mamitalinda:
BTW, I just heard the final mix, and in my completely biased opinion, it passed the hair-standing-up-on-the-arm test.

Much appreciated. I'll be ordering a copy.


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quote:
Originally posted by Wee Mousie:

This is the original bomb ride starring character-actor Slim Pickens as Major T. J. "King" Kong in Stanley Kubrick’s 1964 black comedy Dr. Strangelove, or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.


Thing is, rumour has it, that slim, often credited with a brilliant comic performance parodying military manners, actually played the roll straight, unaware that he was to be a comic bafoon.


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quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:

Much appreciated. I'll be ordering a copy.

Aw thanks, Boom Boom. You have warmed the cockles of my dirty hippie heart.


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Originally posted by mamitalinda:
Aw thanks, Boom Boom. You have warmed the cockles of my dirty hippie heart.

You're welcome. How does a hippie heart get dirty? I'm an old hippie, but very clean.


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Point well taken. My hippie heart is probably fairly clean, as I am only 25 and it hasn't yet had time to object to the embarrassing amounts of sugar and fat I have been known to feed it.
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Michael Franti and Spearhead - Bomb the World (armageddon version is here!)
We can chase down all our enemies
Bring them to their knees
We can bomb the world to pieces
But we can't bomb it into peace
Whoa we may even find a solution
To hunger and disease
We can bomb the world to pieces
But we can't bomb it into peace
Rest of the lyrics

For those with bandwidth:
Super Furry Animals - Not the End of the World
MUSIC VIDEO!
Its really good animation. Lyrics, not so much going on there. ha. Seriously the video is anti-war.


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(I LOVE this thread)

I read and read and nobody mentioned Joni Mitchell's "The Fiddle and the Drum"
I loved this song so much because she sang it acapella. Very dramatic.

And so once again
My dear Johnny my dear friend
And so once again you are fightin' us all
And when I ask you why
You raise your sticks and cry, and I fall
Oh, my friend
How did you come
To trade the fiddle for the drum

You say I have turned
Like the enemies you've earned
But I can remember
All the good things you are
And so I ask you please
Can I help you find the peace and the star
Oh, my friend
What time is this
To trade the handshake for the fist

And so once again
Oh, America my friend
And so once again
You are fighting us all
And when we ask you why
You raise your sticks and cry and we fall
Oh, my friend
How did you come
To trade the fiddle for the drum

You say we have turned
Like the enemies you've earned
But we can remember
All the good things you are
And so we ask you please
Can we help you find the peace and the star
Oh my friend
We have all come
To fear the beating of your drum
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The first song that came to my mind that always made me feel so.. like that other poster said about the hair standing up on her arms. I know, I know... sung by Peter, Paul and Mary (written by Pete Seger)..but they were pivotal during the sixties singing anti-war songs; there are so many that come to mind; but this one was called "Where Have All the Flowers Gone"...remember? I'll try to find the lyrics. I can't imagine it not moving anyone. I never heard Pete sing it but I would love to have a copy.


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Unless I missed it, not a mention of Danny Boy.
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Originally posted by erroneousrebelrouser:
I read and read and nobody mentioned Joni Mitchell's "The Fiddle and the Drum"
I loved this song so much because she sang it acapella. Very dramatic.

I wish I had posted this. I still have the original LP recording. It's great, especially the song you mentioned. Thanks!


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I have these images of anti-war songs popping in my head.."Wooden Ships" both by Jefferson Airplane and Crosby, Stills and Nash. It's like a song protesting for peace.."I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side there's just one thing I've got to know can you tell me please, who won?"

The Airplane wrote and recorded a lot of songs back in the late sixties and early seventies; "Volunteers" was a sound from that time.

Look what's happening out in the streets
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Hey I'm dancing down the streets
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Ain't it amazing all the people I meet
Got a revolution Got to revolution
One generation got old
One generation got soul
This generation got no destination to hold
Pick up the cry
Hey now it's time for you and me
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Come on now we're marching to the sea
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Who will take it from you
We will and who are we
We are volunteers of America

And one of the best all time Airplane songs written by Paul Kantner...


"War Movie"

In nineteen hundred and seventy-five all the
people rose from the countryside to move against
you government man d'you understand locked
together hand in hand all thru this unsteady land--
gonna roll roll roll the rock around roll roll roll the rock
around lift the rock out of the ground

at the Battle of Forever Plains all my people hand
in hand in hand in the rain the laser way won the day
without one single living soul going down the government
troops were circled in the sun gun found themselves on the
run... from our nation the rock is raised no need to hide from
the other side now... transformation

call high to the constellation headquarters call high to the
most high directors send out the transporting systems and
send out the sun finders
thirteen battalion of mind raiders three hundred master
computer killers from great platforms in the mountains
twenty mile lasers & great giant trackers... twenty miles
south now in 1975 all my people rose from the countryside until we
meet again and touch our hands together in another land
until we meet again & see each others minds we
three have met again and touched our hands talking of
Napoleon in the garden we will muffle the drums tomorrow
mornin gonna roll roll roll the rock around gonna roll roll
roll the rock around lift the rock out of the ground


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Originally posted by erroneousrebelrouser:
...but this one was called "Where Have All the Flowers Gone"...remember? I'll try to find the lyrics.

Oh, goodness. I have about six recordings of thsi song, four on old LP records, two on old cassette tapes. I think four of the recordings are by Pete Seeger, one by Malvina Reynolds, the other by Peter Paul and Mary.

WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE
words and music by Pete Seeger

Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the flowers gone?
Girls have picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the young girls gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the young girls gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the young girls gone?
Taken husbands every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the young men gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the young men gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the young men gone?
Gone for soldiers every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the soldiers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the soldiers gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the soldiers gone?
Gone to graveyards every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the graveyards gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the graveyards gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the graveyards gone?
Covered with flowers every one
When will we ever learn?
When will we ever learn?

ETA: sorry for the length of this post; posting just one stanza of the song didn't make sense.

Readers of this thread may be interested in Arlo Guthrie's (fantastic) website: http://www.arlo.net/

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I can't believe I didn't think of Danny Boy, either. It's one of the saddest songs around; didn't they sing that at Princess Di's funeral? I cried and cried. Boom I love that song, too. I see you started this thread. I might be up all night!

Sting (Gordon Sumner) has written a lot of songs that could be placed snugly in this thread. Especially this one, one of my all time favorites
from him.


"Children's Crusade"

Young men, soldiers, Nineteen Fourteen
Marching through countries they'd never seen
Virgins with rifles, a game of charades
All for a Children's Crusade

Pawns in the game are not victims of chance
Strewn on the fields of Belgium and France
Poppies for young men, death's bitter trade
All of those young lives betrayed

The children of England would never be slaves
They're trapped on the wire and dying in waves
The flower of England face down in the mud
And stained in the blood of a whole generation

Corpulent generals safe behind lines
History's lessons drowned in red wine
Poppies for young men, death's bitter trade
All of those young lives betrayed
All for a Children's Crusade

The children of England would never be slaves
They're trapped on the wire and dying in waves
The flower of England face down in the mud
And stained in the blood of a whole generation

Midnight in Soho, Nineteen Eighty-four
Fixing in doorways, opium slaves
Poppies for young men, such bitter trade
All of those young lives betrayed
All for a Children's Crusade


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I don't believe the Canadian band, "The Guess Who" meant for it to be an anti-American song or about the Vietnam war. But American hippies and all ages thought it was, and it appealed to them at the time. Canadian's still request the song on radio and rare performances by former band members.

Bachman & Cummings

American woman gonna mess your mind
American woman, she gonna mess your mind
American woman gonna mess your mind
American woman gonna mess your mind
Say A,
Say M,
Say E,
Say R,
Say I,
C,
Say A,
Say N,
American woman gonna mess your mind
American woman gonna mess your mind
American woman gonna mess your mind

American woman, stay away from me
American woman, mama let me be
Don’t come hangin’ around my door
I don’t wanna see your face no more
I got more important things to do
Than spend my time growin’ old with you
Now woman, I said stay away,
American woman, listen what I say.

American woman, get away from me
American woman, mama let me be
Don’t come knockin’ around my door
Don’t wanna see your shadow no more
Coloured lights can hypnotize
Sparkle someone else’s eyes
Now woman, I said get away
American woman, listen what I say.

American woman, said get away
American woman, listen what I say
Don’t come hangin’ around my door
Don’t wanna see your face no more
I don’t need your war machines
I don’t need your ghetto scenes

Coloured lights can hypnotize
Sparkle someone else’s eyes
Now woman, get away from me
American woman, mama let me be.


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Do you granola-chompers call this a debate? Where's the room for dissent? I'll post this lyric, and we'll see how free speech is tolerated on babble!
quote:
There's A Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere
Elton Britt

There's a star spangled banner waving somewhere
in a distant land so many miles away
Only Uncle sam's great hero's get to go there
where I wish that I could live someday.

I see Lincoln, Custer,[no, really] Washington and Perry,
Nathan Hale and Collin Kelly too,
There's a star spangled banner waving somewhere
Waving ov'er the land of hero's brave and true.

In this war with it's mad schemes and destructions,
of our country fair and our sweet liberty
by the mad dictators, leaders of corruption,
can't the U.S. use a Mountain boy like me.

God gave me the right to be a free American,
for that precious right I'd gladly die,
there's a star spangled banner waving somewhere
that is where I want to live when I die.

Though I realize I'm crippled, that is true sir,
Please don't judge my courage by my twisted leg,
let me show my Uncle Sam what I can do,sir,
let me help to bring the Axis down a peg.

If I do some great deed, I will be a hero,
and a hero brave is what I want to be,
There's a star spangled banner waving somewhere,
In that heaven there should be a place for me.



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A longer stretch for lyrics taken to be against the US's imperialist adventure: Bells of Rhymney. It wasn't about war at all but from a poem about a Welsh miners' strike. Seegar thought up the tune here in Montreal.

The line 'throw the vandals in court, sing the bells of Newport' is very, very flexible. It could fit Enron, for ex. Haliburton, of course.


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Originally posted by goyanamasu:
A longer stretch for lyrics taken to be against the US's imperialist adventure: Bells of Rhymney. It wasn't about war at all but from a poem about a Welsh miners' strike. Seegar thought up the tune here in Montreal.

Seeger's version is the standard against which all others much be measured, but the Byrds did a good version as well. I have original LP recordings of each.


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Granola crunchers LOL he's got me pegged. There's so much hippie in me there's no room for dissent. Anyway I don't think that I should be so silly to think that Fidel posted that song just to hurt my fellings, here on my 2nd day of being a rabbler! Just before he posted that I was going to post to Boom and everybody this thread rocks so much I heart everyone! LOL

Like I said I can't help where I'm from, but I know how I feel. And I was feeling almost every single person in this thread. For real. ! Even a Joseph Conrad admiring, chess playing, spirit loving, pipe smoking, and Anna Karenina reading scholar like al-Qa'bong! Thanks for helping me lighten up.

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I vaguely remember, but Seegar and Dick Gaughan are on the CD now, so it wipes away sound memories.
Here we have the lyrics. But one note. In the Fanon book, Wretched of the Earth there is a good essay on how all messages are read in terms of the rebellion, revolt, revolution when underway.

Bells of Rhymney
Idris Davies / Pete Seeger

Oh what will you give me
Say the sad bells of Rhymney
Is there hope for the future
Say the brown bells of Merthyr
Who made the mine owner
Say the black bells of Rhondda
And who robbed the miner
Say the grim bells of Blaina

They will plunder willy-nilly
Say the bells of Caerphilly
They have fangs, they have teeth
Shout the loud bells of Neath
Even God is uneasy
Say the moist bells of Swansea
And what will you give me
Say the sad bells of Rhymney

Throw the vandals in court
Say the bells of Newport
All would be well if if if if if if
Say the green bells of Cardiff
Why so worried, sisters, why
Sang the silver bells of Wye
And what will you give me
Say the sad bells of Rhymney

As sung by The Ian Campbell Folk Group


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That's beautiful, Goyanamasu. I can't forget Joan Baez; she deserves mentioning here. Songs like, "All the Weary Mothers of the Earth", "Cambodia" and "Song of Bangladesh."

This one gives me chills. Another one by Sting.

We Work The Black Seam -

This place has changed for good
Your economic theory said it would
It's hard for us to understand
We can't give up our jobs the way we should
Our blood has stained the coal
We tunneled deep inside the nation's soul
We matter more than pounds and pence
Your economic theory makes no sense
One day in a nuclear age
They may understand our rage
They build machines that they can't control
And bury the waste in a great big hole
Power was to become cheap and clean
Grimy faces were never seen
But deadly for twelve thousand years is carbon fourteen
We work the black seam together
The seam lies underground
Three million years of pressure packed it down
We walk through ancient forest lands
And light a thousand cities with our hands
Your dark satanic mills
Have made redundant all our mining skills
You can't exchange a six inch band
For all the poisoned streams in Cumberland
One day in a nuclear age
They may understand our rage
They build machines that they can't control
And bury the waste in a great big hole
Power was to become cheap and clean
Grimy faces were never seen
But deadly for twelve thousand years is carbon fourteen
We work the black seam together
Our conscious lives run deep
You cling onto your mountain while we sleep
This way of life is part of me
The is no price so only let me be
And should the children weep
The turning world will sing their souls to sleep
When you have sunk without a trace
The universe will suck me into place
One day in a nuclear age
They may understand our rage
They build machines that they can't control
And bury the waste in a great big hole
Power was to become cheap and clean
Grimy faces were never seen
But deadly for twelve thousand years is carbon fourteen
We work the black seam together


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(quote Cougyr)

Waist Deep in the Big Muddy" told the story of a 1942 Army platoon being pushed by a captain to ford a dangerously deep river. The punch line noted that "the big fool" told his men "to push on." It was clearly a parable about the Vietnam War and the "big fool" was obviously Lyndon Johnson. Seeger sang the song for a 1967 Smothers Brothers television show, but CBS censored it off the scheduled program, because Seeger refused to omit the last verse, which tied the song to Vietnam and Johnson. In response to protests against network censorship, CBS finally permitted the song to be sung in full on a January 1968 Smothers Brothers show. After the CBS nightly news (anchored by Walter Cronkite) became sharply critical of the Vietnam War in 1968, antiwar censorship on television was much less a problem. Thus, on a 1969 Smothers Brothers show, Seeger was allowed to sing "Bring Them Home", a direct call for America to bring home its troops and to end the war.
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Isn't it crazy too how they used censorship back then -- it reminds me of that time that Jim Morrison was on the 'reeeally big show' and they wanted him to change one word in his song that he was performing and up until the broadcast he had led them to believe that he was going to leave it out, and then WHAM he nailed it and it was live! My memory is fuzzy about which song because so many tunes are rolling around in my mind with this thread!

Oh, and Boom I saw where you had already mentioned Joan Baez. My bad. I love the fact that you've kept all those LP's -- I wish I had kept all mine. And my brothers, for that fact. But the world of CD's is much better; still something is lost from some of those old bacon popping sounds from the scratches from overplaying and mishandling. It's a shame.


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quote:
We'll Meet Again", as sung by WWII-era British singer Vera Lynn, plays at the end of the film Dr. Strangelove -- I don't want to give away the ending, but that's where the actor Slim Pickens riding a nuclear bomb comes into it.

Just watched Dr. Strangelove and I loved it. It actually kept me entertained throughout the entire film. I just can't figure out why it was called Dr. Strangelove, since he is such a minor character. He's hilarious, with the compusive Nazi salutes (I think that's what was happening, was it?). And the scenes where the President was speaking to the Russian Premier on the phone made me roll on the floor laughing.


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posted 03 April 2006 02:47 AM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Znet's Selected Anti-War Songs includes the lyrics for over 50 songs, including:

Don't Let the Bastards Get You Down, by Kris Kristofferson

Mothers, Daughters, Wives, by Judy Small

When the Ship Comes In, by Bob Dylan


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Pogo
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posted 03 April 2006 03:12 AM      Profile for Pogo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I also have a place for songs that talk the impact of war.

quote:
The Bonny Bonny Banks

O you take the high road
And I'll take the low road
And I'll be in Scotland before ye,
For me and my true love
Will never meet again
On the bonny bonny banks of Loch Lomond



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posted 03 April 2006 04:23 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Soldier boy, made of clay...now an empty shell
Twenty one, only son,
but he served us well.
Bred to kill, not to care.
Do just what we say.
Finished here, bringing death.
He's yours to take away.

-Disposable Heroes Metallica


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Hawkins
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quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:
Do you granola-chompers call this a debate? Where's the room for dissent? I'll post this lyric, and we'll see how free speech is tolerated on babble!

I'll raise you a washington bullet.

quote:
Oh! Mama, Mama look there!
Your children are playing in that street again
Don't you know what happened down there?
A youth of fourteen got shot down there
The Kokane guns of Jamdown Town
The killing clowns, the blood money men
Are shooting those Washington bullets again

As every cell in Chile will tell
The cries of the tortured men
Remember Allende, and the days before,
Before the army came
Please remember Victor Jara,
In the Santiago Stadium,
Es verdad - those Washington Bullets again

And in the Bay of Pigs in 1961,
Havana fought the playboy in the Cuban sun,
For Castro is a colour,
Is a redder than red,
Those Washington bullets want Castro dead
For Castro is the colour...
...That will earn you a spray of lead

Sandinista!

For the very first time ever,
When they had a revolution in Nicaragua,
There was no interference from America
Human rights in America

Well the people fought the leader,
And up he flew...
With no Washington bullets what else could he do?
Sandinista!

'N' if you can find a Afghan rebel
That the Moscow bullets missed
Ask him what he thinks of voting Communist...
...Ask the Dalai Lama in the hills of Tibet,
How many monks did the Chinese get?
In a war-torn swamp stop any mercenary,
'N' check the British bullets in his armoury
Que?
Sandinista!


(sorry boom boom i didn't know what part to cut.)


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I'm discovering there's a lot of (mostly newer) stuff out there I've never heard before. Will have to find them and have a listen.
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I'm surprised that "resist war" by Chris Brown and Kate Fenner hasn't been posted yet. I thought (might have been wrong?) it was one of the critical songs of the 2003 antiwar campaign.

http://www.resistwar.com/

quote:
I will resist war
I will not be seduced by hate
I'll live in service
the only enemy is my own heart
should I decide too late
to challenge the very name
for what is war
but rich spending poor inside a game

it's not just the bullets
it's more than cannons in a field
it's the brutal fabric
sewn by every crooked deal
and the loose threads of justice
pulled for this contest we are in
for what is life
if it takes them to die for us to win

are you listening?
there is a prophet in our midst
it is the corpse
a dead hand curled into a fist
will you ignore
the timeless story of the name
of what war is
and how it all turns out the same

oh truth--what's to be done?
they've made a liar of everyone

and every tyrant
is built a dollar at a time
so here's your hitler--
standing on nickles and on dimes
oh the crimes
being done everyday
and nothing's changing
it's all perpetuating hate

one more lie
one more battle
one more grave
war without end
and if the willing and the brave
and the deaths of millions
has promised no relief
then i take my life
and place it on the side of peace.

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Another one From The Doors

The Unknown Soldier

Wait until the war is over
And we're both a little older
The unknown soldier

Breakfast where the news is read
Television children fed
Unborn living, living, dead
Bullet strikes the helmet's head

And it's all over
For the unknown soldier
It's all over
For the unknown soldier

Hut Hut ho hee up
" " "
Comp'nee - Halt - Preeezent - Arms

Make a grave for the unknown soldier
Nestled in your hollow shoulder
The unknown soldier

Breakfast where the news is read
Television children fed
Bullet strikes the helmet's head

And, it's all over
The war is over
It's all over
The war is over
Well, all over, baby
All over, baby
Oh, over, yeah
All over, baby
Wooooo, hah-hah
All over
" "
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Democracy

Leonard Cohen

It's coming through a hole in the air,
from those nights in Tiananmen Square.
It's coming from the feel
that this ain't exactly real,
or it's real, but it ain't exactly there.
From the wars against disorder,
from the sirens night and day,
from the fires of the homeless,
from the ashes of the gay:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
It's coming through a crack in the wall;
on a visionary flood of alcohol;
from the staggering account
of the Sermon on the Mount
which I don't pretend to understand at all.
It's coming from the silence
on the dock of the bay,
from the brave, the bold, the battered
heart of Chevrolet:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

It's coming from the sorrow in the street,
the holy places where the races meet;
from the homicidal bitchin'
that goes down in every kitchen
to determine who will serve and who will eat.
From the wells of disappointment
where the women kneel to pray
for the grace of God in the desert here
and the desert far away:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

Sail on, sail on
O mighty Ship of State!
To the Shores of Need
Past the Reefs of Greed
Through the Squalls of Hate
Sail on, sail on, sail on, sail on.

It's coming to America first,
the cradle of the best and of the worst.
It's here they got the range
and the machinery for change
and it's here they got the spiritual thirst.
It's here the family's broken
and it's here the lonely say
that the heart has got to open
in a fundamental way:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

It's coming from the women and the men.
O baby, we'll be making love again.
We'll be going down so deep
the river's going to weep,
and the mountain's going to shout Amen!
It's coming like the tidal flood
beneath the lunar sway,
imperial, mysterious,
in amorous array:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

Sail on, sail on ...

I'm sentimental, if you know what I mean
I love the country but I can't stand the scene.
And I'm neither left or right
I'm just staying home tonight,
getting lost in that hopeless little screen.
But I'm stubborn as those garbage bags
that Time cannot decay,
I'm junk but I'm still holding up
this little wild bouquet:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
____________________________________

I couldn't get through a day (almost) without Leonard Cohen. "The Future, (Give me back the Berlin wall give me Stalin and St Paul I've seen the future, brother: it is murder. Things are going to slide, slide in all directions Won't be nothing - Nothing you can measure anymore; The blizzard, the blizzard of the world has crossed the threshold and it's overturned the order of the soul. When they said REPENT REPENT I wonder what they meant) Waiting for the Miracle, Anthem, and Hallelujah." I know that "hallelujah" has been covered by other artists -- I like John Cale's version the best. There's something about his voice that's so raw and beautiful.


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My new favourite peace song is Courage (Diane) by Bob Blue
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hegoru
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Here's another

Devendra Banhart - Heard Sombody Say

I heard somebody say
That the war ended today
But everyone knows it's goin' still

Our motherlands and motherseas
Here's what we believe
It's simple
We don't want to kill

I heard somebody say
That the war ended today
But everyone knows its goin' still

Our motherlands and motherseas
Here's what we believe
It's simple
We don't want to kill

Oh, it's simple
We don't want to kill
Oh, it's simple
We don't want to kill
Oh, it's simple


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posted 03 April 2006 07:47 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Long thread!
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M. Spector
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posted 03 April 2006 08:06 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
And now it's even longer!
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obscurantist
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posted 03 April 2006 08:08 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
We'll meet again,
Don't know where,
Don't know when,
But I know we'll meet again some sunny day....

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posted 03 April 2006 08:08 PM      Profile for Clog-boy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
And as long as nobody closes the thread, it's most likely to become even longer...!
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obscurantist
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posted 03 April 2006 08:09 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Keep smiling through
Just like you
Always do
Till the blue skies
Drive the dark clouds
Far away....

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Now, won't you please say "Hello" to the folks that I know
Tell 'em it won't be long
'Cause they'd be happy to know that when you saw me go
I was singing this song

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obscurantist
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posted 03 April 2006 08:12 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
...we'll meet again,
Don't know where,
Don't know when,
But I know we'll meet again
Some sunny day.

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Aimin' for another 1000-post thread, Yossarian..?
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posted 03 April 2006 08:21 PM      Profile for goyanamasu     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Makshelle the Knife

Oh the shark has
fancy gloves dear
and her teeth are
pearly white.

Just a jack-knife
has Makshelle dear
and she keeps it
out-a-sight.

Die Dreis Grosspfennig Opfer


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Pbththththth!
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