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Hephaestion
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posted 19 February 2005 10:23 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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On Sunday's episode titled "There's Something About Marrying," Springfield legalizes gay marriage to boost tourism and Homer becomes an Internet minister to cash in.

The producers haven't revealed a thing and although a leak outing Patty Bouvier, Marge's chain-smoking, raspy-voiced, man-hating sister has been mentioned so many times it appears factual, we seriously question if this isn't nothing more than a misinformation campaign. So who will be tying the knot this Sunday?


Queer Day turns our gaydar on high...


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Tommy_Paine
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posted 19 February 2005 10:41 AM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I think almost every character has had some kind of comment/situation that would make you think they were gay, or had underlying gay tendancies. Which isn't a commentary on anything, except that they'll go anywhere for a joke.

The one thing you can bank on with "The Simpsons" is that the humour revolves around misdirection. Get the audience thinking in one direction, then take a 90 degree turn. Character and story continuity are items that various writing teams have been willing to throw out the window in the past, I see no reason why they wouldn't in this case.

So it's anyone's guess. Watch and enjoy.


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posted 19 February 2005 03:08 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Be fun if Mr. Burns comes out and isn't into Smithers.
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Michelle
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posted 19 February 2005 07:46 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tommy's right. I mean, who'd have guessed Maggie as the one who shot Mr. Burns?
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posted 19 February 2005 07:55 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh great, thanks for the spoiler, Michelle



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posted 19 February 2005 08:02 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Long thread about the topic HERE.
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posted 20 February 2005 09:22 PM      Profile for spatrioter     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Patty Bouvier.
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posted 20 February 2005 09:31 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bumping to take spoiler off TAT
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Mandos
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posted 20 February 2005 09:32 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Was that a spoiler? Who does this character marry?
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posted 20 February 2005 09:33 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fantastic. I thought Fox would chicken out, but no, they showed it.
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posted 20 February 2005 09:46 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's been so long since I've watched TV, I forget who this character is.

[ 20 February 2005: Message edited by: Mike Keenan ]


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posted 20 February 2005 09:48 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
Fantastic. I thought Fox would chicken out, but no, they showed it.

With a "Viewer Discretion Advised" warning.

Global didn't have one.


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Boom Boom
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posted 20 February 2005 09:50 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There was no "Viewer Discretion" warning when I watched it on Fox. Besides, that warning acts as a magnet.
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Hailey
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posted 20 February 2005 09:50 PM      Profile for Hailey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've watched exactly one episode of the Simpsons. It's a cartoon. I'm sorry I don't know why cartoons need to get into these issues.
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Mandos
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posted 20 February 2005 09:51 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't think you totally understand the Simpsons then. The Simpsons is *entirely* these issues.
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posted 20 February 2005 09:58 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the Simpsons is the smartest show on television. Those who refuse to watch it because it's a cartoon are missing out on a brilliant and intelligent show, with many layers of meaning, that's not afraid to skewer everything from religion to capitalism to politics to corporate wrongdoing to public education and beyond. It's run for 16 years with high ratings every year. There's much more to it than meets the eye. You just never know what to expect.
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Michelle
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posted 20 February 2005 10:12 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, Hailey, you know you really should give it a chance. As an adult, I think you'd really enjoy it. My son likes the show too, but of course he doesn't get any of the jokes, or at least he doesn't get them on the same level an adult would. A lot of people think The Simpsons is not appropriate for children, and I have the feeling you'd probably fall into that camp, and that's okay, because really, it IS a grown-up show. But I think you might like it if you give it a chance.
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posted 20 February 2005 10:16 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
There was no "Viewer Discretion" warning when I watched it on Fox. Besides, that warning acts as a magnet.

You likely watched it on Global, although you were tuned to Fox. There was a viewer discretion warning on a promo for the show aired on Fox earlier.


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posted 20 February 2005 11:00 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have a satellite subscription to Fox, with American advertising. No "Viewers Discretion" appeared on the show I watched.
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 20 February 2005 11:09 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Outstanding ep! This is the only show on US TV that gets away with what they do (perhaps its because its animated.

I don't know if Hailey would like the depiction of Rev. Lovejoy however.


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quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
I have a satellite subscription to Fox, with American advertising. No "Viewers Discretion" appeared on the show I watched.

I just saw the opening on the west coast feed. It said "This program contains discussion of same-sex marriage. Parental discretion is advised."


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Hephaestion
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posted 21 February 2005 12:32 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heh heh heh... just saw it. Hey RB, wanna go to the airport and leave a bag unattended?

*muffled giggles*


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remind
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posted 21 February 2005 02:29 AM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It was a funny show alright. Yea, The Simpsons.

Interestingly, Desperate Housewives even had a gay segment on it tonight too. Can't wait until Bree finds out her son is gay.


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The Hegemo
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posted 21 February 2005 03:40 PM      Profile for The Hegemo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought it was a pretty lame episode, overall. Some good moments (the Fox call-in line for program proposals was great), but the whole thing seemed rather limp. Granted, I wish the Simpsons had been cancelled about five years ago, because they're just tarnishing their legacy with every lackluster new episode they produce.

I was going to comment that there was no disclaimer when I watched it (on a Fox affiliate owned by Sinclair!) but then I remembered that I switched it on after the opening credits. The local Fox/Sinclair 10 o'clock news did spend all evening hyping an in-depth look at the CONTROVERSIAL SIMPSONS EPISODE. To sum up their story: some Christian Conservative says it's offensive; some other Christian says the Simpsons is good because the characters go to church. And now to sports and weather, I'm Kent Brockman reporting.


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posted 21 February 2005 03:46 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
Interestingly, Desperate Housewives even had a gay segment on it tonight too.

I heard that they're thinking about introducing a gay character on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy".


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remind
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posted 21 February 2005 08:14 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hailey:
I've watched exactly one episode of the Simpsons. It's a cartoon. I'm sorry I don't know why cartoons need to get into these issues.

Let me guess. Was it the "Ayn Rand Day Care" episode? ("A is for A").

....it's satire, don't take these things personal, even if it does poke fun of your fondest childhood memories, Hailey.


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posted 21 February 2005 09:20 PM      Profile for Vansterdam Kid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Yes, Hailey, you know you really should give it a chance. As an adult, I think you'd really enjoy it. My son likes the show too, but of course he doesn't get any of the jokes, or at least he doesn't get them on the same level an adult would. A lot of people think The Simpsons is not appropriate for children, and I have the feeling you'd probably fall into that camp, and that's okay, because really, it IS a grown-up show. But I think you might like it if you give it a chance.

I agree. I can only speak to my personal experience but I watched the show since I was four years old (hmm should a four year old have watched the Simpsons?) When I was younger it was just another cartoon, kind of funny -- but I didn't really "get it". As I've gotten older, I've became more appreciative of it.


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posted 21 February 2005 09:34 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I was four, for some disturbing reason, I comprehended all of the political jokes except for the Gerald Ford trip joke.

The Simpsons is a brilliant piece of satire that only recentely has began to reclaim some of its former glory. I think Groening and co. are finally getting back onto their fat FOX sponsorded assses and working.


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posted 25 February 2005 02:26 PM      Profile for thorin_bane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fururama is even better I wish the had left that on the air...they could do more with the characters because *insert booming voice*"IN THE FUTURE ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE even magic" Futurama was like simpson halloween episodes every single one.
Lewsi Black points out how 1 fox plays smut and all sorts of profane shows, while the other rails against smut and profanity....you do the math. Hey looky we just captured both markets!! woopee for me.

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