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FabFabian
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posted 27 March 2006 08:03 PM      Profile for FabFabian        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ok, I have been a fan since the Smiths days and lord knows Moz has an opinion on everything, but this one has struck a nerve. For this year's tour he is not appearing in Canada to protest the seal hunt. Now, it is fine and well to have an opinion on the seal hunt, but to punish your fans for a gov't policy that, in the great scheme of things amounts to a hill of beans, is ridiculous. I am so livid about this. This country isn't perfect, but in comparison to the other places he is willing to tour (U.S. U.K.)? He has no problem going to Mexico or Spain, but don't they have bullfighting there? Man do I want to tear strips off of him.
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posted 27 March 2006 08:18 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Link I've always liked the Mozzer's music (okay, so his solo career has been kind of hit-and-miss), but I've never been quite as enthusiastic about the man and his politics.

My sister got me a "Meat is Murder" t-shirt when I was in high school, and I didn't wear it that much, because I didn't agree with the sentiment. Much more disturbingly, there were his periodic mutterings about immigration and multiculturalism in Britain. And then there was his protracted feud and litigation with his former bandmates in the Smiths.

Yeah, I agree that it's a little unfair to punish all of his Canadian fans this way, as much as I respect his right to express his opinions on the seal hunt.


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'lance
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posted 27 March 2006 08:25 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Much more disturbingly, there were his periodic mutterings about immigration and multiculturalism in Britain.

Hadn't heard about this -- do you remember any specifics?

If he has less basic compassion for people than for other animal species, he'll drop somewhat in my estimation.


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aRoused
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posted 27 March 2006 08:26 PM      Profile for aRoused     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anyone got a contact email, or do I have to register for his MySpace or blog page to give that (newly minted) jackass a piece of my mind.

Honestly, Canada and China, riiiight. Whose country's soldiers are being investigated for beating Iraqi boys? Oh, right, Morrissey's. Just a bunch of schoolboy antics, I'm sure, right?


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Agent 204
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posted 27 March 2006 08:29 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 'lance:

Hadn't heard about this -- do you remember any specifics?


A bit here:
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Morrissey was maligned during much of the 1990s by accusations of racism. The accusations were derived from ambiguous lyrics in songs such as "Bengali In Platforms" and "National Front Disco" and the allegation that he'd said "I don't hate Pakistanis, but I dislike them immensely" in his late teens. A trigger for much of the criticism was Morrissey's performance at the first Madness re-union show at Finsbury Park, London where he appeared draped in the Union Jack. Coinciding with the event, he also stated in the press that he was "thrilled that many of his new fans were skinheads". At the concert however, the skinheads who constitute Madness' fanbase booed him off the stage by throwing objects and verbal abuse. However, Scottish journalist Thomas Nimmo, leapt to the defence of the singer, and put forward the idea that "he was attempting to reclaim the flag from the far right."


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posted 27 March 2006 08:36 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 'lance:

Hadn't heard about this -- do you remember any specifics?

If he has less basic compassion for people than for other animal species, he'll drop somewhat in my estimation.


Hmmm. Well, it looks like I might've been hasty there. I was going on the basis of the lyrics in a few of his songs, particularly "Bengali in Platforms", "National Front Disco", and "We'll Let You Know". I'd never been quite sure whether he was being satirical in those songs. A Wikipedia entry provides this summary (which is also at answers.com):

quote:
UK singer Morrissey penned a song called "The National Front Disco", for the Your Arsenal album in 1992. Misinterpretation of this song resulted in much controversy largely instigated by the New Musical Express newspaper with whom he had a running feud. He later cleared it up in the fanzine Sing Your Life (Issue 5) that the song was about someone he knew who was politically naive and had gone to an "NF Disco" (one of Griffin/Anderson's many attempts to win favour with the young during their "Let A Thousand Initiatives Bloom!" phase of the 1980s). This person found himself promptly ostracised by local people and friends equally politically naive. Morrissey had also written the song "Bengali in Platforms" about a teenager from an Indian sub-continent background trying to fit in. Both songs were typical of the singer's 'kitchen sink drama' lyrics focussing on loveless characters alienated from the society they are in.

The NF themselves were mortified with the song, having lambasted both Morrissey and his previous band The Smiths on several occasions on the grounds of Morrissey's sexually ambiguous persona and his support for the Labour Party's Red Wedge project. Morrissey had also supported Amnesty International, Anti-Apartheid, CND and other movements highly antipathetic to the National Front. More recently Morrissey has signed up to the "Unite Against Fascism" group.


If nothing else, it shows the difficulty of successfully conveying irony. I like to think I can recognize satire when I read it / hear it, but I'd been confused about the meaning of Morrissey's lyrics in those songs for nearly 15 years.

(Although, knowing Morrissey, it's quite possible he intended the lyrics to come across in an ambiguous way that would court controversy....)

[Edit -- cross-posted with Agent 204]

[ 27 March 2006: Message edited by: Yossarian ]


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Screaming Lord Byron
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posted 27 March 2006 09:19 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 'lance:

Hadn't heard about this -- do you remember any specifics?

If he has less basic compassion for people than for other animal species, he'll drop somewhat in my estimation.


I remember the situation fairly well - his attitudes towards Asian people in his lyrics were fairly ambiguous, and he's always had a soft spot for rough boys, skinheads and the like. I always took it as an amoral artistic interest in the attitudes and style of those cultures, but I can see how it could easily be interpreted as fetishization of racism and violence.

The Madstock appearance certainly made me cringe, and I've found always found it strange that someone as Irish as Morrissey could fly that bloodstained imperial rag so proudly. A very odd moment from an often unfathomable man.


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