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paxamillion
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posted 01 July 2004 09:34 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I spent part of my warm Canada Day in a cool theatre with mrs. pax watching Fahrenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore. It was, in a work, awesome. It's little wonder that distribution took some time. I think anyone who watched this film with an open mind will ever be able to see the GOP and Dubya the same way.

It had many of the trademarks of great Moore films -- incorporation of third party footage, ambush journalism, and so on. Yes, there were some shocking and disturbing images from Iraq and New York. I couldn't help thinking, though, that these were the sorts of images I needed to see and remember.

Highly recommended. One bald head up!!


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bittersweet
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posted 02 July 2004 02:39 PM      Profile for bittersweet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A terrific article from New York Press: Journalists: Hitchens vs. Moore

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We just can't forgive it when someone does our jobs for us. Say what you want about Moore, but he picked himself up and did something, something approximating the role journalism is supposed to play. The rest of us—let's face it—are just souped-up shoe salesmen with lit degrees. Who should shut their mouths in the presence of real people.

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Michelle
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posted 02 July 2004 02:58 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Haha! The first paragraph of the article grabbed me and wouldn't let go, kind of like a baboon humping...well anyhow. This broke me up:

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Well, that's rich, isn't it? Christopher Hitchens crawling out of a bottle long enough to denounce Michael Moore as a coward. I can't imagine anything more uplifting, except maybe a zoo baboon humping the foot of a medical school cadaver.

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skdadl
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posted 02 July 2004 03:04 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Taibbi on Hitchens:

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a man who has had his intellectual face lifted so many times, he can't close his eyes without opening his mouth.

Now, I call that a rant. Superbe!


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Barry Stagg
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posted 02 July 2004 05:15 PM      Profile for Barry Stagg   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is another example of a "Rogue Nation" and its barbarism for Michael Moore to hyperventilate about: Palestinian summary executions probably pale in righteous comparison to the fairway habits of the American president.

[ 02 July 2004: Message edited by: Barry Stagg ]


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arborman
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posted 02 July 2004 05:22 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The difference, of course, being that Moore is concentrating on his own nation.
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bittersweet
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posted 02 July 2004 05:33 PM      Profile for bittersweet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
B. Stagg, if you had really watched the film, you would know that Bush's fairway habits are not its focus, either in terms of the actual facts presented, or their moral conclusion. The "righteous comparison" is your invention, falsely attributed to others.
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Jacob Two-Two
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posted 02 July 2004 05:35 PM      Profile for Jacob Two-Two     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Your honor, I admit that in my haste to get away from the scene of my armed robbery, I did run down and kill that elderly couple. I admit this, but I think the massive amount of evidence I have compiled detailing the brutal dictatorships of the world proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the court is wasting its time prosecuting me or investigating whatever other crimes I may have commited. So I challenge this court to find the courage to go after the real criminals and completely overlook my regretable infractions of the law."
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Hinterland
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posted 02 July 2004 05:35 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Here is another example of a "Rogue Nation" and its barbarism for Michael Moore to hyperventilate about: Palestinian summary executions probably pale in righteous comparison to the fairway habits of the American president.

Et la cantatrice chauve, elle?


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thwap
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posted 02 July 2004 06:23 PM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
thanks for the NYPress link. loved the story. and i also won a $1000 Disney vacation for being their 1000th. visitor!!!
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bittersweet
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posted 02 July 2004 07:42 PM      Profile for bittersweet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey, that's Goofy, man! Just don't get any ideas about showing slides of your vacation before passing muster with the Mouse.
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bittersweet
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posted 02 July 2004 07:43 PM      Profile for bittersweet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey, that's Goofy, man! Just don't get any ideas about showing slides of your vacation before passing muster with the Mouse.
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Kaitlin Stocks
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posted 03 July 2004 02:12 AM      Profile for Kaitlin Stocks   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Movie most excellent!

I went between laughing at the idiocy and tomfoolery of Dubya, and crying at the terrorism of Dubya. I can't believe that one man could be so evil. So frightening.

However, the saddest part about the movie, is that only open minded individuals will watch it, so the half that really needs to see it will ignore it... For example - blind Republican supporters. They will dismiss this movie as a left factory piece of crap attack on their beloved, and not see it. We, the people who have seen or will be seein it soon, are most likely already opposed to Dub's regime of terror.

My verdict - a must see for every citizen of North America, nay, the world.


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Baldfresh
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posted 03 July 2004 02:21 AM      Profile for Baldfresh   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5255240.html

Has anyone else seen the clips of Moore explictly stating he has no trouble with filesharing? Check www.suprnova.org et al if you haven't, should only take a minute (or ten on dialup) to snatch. It will be interesting to see how this shapes up, but one thing to keep in mind is that even though Moore himself may have no real objections to the unauthorized distribution, Lion's Gate and others involved in the film certainly will.

Is Moore to be held accountable for not making sure his movie gets pirated? Hell no.


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