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Mycroft_
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posted 01 July 2003 03:31 AM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
A forum to discuss the death of people whose demise isn't siginficant enough to warrant an entirely new thread.


Buddy Hackett's dead at the age of 78. Hackett's signature bit was "the Chinese Waiter" (on the Simpsons, Krusty the Clown attempts a similar routine mortifying Jay Leno, Jeanne Garofolo and other comics).


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I remember Buddy Hackett. I thought he was cute.

I've been looking around to see whether anyone started a thread elsewhere about Katharine Hepburn, and don't see one.

Well, she was a great broad, obviously. Her performance in Philadelphia Story is a tour de force, of course, but I still have a special soft spot for Summertime, partly because I still fall for Rossano Brazzi, who, I think, died only last year. Seldom has anyone done ditzy self-consciousness as totally as Hepburn does in that movie. She never stops twitching! We also get to see her fall in a Venice canal.

Oh -- Hepburn falling in the water also brings to mind African Queen. Wonderfully funny movie, two brilliant performances (Hepburn and Bogart), and conclusive evidence that John Huston was a sadist.

[ 01 July 2003: Message edited by: skdadl ]


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Katherine Hepburn, the first of the genuine feminists. A wonderful actress, even after getting an illness that made her shake all the time.

CHANGED FOR CORRECT NAME, I had been viewing some information on a special award to Audrey Hepburn the same day.

[ 02 July 2003: Message edited by: Trisha ]


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dianal who asked to be unregistered
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Trisha..... Audrey....or Katherine?

OMG I adored katherine hepburn. We had just watched On Golden Pond for the umpteenth time the other day 'you old poop' and I found myself getting all verklempt at her 'you are my knight in shining armour' bit.

I have all the books written on her, plus HER book 'Me', that I had loaned around to my co workers when it first came out.

I loved how she styled her hair, that she always wore pants and pullovers and cardigans, her amazing accent. That she was full of spunk, and fire and loved Spencer Tracy. I will always regret that I wasn't able to meet her in person.


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I am not much of a "celebrity hound" but I adored Katharine Hepburn... (so very few celebrities are worth the honour -- she certainly was one of them...)tis a sad day.
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posted 01 July 2003 02:48 PM      Profile for Junkyard Dog     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
years ago, there was a review in the Toronto Star that succinctly summed up Buddy Hackett's nightclub act: "An adorable little fat man telling scatalogical jokes." Bwah.
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Kate's performance in The Lion in Winter is one of my favorites. Buddy Hackett was a very funny stand-up comedian. Gregory Peck died a couple of weeks ago. It's sad to see the legends pass from the scene.

On the other hand, any week in which Strom Thurmond and Lester Maddox die can't be all bad.


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dianal who asked to be unregistered
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Can anyone tell me on what date Larry Flynt was shot and thus made impotent? I think that's worthy of a party with my friends. Gawd is a woman and yes, she has a rocking sense of humour
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posted 01 July 2003 03:39 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Larry Flynt is impotent? Get out. Really?

Learn something new every day.

But you know, I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Larry Flynt, even though he is a nasty character. Wasn't he the one who put up a reward for anyone who could dig up any kind of sexual scandal on Republican politicians during the Lewinsky affair? I thought that was pretty cool.

[ 01 July 2003: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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dianal who asked to be unregistered
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posted 01 July 2003 03:50 PM      Profile for dianal who asked to be unregistered     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
yes.. and his junkie wife was the only woman he ever truly 'loved'. his whole 'freedom of speech' court shit was just that IMHO .. shit. think about it.. the only woman he could EVER truly connect with, in his little brain, was a junkie. Speaks volumes.
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Well, wait a minute, here. I mean, I'm sure he didn't feel connected to her BECAUSE she was a junkie. It IS possible to fall in love with a drug abuser, and even feel as if they're the only person you could ever love if you have really fallen head over heels for someone and feel like you connect with them on an emotional level you've never connected with anyone else before. I don't think that necessarily says anything bad about him. Some people might even find it admirable that he can see past the woman's problems to the human being inside.
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Substance users have very little capacity for emotional attachments. Sorry. They are so whacked or high or drunk.. emotions just aren't possible. Maybe take this to a link about substance use? it's just not possible and I say it speaks volumes about Larry Flynt. What kind of man can say he connected to such a level with a junkie that she was the only woman he only ever truly loved? She wasn't even present .. he was talking to the heroin.
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What kind of man can say he connected to such a level with a junkie that she was the only woman he only ever truly loved?

One with a level of compassion that seems to be lacking in you.


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dianal who asked to be unregistered
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quote:
She wasn't even present .. he was talking to the heroin.

In point of fact, I am known for my compassion and kind heart.


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dianal who asked to be unregistered
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Larry Flynt: Shot on March 6, 1978 outside a Lawrenceville, Georgia courthouse by Joseph Paul Franklin.

thanks everyone, but I found the info I was looking for


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al-Qa'bong
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Flynt came across as a sympathetic character in The People vs.Larry Flynt. I've seen him on talk shows, and he seems OK to me. According to the movie, Flynt's wife became a junkie after they both got hooked on the painkillers Flynt took after being shot. Flynt kicked; she died.

I thought Buddy Hackett was great in The Love Bug.


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quote:
he seems OK to me

oh really? Read all this then tell me if you'd like him to marry your daughter and be a part of your family....

http://www.skk.uit.no/WW99/papers/Russell_Diana_E_H.pdf


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Do we have to love someone enough to be our son-in-law in order to not wish them to be shot and injured permanently? Do we have to approve of everything someone does in order to admire some of the things they have done?
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I guess the irony of the publisher of Hustler magazine getting shot and instead of dieing, as was the intention of the shooter, he stays alive....but impotent...was lost on some here.

I have a very hard time finding something that Larry Flynt has done that overrides the harm to women and the $$$$ he's made doing so.


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This thread is seriously off track.

I was amused to read in Buddy Hackett's obit that he had been invited by the Three Stooges to replace Curley Howard after his stroke. How the history of the entertainment industry could have been different if he hadn't turned them down.

(They got Joe Besser instead who was a disaster)


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is he a democrat? he's got money a core of supporters and a proven track record on socially relevant issues.definitely in touch with the other southern baptists. started to scare myself.
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Actually, they brought back Shemp first (he'd been part of the act before they started making films) and then when Shemp died they got Joe Besser.

Buddy Hackett did have something of Curly about him, at least in his voice, but it's still hard to picture him as a stooge.


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Read all this then tell me if you'd like him to marry your daughter and be a part of your family....

Since my daughter's entering a convent as soon as she finishes high school, your point is moot....


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 02 July 2003 04:33 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I had trouble imagining Buddy as a Stooge until I saw this:


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Hackett had more of a presence than Besser or later, Joe de Rita. I think he could have brought the Stooges to new levels.
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Yeah, but he and Iggy would probably just have ended up having noogie-fights on stage.
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quote:
Originally posted by 'lance:
Yeah, but he and Iggy would probably just have ended up having noogie-fights on stage.


Y'know, try as I might, I just can't picture Buddy rolling around shirtless in broken glass.
Which is probaby a good thing.


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posted 02 July 2003 12:50 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by dianal:

In point of fact, I am known for my compassion and kind heart.



Yeah, but your knowledge of substance abuse leaves something to be desired.

[ 02 July 2003: Message edited by: paxamillion ]


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al-Qa'bong
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I think he could have brought the Stooges to new levels.

Perhaps, but it's also possible that his inclusion in the Stooge dynamic would have eventually destablized the Stooges to the point where they'd be known as "Buddy Hackett and the Two Other Stooges."

It certainly gives one something to contemplate.


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Yeah, but your knowledge of substance abuse leaves something to be desired.

Given that I train the trainer in Harm Reduction, I doubt it. This topic was previously broached and discussed, in some depth, in another thread about shelter work and oppressive practices.

I also do a pretty good 'curly' woowoowooo


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quote:
Originally posted by dianal:

Given that I train the trainer in Harm Reduction, I doubt it. This topic was previously broached and discussed, in some depth, in another thread about shelter work and oppressive practices.

I also do a pretty good 'curly' woowoowooo


My apologies. It's been the kind of morning where I made a tongue-in-cheek comment without the requisite smiley. I have adjusted my post as such above. Again, sorry.


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Thanks to a penile implant and a pump, Flynt says he's nolonger impotent; he has sensation and can ejaculate. Today, he is engaged to his former nurse, Liz Berrios, 36, a soft-spoken
woman who grew up Catholic in the San Gabriel Valley and formerly worked in UCLA's famous heart transplant unit.

What does Larry Flynt have to do with people who've died recently? Dianal?


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I posted a question on this thread that yes, you are absolutely correct Mr Magoo.. had nada to do with the topic.

People responded, however, and as any good conversation will do, it evolved

Why did YOU look up the latest on Larry Flynt and post that he's had a penile implant and is yet again going to marry. All I can say is thank GAWD that man can no longer procreate


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I remember reading an interview with him where he discussed his sex life, so I knew he wasn't entirely incapable.

What makes you think he can't procreate if he can ejaculate?


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oh no!!!! It's possible he may rear children???

Seriously.... I don't believe anything that comes from HIS mouth. He's slimey, creepy and has never done a damn thing except make a LOT of $$$ exploiting women and violence to women and children.

I am now officially NOT the reason this thread is staying off topic

'why I oughta.....' woowoowoowoo


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"Why I oughtta..."

Someone here needs a poke in the eye or to be hit over the head with a big, soft hammer. We were having such a nice visit about the Three Stooges, and now we're drifting into a pornographer's sex life.

n'yuk, n'yuk, n'yuk


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quote:

Thanks to a penile implant and a pump, Flynt says he's nolonger impotent; he has sensation and can ejaculate.

You know, I really did not need to know that.


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July 29th is sneakin' up fast.

The traditional day for a Marie Provost Party!!! Everyone has to come as a famous dead person. The more humiliating the circumstance of the death, the better.

....okay, so I have some sick friends....


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Who was that French chantuese who died when she rushed to the toilet in order to vomit, tripped, and hit the bowl with her head?
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You might be thinking of Lupe Velez:

quote:
She planned an extravagantly romantic death in true Hollywood fashion and surrounded her bed with flowers and candles. She put on her best gown and laid down to die. She could imagine the next day's front page, herself resplendent in her finery, a romantic sleeping beauty. Unfortunately, the spicy enchalada combo she'd had as her last meal didn't sit well with the cocktail of pills she'd swallowed and she had to lurch to the bathroom in a less than graceful dash and that's were they found her next day, expired with her head in the toilet bowl!.

She thought if she couldn't be remembered for her films, she'd be remembered for her death.


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Best imitation of Katharine Hepburn has to be Martin Short:

Here's Katharine Hepburn starting a car..."yi yi yi yi yi yi yi yi yi"...(accompanied by appropriate shaking gestures)

Damn funny.


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LDC, maybe you think laughing at folks with Parkinson's disease is funny. I don't. Sure hope you never get that condition, but a bit of empathy might be nice.

Thread drift: paxamillion, dianal's views and yours on substance abuse are legitimate disagreements as how to best solve this problem. Having been involved in a tenant's association and anti-poverty work, I'm more inclined to agree with her. People need a modicum of physical security to work on their problems. I'm not saying that they don't have to work on these problems.


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Agreed, legatta. Still funny, tho.
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quote:
Originally posted by LittleDoucheCoupe:
Agreed, lagatta. Still funny, tho.

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Barry White is dead.
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quote:
Originally posted by lagatta:
Thread drift: paxamillion, dianal's views and yours on substance abuse are legitimate disagreements as how to best solve this problem. Having been involved in a tenant's association and anti-poverty work, I'm more inclined to agree with her. People need a modicum of physical security to work on their problems. I'm not saying that they don't have to work on these problems.

I made a joke. I forgot a smiley. I have no disagreement.


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Apparently Mendelson Joe passed away for awhile but returned. I was actually sad for a bit there, and was going to post about it, but became suspicious when there was no mention in the local media.
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Social science "professionals" have very little capacity for emotional attachments. Sorry. They are so whacked on Ego or the Capital Letters under which they have learned to classify all human Experience (which they know only from Courses they have taken) ... emotions just aren't possible.


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Substance users have very little capacity for emotional attachments. Sorry. They are so whacked or high or drunk.. emotions just aren't possible.

I can buy that sustaining tolerable relationships is almost impossible, and that it becomes extremely secondary to the need to get the drug of choice, but I believe emotions are entirely possible.

And it's certainly possible for a non-addict to have feelings for an addict, even to sincerely believe he or she has connected with the addict. We have Al-Anon for a reason.

quote:

What kind of man can say he connected to such a level with a junkie that she was the only woman he only ever truly loved?

Well, maybe he was in denial. Or maybe there's more to the story than we know.

I agree that Hustler is some pretty disturbing shit, but lots of people fall deeply in love with other people who are emotionally unavailable in one way or another. I just don't see the connection here.

[ 05 July 2003: Message edited by: Smith ]


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quote:
Originally posted by Mycroft:
Barry White is dead.

Wanted to add a word on this in the midst of the Larry Flynt debate. I actually did end up liking him after a while - I think the turning point was the use of "You're My First, My Last, My Everything" in Ally McBeal - it's turned into an unofficial law students anthem, believe it or not. Yikes. I even got around to liking "Just The Way You Are"...yeah, baby, drop that voice right down looooow.

Of course there was also the "Love Unlimited" track by the Fun Lovin' Criminals a few years ago that paid tribute..."If Barry White saved your life, and got you back with your ex-wife, sing Barry White (Barry White), Barry White (Barry White), it's alright".

Gone to the great lounge in the sky ;-)


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I liked his appearance on the Simpsons.
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Yeah, the Barry White schtick on Ally McBeal always made me laugh - John Cage hearing Barry White in his mind was just delicious. Some of their silliness didn't work, but that one definitely did.
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Barry White's bass voice was something else. I was never much one for that genre of music, but that voice certainly drew me in.


The thing about Hacket, to me, was not his never ending patter, but the few well chosen moments he chose to be silent. In the way an actor has "a face that reads", good and great comedians have "silences that read".

With that in mind, he would have made a great "Stooge".


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In the missplaced Flynt debate, my take on him was that he was either born or had his sense of human decency surgically removed in youth.

I've never liked "Hustler". While the pornographic "style" might have been born out of a reaction to the pretentious style standard set by Heffner in "Playboy" it always struck me as mysogynistic in intent.

And, let's not forget either, the wonderful attempts by Flynt to humourize pedophelia by publishing "Chester the Molester", and the other cartoon content that, taken as a whole and sometimes singularly, is racist.

But, if we find Flynt to be permanently stuck in that stage of early male adolescence where everything is sex without much regard to humanity, there is at least a kind of honesty about it. A far more oily personage is Bob Guicione, of "Penthouse" fame, who does what Flynt does, but tries to come off as a gentleman.

Something Flynt never claimed to be.

It's that consistancy of view point-- even if we don't like how it manifests itself in his publications-- that makes him such a bulldog against the hypocricy of the religious right and the "Family Values" Repubicans in the States.


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quote:
Originally posted by dianal:
Substance users have very little capacity for emotional attachments. Sorry. They are so whacked or high or drunk.. emotions just aren't possible.

Sure they are. They just aren't of the kind you are narrowly calling 'emotions'. Never met a junkie or other abuser who didn't have doubt, fear, anxiety, anger...Heck, they smile, they laugh, they cry, they feel slighted...

There is a HUGE difference between a difficulty having what we deem normal emotional 'attachments' and having no emotions at all.


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Never met a junkie or other abuser who didn't have doubt, fear, anxiety, anger...Heck, they smile, they laugh, they cry, they feel slighted...

yes they do... and it's all related to drugs... where are they, who has them, when can I get some, etc.

quote:
There is a HUGE difference between a difficulty having what we deem normal emotional 'attachments' and having no emotions at all.


please define 'we' and 'normal'


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I just heard that Mike Furbey of "The Rhythm Pals" died last week at the age of 77.


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Buddy Ebsen:

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/ap20030707_469.html

Tap dancer, the original tin man in the Wizard of Oz, Jeb Clambet, and noted right-winger.


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Oh please don't tell me the Tin Man was a right-winger! That's sad in and of itself!

(Although it would explain why he spent the whole movie looking for a heart. )


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He would have been perfect for replacing Chris Stockwell, wouldn't he?
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He was originally cast as the tin man, but had to give up the role as the silver makeup he had to wear reacted with his skin.

I always liked Jed Clampett. Never watched "Barnaby Jones."


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Rather nasty for him to campaign against Nancy Kulp (Miss Jane) when she ran for Congress as a liberal Democrat in the 1980s.
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I'll bet no Rhythm Pal would have a discouraging word for or about anyone.
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Nope.
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(This isn't eactly arts and culture, but I'm posting it here anyway.)

Pioneering Canadian environmentalist, Gary Gallon, died last week.

Environmental News Service:

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Gallon entered the work force on the floor of the Vancouver Stock Exchange in the late 1960s. His days were spent writing investment outlines for natural resource extraction companies, while at night he helped to found the Society Promoting Environmental Conservation (SPEC), now one of the oldest environmental organizations in British Columbia.

His early campaigns attempted to raise public awareness of the hazards of pesticides and the benefits of household recycling. He worked on oil spill prevention and the protection of wildlife from coal mining.

"Canadian Geographic" quoted him as saying, "I've always been bothered by excess consumption and wanton destruction of habitat. Human ethics must allow space for other lifeforms."


[ 10 July 2003: Message edited by: Sara Mayo ]


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I've been looking around to see whether anyone started a thread elsewhere about Katharine Hepburn, and don't see one.

Well, you can see one now, skdadl!


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Legendary Cuban Musician Compay Segundo is dead.
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Carol Shields has died, of breast cancer, at sixty-eight.

There is a link to a surprisingly good obit (especially from a bibliographical point of view) on the Sympatico home page, for those of you who have that.

I'll go looking for other links.

Although I was disappointed in some of her later writing, I thought that the Stone Diaries was both beautiful and brilliant.

Her last five or six years were obviously very hard, and yet she kept writing and publishing.

She was a noble and talented woman.


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Bob Hope at 100.
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Gosh.

Well, he could be funny, and he had style, although that style was outdated when I was watching him as a teenager, and that was a long time ago.


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[ 23 September 2003: Message edited by: Youngfox. ]


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Johnny Cash and John Ritter

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A64043-2003Sep12?language=printer

http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=3432257


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John Ritter!
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MIB: RIP.
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Ritter
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Johnny Cash is with June again, at least.
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Well, Best of Johnny Cash is in the CD tray. Don't quite know what to do for John Ritter though.

Favourite Johnny quote: "I don't dance, I don't tell jokes, or wear my pants too tight like a lot of entertainers do, but I do know about a thousand songs."


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Can you believe John Ritter died? I really was shocked. I love that show, 8 simple rules.

Truly a loss


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Damn. I remember Tex Ritter, also a charming man. I really hate it when people younger than I am die.

Well -- I am getting just generally hostile to death, I guess.


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posted 12 September 2003 05:28 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Tex Ritter died?!? How? When?
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It seems that Tex died in 1974, podner.
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Wow. I didn't even know he was ill.
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John Ritter was Tex Ritter's son.

I can't follow this thread anymore.


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Did anyone else see John Ritter as the abusive robot boyfriend of Buffy's mother? He was scary. He will be mostly remembered for his comedy but was a great dramatic actor as well.
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Gregory Hines died, too. That made me sad.
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Sheb Wooley No more Purple People Eater -
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My daughter will be devastated (not that either of us knew his name until today). Her soccer team this summer was nicknamed the Purple People Eaters.
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He will be mostly remembered for his comedy but was a great dramatic actor as well.

I stopped thinking of him as Jack Tripper when I saw him in Slingblade. And of course there'll always be The Waltons.


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from the NY Times:
quote:
[John Ritter was] the most natural actor I've seen since Jimmy Stewart," Peter Bogdanovich, the filmmaker, said in an interview in 1987.

and he killed his own child by kicking his pregnant wife in the stomach on law and order: SVU, talk about playing against jack tripper type.


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Jack Tripper was on the Waltons?
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Ya. He lived with Mary Ellen and Erin, but they had to pretend he was gay to get away with it.

(actually, he played a reverend)


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Gordon Jump of 'WKRP' and Maytag Ad Dies

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Jump played Arthur Carlson in "WKRP in Cincinnati," which aired on CBS from 1978-82 and featured Gary Sandy, Loni Anderson, Tim Reid, Howard Hesseman and Richard Sanders as the ragtag station's crew.

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Enough!
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Gordon Jump famously appeared on "a very special episode of Diff'rent Strokes" as a bicycle shop owner who befriends Arnold and molests best friend Dudley.
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quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:
Enough!

Confused. I have fond memories of WKRP. I thought others here might share those memories and want to know about this.


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Baby, if you've ever wondered,
Wondered whatever became of me,
I'm living on the air in Cincinnati,
Cincinnati, WKRP.


Got kind of tired packing and unpacking,
Town to town, up and down the dial.
Maybe you and me were never meant to be,
But baby think of me once in awhile.


I'm at WKRP in Cincinnati...


I also have fond memories of WKRP. I especially like Les's "walls".


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My fave les episode was when Les tried to say Karim Abdul-Jabbar and Chi-Chi Rodruiguez on the air...


'Chay-Chay-ROD-rig-way'

...

'CARE-'im AB-dool Jabber'


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I know it was cruel but the turkey episode was pretty funny.
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Och. I remember him. I have a Maytag, too, so I never got to meet him.

Sounds like a nice guy.


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Johnny Fever's public-service spot to fight drinking and driving. His reflexes improve as he gets drunker.
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The final scene in the episode where the local religious right have tried to pressure the station into banning a list of songs. When Travis suggests to Carlson that they sic Less Nesman on them, Carlson's reply is:

quote:
That could change the face of organized religion as we know it.

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Oh, I forgot about my other fave episode (love the ones others have mentioned):

When Johnny accidentally offers $10,000 as the prize for winning the 'recognise the songs' contest, so then they have to come up with a song series so complicated that no-one can possibly win it.


Also the episode where Venus is introduced - where he tells Johnny off-air that his name is 'Venus Rising', but Johnny gets it wrong and so his name forever more is 'Venus Flytrap'.


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Confused. I have fond memories of WKRP.

Me too. I'm just sick of all these people dying.

I liked when Venus called Mr. Carlson his dad at Venus' army deserter hearing.

Bailey's "nice raft" comment to Mr. Carlson was a giggle.


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I liked WKRP too. Sniff. Anyone watch 6 feet under?
It's very funny and I love the music.

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You know, you're gonna have to face it, you're addicted to love

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This is getting too sad. Why don't some right wing edgitts die instead. Like does the world really need David Duke.
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Author George Plimpton Dies at Age 76

It's been a brutal month.


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Or Jean-Marie Le Pen, for that matter. That old racist bastard - and former torturer - is getting rather long in the tooth.
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Count me another saddened Robert Palmer fan. Not so Much for his Music, though Sneakin' Sally through the Alley is one of my all-time favourite records, but for his music writing. His Deep Blues is a classic expositon of the mother of rock 'n' roll.

[ 26 September 2003: Message edited by: Sisyphus ]


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Edward Said? Plimpton, too? This is getting to be a terrible month.

As for Palmer, I was never a fan of his, nor of EL&P, but I've always liked this song:

quote:
He had white horses,
and ladies by the score
All dressed in satin,
and waiting by the door

ooh, what a lucky man he was,
ooh, what a lucky man he was.

White lace and feathers,
they made up his bed
A gold-covered mattress,
on which he was laid

He went to fight wars,
for his country and his king
For his honor and his glory,
the people would sing

A bullet had found him,
his blood ran as he cried
no money could save him,
so he laid down and he died



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Al-Q, ELP's Palmer was Carl Palmer. We're mourning Robert Palmer.

Edited to add:


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We're mourning Robert Palmer.

...who is not the same person as the Robert Palmer who wrote Deep Blues.

Oops.

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Edward Said is dead?!
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posted 26 September 2003 02:46 PM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Rebecca, see this thread.
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posted 26 September 2003 02:54 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Och, Plimpton too. Charming man, charming writer. He was one of those people you can't quite imagine aging and dying.

Gosh, I hope he managed to get somewhere with those memoirs this year. They should be fascinating.


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posted 26 September 2003 05:13 PM      Profile for Medea Callous     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Plimpton is dead? Oh, I'm crushed! I fell in love with him in 'When We Were Kings'.
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quote:
Originally posted by kuba walda:
This is getting too sad. Why don't some right wing edgitts die instead. Like does the world really need David Duke.

Duke is currently doing time for mail fraud in some US prison.


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posted 26 September 2003 10:15 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Al-Q, ELP's Palmer was Carl Palmer. We're mourning Robert Palmer.

Well, I did say I wasn't much of a fan...

I always thought he had done a strange musical transformation - from ELP to the guy with models playing air guitars.


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Donald O'Connor

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Los Angeles Entertainer Donald O'Connor, who combined comedy and acrobatics in the show-stopping Make 'Em Laugh number in the classic movie Singin' in the Rain, died Saturday. He was 78.

Mr. O'Connor, who had been in declining health in recent years, died of heart failure, his daughter, Alicia O'Connor, said.

It was in the 1950s that Mr. O'Connor made the films for which he was best known a series of highly successful Francis the Talking Mule comedies and movie musicals that put his song and dance talents to good use.

Songs in movie musicals are often touching or exciting, but Mr. O'Connor performed a rare feat with a number that were laugh-out-loud funny.

The best, 1952's Singin' in the Rain, also starred Gene Kelly and Debbie Reynolds and took a satirical look at Hollywood during the transition from silent to sound pictures.



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The guy who played "Whitey" on Leave it to Beaver has died.
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Stanley Farara. I remember the program but just a few of the characters.
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posted 27 September 2003 10:36 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I heard two Robert Palmer songs in a row yesterday on a radio station while driving and I thought, isn't that weird, must be one of those special days where they play two hits for each requested singer (e.g. "twofer Tuesdays"). Then they back-announced after the song that Palmer had died. I was pretty bummed out by that. I really liked him. I liked it that one of the songs they played was one of the less overplayed songs by him.

I was sure someone would mention it on babble.

I had also heard about Edward Said. That really sucks.

What is it with 54 year-olds kicking the bucket, anyhow? Robert Palmer and John Ritter. Really sucks. It's also strange in a weird way when people the same age as my parents are dying of stuff like heart attacks rather than accidents or overdoses.


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Aw nuts, Donald O'Connor too?

He was great in the 1944 picture, Follow the Boys, in which he and Peggy Ryan do a swell song and dance scene. I was just thinking about their tune, "Killer Diller Kittens" a couple of days ago.

His "Make 'em Laugh" number in Singin' in the Rain is one of the best things on film. My kids love it.


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Yes, O'Connor was great. Francis the Talking Mule ... gosh, that takes me back.

(See? I've now got to an age where I'm saying things like Gosh, that takes me back. )

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I was just thinking about their tune, "Killer Diller Kittens" a couple of days ago.

Oddly enough, I think I can follow that chain of association, al-Q.

[ 28 September 2003: Message edited by: skdadl ]


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Oops.

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Oddly enough, I think I can follow that chain of association, al-Q.

OK, I got the title wrong. It is "Kittens With their Mittens Laced". The chain ain't so very long.

An O'Connor Page


There's a brief clip of the tune here

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McCarthy era stool pigeon Elia Kazan is dead at 94.
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althea gibson, first black player to win wimbledon and u.s. open, dies at 76

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Althea Gibson, born in a sharecropper's shack in Silver, S.C., on Aug. 25, 1927, was brought to New York by her parents when she was a few months old. By chance, the family moved into an apartment on a West 143rd Street block between Lenox and Seventh Avenues that was a designated play street. When the volunteers from the Police Athletic League closed the block to traffic and set up their recreation equipment, the spot they chose to mark off as a paddle tennis court was right in front of the Gibsons' front stoop.

In 1950 she became the first black to compete in the United States nationals. She won 56 tournaments, including five Grand Slam singles titles — the United States nationals and Wimbledon twice, in 1957 and 1958, and the French championship in 1956.



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Oldest man in the world @ 114

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3147888.stm


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McCarthy era stool pigeon Elia Kazan is dead at 94

although in this case i wouldn't want to name names.


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Willowdale Wizard: Thanks for sharing your login name and password. Perhaps you should change your password now
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Mycroft

That login name and password is just for the NYT. Audra set it up so we can all read their stories without having to take the time to or share our personal information with NYT by registering.


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Kazan obit

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He insisted years later that he bore no guilt as a result of what some saw as a betrayal. "There's a normal sadness about hurting people, but I'd rather hurt them a little than hurt myself a lot," he said.

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His friendship with (Arthur) Miller was never the same after his congressional testimony. Kazan talked with Miller before he testified, and Miller later wrote in his journal about a side of his friend that he had not seen before: "He would have sacrificed me as well."

What a puke. Good riddance.


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Carl Fontana and Neil Postman both passed away. Ironic that the Schwarzenegger election overshadowed the death of a media critic.

Fontana:

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One day when Fontana was a child, his father, Collie, had walked into the house and placed a box in front of his son. "What's that?" asked Carl. "It's what you're going to play," his father told him, opening up the trombone case.

The Woody Herman band was playing at the Blue Room in New Orleans when its virtuoso trombone soloist Urbie Green had to return to New York for three weeks when his wife gave birth. A young local musician hired as a temporary replacement arrived in the band room. "Can I help you?" asked the tenor player Dick Hafer. "I'm here to replace Urbie Green," said Fontana. "You're here to replace Urbie Green?" repeated Hafer, as the band musicians roared with sardonic laughter.

In performance an hour or so later, their jaws dropped as Fontana ripped off a series of agile and eloquent solos that instantly announced him as a challenger to the crown of Jay Jay Johnson, the trombonist who dominated the era. From then on, Fontana never looked back and no one has ever challenged his supremacy. His several disciples approached his speed and technical agility, but no one ever matched his sublime streams of improvisation.



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quote:
Originally posted by robbie_dee:
Mycroft

That login name and password is just for the NYT. Audra set it up so we can all read their stories without having to take the time to or share our personal information with NYT by registering.


Although I like to think that W.Wizard's password is usually audraules anyway


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I set up the same one for, I believe, the Washington Post.
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The WaPo doesn't require registration. It only asks for gender, year and country of birth, and zip code if you're American. It seems to ask me about once a month or so.
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Michelle, I think you just got me in to the LA Times. Thanks.
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RIP Jack Elam
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Eliott Smith 1969-2003
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Carolyn Heilbrun (1926-2003) died a couple of weeks ago, and I should have paid tribute to her before now.

Here is her Wellesley College bio.

I knew her through her essays in journals like the New York Review rather than through her books. She was both a beautiful writer and a nervy, brave, bodacious rabble-rousing feminist, 'way ahead of my generation in her open challenges to a macho academic establishment. It was always a pleasure to see her name on a table of contents.

Ave atque vale.


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i was pretty bummed out about smith dying. "xo" is one of my favourite albums.
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June Carter Cash' daughter and Johnny Cash' stepdaughter Rosey Nix Adams died along with bluegrass fiddle player Jimmy Campbell died in a bus (which may have previously belonged to legend Bill Monroe) from carbon monoxide poisoning where apparently they were cooking heroin. Adams is also the half sister of Carlene Carter and stepsister of Roseanne Carter

http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2003/10/2703.cfm

When I first heard that Johnny Cash' stepdaughter died I assumed it was Carlene given the stench of death around her (two ex-boyfriends have died - one Francis Reidy III, a 21 year old she met in rehab and the other being Howie Epstein, bass player for Tom Petty). Carlene has also been arrested for possession of a stolen vehicle and heroin, writing bad checks, drunk driving (Reidy was killed when he walked drunk into a Jeep; Carter was driving back to the bar to get him drunk), and identity theft (she was phoning in Reidy's prescriptions after he died).


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for Montrealers:
i was very saddened to learn that Millie Ryerson died two tuesdays ago (the 14th i think). She was a very active woman in the peace movement and she was also Stanley Ryerson's widow. I met her once because in her home she had kept up her late husband's book collection which was open to the public - and fascinating.
Unfortunately she left no real family, and there was thus no obituaries in any of the papers (as far as i could tell). i only checked the Gazette and La Presse, and i would give full credit to anybabbler who could make a suggestion/recommendation which would lead me ultimately to finding at least some public recognition of her passing.
A sad day, and doubly sad for its accompanying silence.

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Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. I knew both the Ryersons. Perhaps the best course of action would be to ask around at the memorial commemoration of La ROBACK www.fondationlearoback.org this coming Sunday, at FACE school - on University Street, opposite the McGill Campus - in Montral. They were from the same circle of people who came out of the Communist Party, breaking with it over issues of democracy (mostly the revelations of Stalin's crimes, and the Hungarian Revolution) while remaining faithful to the reasons that motivated their commitment to revolutionary action in support of social justice and a better world.
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Rerun, from "What's Happening?".
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this thread.
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