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Gir Draxon
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posted 16 September 2004 01:01 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
by Big Sugar
quote:
I'm a workin' man
But I ain't worked for a while
Like some old tin can
From the bottom of the pile
From the bottom of the pile

[Chorus]
I have lost my way
But I hear a tale
About a heaven in Alberta
Where they've got all hell for a basement

My words are like a rope
That's wrapped around my throat
Wash my mouth with soap
For words unfit to quote

Chorus x2

And now I'm free to go
But time cannot remove
The only life I know
Now only time will prove
Yes only time will prove

If I have lost my way
Cuz I hear a tale
About a heaven in Alberta
Where they've got all hell for a basement

Yeah I have lost my way
But I hear a tale
About a heaven in Alberta
Where they've got all hell for a basement


What do you think of this song? And what do you think of the music industry which refused to release this song in central Canada because it contained the name "Alberta" rather than "another province"? (Read about that here)


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windymustang
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posted 16 September 2004 01:09 PM      Profile for windymustang     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think it's a great analogy for social stucture in Alberta. I also think that the music industry is chicken shit for not wanting to publish it as it stood.

How would it make sense without AB in the lyrics. The song applies to AB, not "another province".


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 16 September 2004 01:36 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's ridiculous...

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There is a town in north Ontario, dream/comfort/memory/despair...

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Think I'll go out to Alberta, weather's good there in the fall...

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Then you flew your baby up to Nova Scotia to see the total eclipse of the sun...

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I come from east of Gatineau, mon nom est Jean-Guy, ma jolie...

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Here we are at mile zero, this is St. John's, Newfoundland...

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Springtime melts the snow, rivers overflow, Portage and Main fifty below...

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It's Bud the Spud from the bright red mud...

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Went to Regina, red sister, heard a cab driver say what he'd seen. There's a grand place to eat out on number one, all white ladies if you know what I mean...

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Out of Gastown in the morning, on a train in '69, into the arc weld of the rising sun, we left the coast behind...

I recall Midnight Oil being asked to take out some of their Australia-specific references. Hey record companies, that's the whole attraction of listening to artists from different regions of the country (or world).

[Edited to add a prize-free music trivia challenge: Who can be the first to name the title and artist for each of these songs... without googling the lyrics? Bonus question: Which town in north Ontario is that? Really obvious bonus question: Which one was written and performed by a non-Canadian?]

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beverly
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posted 16 September 2004 01:51 PM      Profile for beverly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Can someone explain to me what "all hell for a basement means" ??? 'Cause I don't get it.

Regional diversity in music - that's why I love folk music.


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skdadl
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posted 16 September 2004 01:55 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"all hell for a basement" is a quotation from Rudyard Kipling: he meant it as a compliment to Medicine Hat, and he was referring to the town's rich natural-gas reserves.

Guess how I know.


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beverly
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posted 16 September 2004 02:11 PM      Profile for beverly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you Skdadl that makes sense. Someone I work with thought maybe they were referring to Hell, Alberta (somewhere over by th Sask border near Chin?) I dunno
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 17 September 2004 03:37 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
[Edited to add a prize-free music trivia challenge: Who can be the first to name the title and artist for each of these songs... without googling the lyrics? Bonus question: Which town in north Ontario is that? Really obvious bonus question: Which one was written and performed by a non-Canadian?]

Nobody? Hmmm. Maybe I should have offered a prize...


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Paul Gross
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posted 17 September 2004 05:27 AM      Profile for Paul Gross   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
challenge: Who can be the first to name the title and artist for each of these songs... without googling the lyrics? Bonus question: Which town in north Ontario is that? Really obvious bonus question: Which one was written and performed by a non-Canadian?]

Answers off the top of my head:

Helpless, Neil Young
Four Strong Winds, Ian Tyson (Ian & Sylvia)
You're so Vain, Carly Simon (bonus: non-Canadian)
dunno
dunno
Portage and Main, Randy Bachman
Bud the Spud, Stompin Tom
Red Brother, Red Sister, Bruce Cockburn
dunno


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aRoused
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posted 17 September 2004 06:21 AM      Profile for aRoused     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hmm, songs about Newfoundlanders working on the oilfields, never heard one of those before:

quote:
I often take these night shift walks when the foreman's not around.
I turn my back on the cooling stacks and make for open ground.
Far out beyond the tank farm fence where the gas flare makes no sound,
I forget the stink and I always think back to that Eastern town.

I remember back six years ago, this Western life I chose.
And every day, the news would say some factory's going to close.
Well, I could have stayed to take the Dole, but I'm not one of those.
I take nothing free, and that makes me an idiot, I suppose.

So I bid farewell to the Eastern town I never more will see;
But work I must so I eat this dust and breathe refinery.
Oh I miss the green and the woods and streams and I don't like cowboy clothes;
But I like being free and that makes me an idiot I suppose.

So come all you fine young fellows who've been beaten to the ground.
This western life's no paaradise, but it's better than lying down.
Oh, the streets aren't clean, and there's nothing green, and the hills are dirty brown,
But the government Dole will rot your soul back there in your home town.

So bid farewell to the Eastern town you never more will see.
There's self-respect and a steady cheque in this refinery.
You will miss the green and the woods and streams and the dust will fill your nose.
But you'll be free, and just like me, an idiot, I suppose.


Stan Rogers, of course.


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vickyinottawa
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posted 17 September 2004 10:09 AM      Profile for vickyinottawa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
number 4 is Daniel Lanlois, I believe.
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 17 September 2004 10:44 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Gross:
Helpless, Neil Young

Correct. But, what is the name of the town (hint: most people wouldn't really consider it very "north")

quote:
Four Strong Winds, Ian Tyson (Ian & Sylvia)
You're so Vain, Carly Simon (bonus: non-Canadian)

Two more correct. Bonus question correct.

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Portage and Main, Randy Bachman

Close (artist correct, title a bit off)

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Bud the Spud, Stompin Tom
Red Brother, Red Sister, Bruce Cockburn

And two more correct.

Paul Gross' results: Five correct. One more half correct. Three not answered. One out of two bonus questions correct.

Yay Paul!

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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 17 September 2004 10:45 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by vickyinottawa:
number 4 is Daniel Lanlois, I believe.

Vicky is correct on the artist. Can anyone help her with the title for the full point.


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Stephen Gordon
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posted 17 September 2004 11:27 AM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Was the town in 'Helpless' Omemee?

(I read Shakey last summer.)


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 17 September 2004 12:25 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Oliver Cromwell:
Was the town in 'Helpless' Omemee?

Ding ding ding ding.

Omemee is half way between Peterborough and Lindsey, in what is now officially known as The City of Kawartha Lakes.


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Stephen Gordon
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posted 17 September 2004 12:40 PM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It was either that or Thunder Bay, where he spent some time as well - thanks for the hint! I guess Young needed an extra syllable or two in that line, and 'a 45-minute drive from Toronto' was too long. He knows where Northern Ontario is - he's driven across it enough.
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vickyinottawa
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posted 17 September 2004 01:05 PM      Profile for vickyinottawa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
nah, it took me a second to recall. Jolie Louise, non?
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 17 September 2004 06:09 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bien oui!

That leaves two songs unidentified.

[Plus one title to correct.]

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arborman
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posted 17 September 2004 08:14 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The song is titled 'Growing up in a Prairie Town'
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 17 September 2004 09:09 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Close enough for the point. It's simply called "Prairie Town".
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arborman
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posted 18 September 2004 11:25 AM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gah! Really?

I always liked the second line best:

"learning to drive in the snow"

Not that I miss the prairie winters, but the snowbanks in the ditches were very forgiving compared to the walls of bedrock awaiting novice drivers in the ditches here in BC.


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Puetski Murder
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posted 18 September 2004 07:16 PM      Profile for Puetski Murder     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What no Hawkesbury shout out from Jean Leloup?
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candle
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posted 18 September 2004 10:18 PM      Profile for candle     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The last one is by Spirit of the West but I can't remember which song - it's on Save This House I believe.

Here's another one for people to chew on:

"do the words relate to me
or are they about you
in the van outside of hamilton"


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 18 September 2004 11:21 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by candle:
The last one is by Spirit of the West but I can't remember which song - it's on Save This House I believe.

Correct, right down to which CD its on. The song itself is called "Wrecking Ball".

The yet to be named song is "The Longest Road", by Stephen Fearing, off "The Assassin's Apprentice" (it also appears on his live album, "So Many Miles"). You really should look him up folks.


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