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candle
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posted 06 July 2004 01:05 AM      Profile for candle     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Over in the election forum I talked about the Liberal theme song sounded might similar to "You Get What You Give" by the New Radicals. This led me to set up a thread here about recent songs that are Too Close for Comfort to past songs.

We all know about George Harrison and My Sweet Lord, The Beach Boys ripping off Chuck Berry, Ray Parker Jr and Huey Lewis and the News, The Cult ripping off Start Me Up, the Stones ripping off K.D. Lang, and John Fogarty being sued for plagiarizing CCR but what about more recent transgressions.

The other day I had Much Loud on the TV running through the speakers on my porch and I hear what sounded like the riff for BTO's "Takin' Care of Business" but it wasn't - it was actually Jet's "Rollover DJ". Tonight, thinking it was just me, I did a search and no I wasn't hearing things.

Anyother recent examples?


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posted 06 July 2004 04:17 AM      Profile for Primate1   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by candle:
Over in the election forum I talked about the Liberal theme song sounded might similar to "You Get What You Give" by the New Radicals. This led me to set up a thread here about recent songs that are Too Close for Comfort to past songs.

We all know about George Harrison and My Sweet Lord, The Beach Boys ripping off Chuck Berry, Ray Parker Jr and Huey Lewis and the News, The Cult ripping off Start Me Up, the Stones ripping off K.D. Lang, and John Fogarty being sued for plagiarizing CCR but what about more recent transgressions.

The other day I had Much Loud on the TV running through the speakers on my porch and I hear what sounded like the riff for BTO's "Takin' Care of Business" but it wasn't - it was actually Jet's "Rollover DJ". Tonight, thinking it was just me, I did a search and no I wasn't hearing things.

Anyother recent examples?


Not the first time Jet have ripped off a classic. Compare Jet's "Are you Gonna Be My Girl" to iggy Pop's "Lust For Life". The first time I heard Are you Gonna Be My Girl on the radio I thought it was Lust For Life, but a little off. I found out why as soon as the vocals kicked in.


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 06 July 2004 04:39 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jewel's "Who Will Save Your Soul" rips off "Watching The Detectives" by Elvis Costello.

Phil Collins' "Sussudio" is really Prince's "1999".

Robbie Neville's "Hot Rod Hearts" was the subject of a lawsuit by The Doobie Brothers, because it sounded exactly like "What a Fool Believes".

The trend is clearly that the second song usually sucks ("My Sweet Lord" and The Jam's "Start" -- which rips off Taxman -- are notable exceptions).


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posted 06 July 2004 06:06 AM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And Bob Marley's Buffalo Soldiier is really a slow downed version of the theme song from the Banana Splits (a late 60s/early 70s Saturday morning kid's show.)


One banana, two banana, three banana, four
Four bananas make a bunch and so do many more.
Over hill and highway the banana buggies go
Comin' to bring you the Banana Split show

(CHORUS)
Tra la la, la la la la
Tra la la, la la la la

Four banana, three banana, two banana, one
All bananas playin' in the bright warm sun.
Flippin' like a pancake, popping like a cork
Fleegle, Bingo, Drooper an' Snork

(REPEAT CHORUS)

Two banana, four banana, one banana, three
Swingin' like a bunch on monkeys, hangin' from a tree.
Hey there, ev'rybody, won't you come along and see
How much like Banana Splits ev'ryone can be

(REPEAT CHORUS)

Makin up a mess of fun
Makin up a mess of fun
Happiness for ev'ryone
Tra la la, la la la la
Tra la la, la la la la
Tra la la, la la la la

click here to hear a midi version of the tune

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HellofaSandwich
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posted 06 July 2004 10:38 PM      Profile for HellofaSandwich   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
(Forget it. Someone already mentioned Jet...)

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steffie
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posted 06 July 2004 10:51 PM      Profile for steffie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Creed's "My Sacrifice" has a Zep riff ("kashmir"?), but I always thought when it was obvious like that they had permission, sort of like a tribute to the bands that inspired them. No?
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Primate1
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Nickelback's "Someday" is a ripoff of Nickelback's "How You Remind Me".

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Dr. Mr. Ben
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posted 07 July 2004 12:35 AM      Profile for Dr. Mr. Ben   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In that vein, every Jewel song is a rip-off of every other Jewel song.
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posted 07 July 2004 12:43 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, and each Britney Spears song is a ripoff of every BSB song.
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A friend pointed out to me that Bruce Springstein's "Cover Me" and Cindy Lauper's "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" have remarkably similar guitar riffs. Neither of us knew which came first, though.
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posted 07 July 2004 01:42 AM      Profile for HellofaSandwich   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by steffie_slick:
Creed's "My Sacrifice" has a Zep riff ("kashmir"?), but I always thought when it was obvious like that they had permission, sort of like a tribute to the bands that inspired them. No?

Well, for the Stones at least, Jagger's daughter noticed the glaring similarity to one of k.d. lang's songs and it was then arranged to list her as one of the song's co-writers.

"Anybody seeeeeen myyyy baaaaaabyyyy?" or something like that...


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candle
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posted 07 July 2004 02:05 AM      Profile for candle     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A few others I forgot:

The start of "Get in the Car" by Moxy Fruvous is identical to the earlier recorded sloan song "Penpals"

But then again Sloan's "Anyone Whose Anyone" is pretty similar to "Armenia City in the Sky" by the Who

Elastica had several songs that borrowed heavily from Wire and the Stranglers.

Puddle of Mudd's "She Hates Me" has a bit that sounds like "I've Got a Girl" by Tripping Daisy which is really annoying because Tripping Daisy were great and Puddle of Mudd is yecchhhh


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candle
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posted 07 July 2004 02:07 AM      Profile for candle     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by HellofaSandwich:

Well, for the Stones at least, Jagger's daughter noticed the glaring similarity to one of k.d. lang's songs and it was then arranged to list her as one of the song's co-writers.

"Anybody seeeeeen myyyy baaaaaabyyyy?" or something like that...


Howerver when the Verve used a bit of a Stones song in "Bittersweet Symphony" the Stones took the entire credit rather than sharing the songwriting credit.


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They're both cheesy songs, but Belinda Carlisle's "Heaven is a Place on Earth" is a total rip off of "Living on a Prayer" by Bon Jovi.

- Classic rock rip-off: The main chord change in "Baba O'Reilly" by The Who was lifted verbatim by Randy Bachman for BTO's "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet"

- 60's rip-off: the Beach Boys "Surfing USA" is an exact copy of Chuck Berry's "Sweet Little Sixteen" (they had to give Berry a writing credit for the surfing tune!)


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posted 07 July 2004 04:47 AM      Profile for beluga2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The first couple seconds of "I Can't Explain" by the Who and "Clash City Rockers" by the Clash are virtually identical.

How 'bout songs that sound exactly like some other artist? Growing up, I was quite fond of songs like:

"A Horse with No Name" by Neil Young
"Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress" by CCR
"Sultans of Swing" by Bob Dylan
"What a Fool Believes" by the Bee Gees

Oh yeah: ever compared the chords of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" to "More Than a Feeling" by Boston? (Cobain himself acknowledged the ripoff.)


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 07 July 2004 05:01 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:

"A Horse with No Name" by Neil Young
"Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress" by CCR
"Sultans of Swing" by Bob Dylan
"What a Fool Believes" by the Bee Gees


Far out. I always thought the same - except for the BGs example. Were we neighbours in the 70s?

How about Glenn Miller's In the Mood, which ripped off Don Redman and Horace Henderson's Hot And Anxious, which was itself a borrowing of Wingy Manone's Tar Paper Stomp?


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 07 July 2004 05:31 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Platinum Blonde, which was "a tribute band" anyway (although I don't think The Police ever considered it much of a tribute), totally ripped off "The Ghost In You" by The Psychedellic Furs. I think their note-for-note version was called "Somebody Somewhere".

I always thought that John Mellancamp's "Rumbleseat" was eerily similar to Bruce Springsteen's "Badlands", but no one else seemed to be able to hear it.


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posted 07 July 2004 07:41 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CBC Newsworld's morning show had a theme song about five years ago. The notes were exactly the same as the beginning of the Star Trek theme (You know, the music part that's in the background when they're saying, "Space: The final frontier. Blah blah blah.") They had the same notes in the same order, but a different rhythm. The exact same notes!

It used to drive me nuts.


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'Smells Like Teen Spirit' always struck me as a bit of a Debaser knock off.
Now, bear with me on this one, but 'Lucky' by Radiohead is eerily close to the theme tune to The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy (aka Journey of the Sorceror by the Eagles). Given as it was released on the same album as Paranoid Android (another Douglas Adams reference), I get the idea it's intentional.

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quote:
Originally posted by Anchoress:
Yeah, and each Britney Spears song is a ripoff of every BSB song.

You mean " "Britney Spears" "song". "


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posted 07 July 2004 12:43 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wasn't "Sultans of Swing" a Dire Straits tune?
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al-Qa'bong
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posted 07 July 2004 12:48 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jacob Miller (who led Inner Circle until his death) had a song called Standing Firm that borrowed from Dave Brubek's Take Five.

There was a Madonna song on the radio around 1986, it might have been called "True Love", that sounded quite a bit like a Herb Alpert number called Acapulco 1922.


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 07 July 2004 12:49 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by paxamillion:
Wasn't "Sultans of Swing" a Dire Straits tune?

*cough*


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paxamillion
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posted 07 July 2004 12:50 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:
*cough*

Mea culpa, I guess, then.


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 07 July 2004 12:51 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by paxamillion:
Wasn't "Sultans of Swing" a Dire Straits tune?

Hate to do this to you Pax, but...

WHOOSH!

He was saying that those songs sounded like they were by the artists listed (i.e. not derivative of any particular song, but of the overall sound of the artist).


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posted 07 July 2004 12:53 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Mea culpa, again.
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