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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 15 August 2001 12:50 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Strange things were afoot at the Circle-K last night when I was watching Chasing Amy on Citytv. They made really weird choices about what words were allowed and which ones had to be edited out.


When anybody said, "mother-fucker," they edited out "mother" but left in "fucker".

When Holden says, "fucking cunt-rag," they edited out "fucking" but left in "cunt-rag".

And they edited out the word "pussy". You can say "cunt-rag" but you can't say "pussy"?!

Those are some weird censoring rules they got at Citytv (or at the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council).


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Michelle
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posted 16 August 2001 12:52 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's strange isn't it? I always thought that "cunt" was one of those words that never make it past the censors.

However, if you read the Vagina Monologues sometime, you'll think of that word completely differently (even though I still have a REALLY hard time getting it past my lips - old taboo, I guess)...


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 16 August 2001 01:04 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You wanna gain new respect for "bad" words? Pick up a copy of the Wordsworth Dictionary of Obscenity and Taboo! It explains the origins of many of today's "bad" words, how many of them have only recently been considered taboo, and how many words we think are innocuous used to be considered taboo.

Heck, at one time it was considered taboo to use the word "bear", because a bear is a big, scary animal, with sharp teeth and big claws. To even utter the word was considered tempting the fates!

The entry in the Wordsworth book for "cunt" was pretty darned interesting.

[ August 16, 2001: Message edited by: Kneel before MediaBoy ]


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Nic
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posted 20 August 2001 01:28 PM      Profile for Nic     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the strange censoring comes from city TV, since I havn't herd any examples of what you are talking about on any stations aside from ones owned by Chum (I don't get City TV itself, but they are all the same). Maybe I've just missed it, I'm going to keep my ears open.
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Trisha
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posted 20 August 2001 01:35 PM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Go back to George Carlin's "Dirty Words". A few are considered more acceptable now but most of what he says still stands. On a recent replay of one of his concerts, he explains the "f___" usages and acceptability. I still don't care for the word and tend to only use it when I'm out of control.
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posted 19 September 2001 06:21 PM      Profile for vaudree     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does anyone know what happened to Jenn (the former PJ Katie) on YTV? My son said she was pulled because she called one of her cohosts an asshole.
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posted 20 September 2001 02:25 PM      Profile for girlincrisis     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
profanity is a wonderful thing! i find something subversive and maybe even empowering as a woman to use 'foul language'...i've been told i have a trucker mouth. i hate the implication that one is less 'feminine' if they have a pottymouth. i guess i am more interested in the reclaiming of certain words like 'slut', 'whore', 'pussy', 'cunt' and so on as a way to refuse their gendered meaning and/or their use as a tool to control or degrade women's sexuality culturally. i suppose i am digressing here..but i LOVE bad words, if you will.
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vaudree
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posted 20 September 2001 02:37 PM      Profile for vaudree     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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profanity is a wonderful thing! i find something subversive and maybe even empowering as a woman to use 'foul language'...

Something that every two year-old has known for generations.

To get around that I tell my son that profanity is a sign of a poor vocabulary - profanity is what you use when you can`t think of a better word. The little one likes to think of himself as smart.


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statica
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posted 20 September 2001 02:55 PM      Profile for statica   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
profanity used properly provides emphasis. when people are constantly spewing out swear words while talking, it's the equilivant OF CONSTANTLY TYPING IN CAPS. IT LOOSES ITS EFFECT AFTER A WHILE WHEN YOU HAVE TO READ PARAGRAPH AFTER PARAGRAPH OF THIS STUFF, NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE SPEECH.
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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 20 September 2001 04:33 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's funny, when I'm sincerely frustrated I tend not to use profanity. If I stub my toe I yell out a good, Homeresque "Doh!".

I often automatically yell out "goodness gracious" or "dagnabbit" when I do something stupid, or my computer does something stupid to me. It's a reflex for me.

When I'm NOT sincerely frustrated, and I'm just chatting with my buddies, I curse like a girlincrisis.

Odd, no?

I think that it's ludicrous to classify certain words as being "bad" or "uncreative" or "the sign of an unintelligent mind". They're just words.


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statica
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posted 20 September 2001 05:51 PM      Profile for statica   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
words ...just sticks and stones, right?
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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 20 September 2001 09:11 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I fear ideas. I fear statements. I fear threats. I fear insults. I fear arguments.

I do not fear words. A word has no power without context.


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Tommy_Paine
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posted 20 September 2001 09:35 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have a personal distaste for the "c" word above all others. The hard "c" and abrupt, stacatto "t" sound at the end seem to mock a part of the female anatomy I find soft, warm, and so increadibly..... everything when enveloped by it. Nothing that tastes so perfect, that provides the instant gateway from the tactile sense to the soulfull response of the mind and vocal cords should ever be refered to with such a hard, unyeilding word.

The sound is too harsh: it strikes my ears as a lie and offends my spirit.

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To censor words or images implies that they must be able to cause us some kind of harm. If that is so, then we should at once confine the censors: it is they who are exposed to the most harmful words and images. Whatever harms can be inpired by such words and images must, according to their theories, have manifested itself in them.

Jail, or psychiatric wards are the obvious places for censors to confine themselves to if they are true to their philosophies.


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Pimji
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posted 20 September 2001 10:57 PM      Profile for Pimji   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I kind of liked the way canadian TV could swear freely. I have to admit that it is now overly celebrated to the point that it diminishes the dialogue and bring down the quality of the program. There is no reason to insert profanity just merely for the reason that we can.
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