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posted 23 October 2004 09:12 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In light of the CBC series, I thought people might be interested in how people were ranked in the original version.

Poor Ringo. The only Beatle not to make the list.

1. Sir Winston Churchill
2. Isambard Kingdom Brunel
3. Diana, Princess of Wales
4. Charles Darwin
5. William Shakespeare
6. Sir Isaac Newton
7. Queen Elizabeth I
8. John Lennon
9. Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson
10. Oliver Cromwell
11. Ernest Shackleton
12. Captain James Cook
13. Robert Baden-Powell, Baron Baden-Powell
14. King Alfred the Great
15. Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington
16. Margaret Thatcher, Baroness Thatcher
17. Michael Crawford
18. Queen Victoria
19. Sir Paul McCartney
20. Sir Alexander Fleming
21. Alan Turing
22. Michael Faraday
23. Owain Glyndwr
24. The Queen
25. Professor Stephen Hawking
26. William Tyndale
27. Emmeline Pankhurst
28. William Wilberforce
29. David Bowie
30. Guy Fawkes
31. Leonard Cheshire, Baron Cheshire of Woodall
32. Eric Morecambe
33. David Beckham
34. Thomas Paine
35. Boudicca
36. Sir Steve Redgrave
37. Sir Thomas More
38. William Blake
39. John Harrison
40. King Henry VIII
41. Charles Dickens
42. Sir Frank Whittle
43. John Peel
44. John Logie Baird
45. Aneurin Bevan
46. Boy George
47. Sir Douglas Bader
48. Sir William Wallace
49. Sir Francis Drake
50. John Wesley
51. King Arthur
52. Florence Nightingale
53. T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia)
54. Sir Robert Falcon Scott
55. Enoch Powell
56. Sir Cliff Richard
57. Sir Alexander Graham Bell
58. Freddie Mercury
59. Dame Julie Andrews
60. Sir Edward Elgar
61. Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother
62. George Harrison
63. Sir David Attenborough
64. James Connolly
65. George Stephenson
66. Sir Charlie Chaplin
67. Tony Blair
68. William Caxton
69. Bobby Moore
70. Jane Austen
71. William Booth
72. King Henry V
73. Aleister Crowley
74. King Robert the Bruce
75. Bob Geldof
76. The Unknown Warrior
77. Robbie Williams
78. Edward Jenner
79. David Lloyd George, 1st Earl Lloyd George
80. Charles Babbage
81. Geoffrey Chaucer
82. King Richard III
83. J.K. Rowling
84. James Watt
85. Sir Richard Branson
86. Bono
87. John Lydon (Johnny Rotten)
88. Bernard Law Montgomery, 1st Viscount Montgomery of Alamein
89. Donald Campbell
90. King Henry II
91. James Clerk Maxwell
92. J.R.R. Tolkien
93. Sir Walter Raleigh
94. King Edward I
95. Sir Barnes Wallis
96. Richard Burton
97. Tony Benn
98. David Livingstone
99. Sir Tim Berners-Lee
100. Marie Stopes


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posted 23 October 2004 09:16 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Channel 4 decided to spoof the whole thing with the 100 Worst Britons We Love to Hate.

I'm glad to see that Lady Thatcher ranked much higher on this list.

People marked with an asterisk also appear on the top 100.

1. Tony Blair (*)
2. Jordan
3. Margaret Thatcher, Baroness Thatcher (*)
4. Jade Goody
5. Martin Bashir
6. Gareth Gates
7. Alex Ferguson
8. H from Steps
9. Geri Halliwell
10. The Queen (*)
11. Liam Gallagher
12. Chris Evans
13. Victoria Beckham
14. Rik Waller
15. Anthea Turner
16. Bernard Manning
17. Robbie Williams (*)
18. Peter Stringfellow
19. Neil and Christine Hamilton
20. Jim Davidson
21. Charlotte Church
22. Darren Day
23. Lady Victoria Hervey
24. HRH The Prince of Wales
25. Anne Robinson
26. Edwina Currie
27. Chris Moyles
28. Jamie Oliver
29. Cliff Richard (*)
30. Max Clifford
31. The 3AM Girls
32. Naomi Campbell
33. Simon Cowell
34. Sara Cox
35. Harry Potter - who appears on this list despite being a fictional character and therefore not strictly eligible for inclusion
36. Tara Palmer-Tomkinson
37. James Hewitt
38. Andrew Lloyd Webber
39. Catherine Zeta-Jones
40. The Earl of Wessex
41. Tracey Emin
42. Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen
43. Mick Hucknall
44. Michael Winner
45. Pete Waterman
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Ainsley Harriott
48. Trinny and Susannah
49. Peter Mandelson
50. Ken Livingstone
51. Darius Danesh
52. Amanda Holden
53. Zoë Ball
54. Martine McCutcheon
55. Elton John
56. Ant and Dec
57. Alastair Campbell
58. Ozzy Osbourne
59. Stephen Byers and Jo Moore
60. Richard Madeley
61. Vinnie Jones
62. Alan Titchmarsh
63. The Countess of Wessex
64. Chris Tarrant
65. Ben Elton
66. Jeremy Clarkson
67. Jeremy Spake
68. Carol Vorderman
69. David Dickinson
70. Frank Skinner
71. Paul Burrell
72. Tom Jones
73. Sarah, Duchess of York
74. Carol Smillie
75. Liz Hurley
76. The Princess Royal
77. Guy Ritchie
78. Delia Smith
79. Johnny Vaughan
80. Peter Tatchell
81. Sting
82. Gordon Ramsay
83. Mick Jagger
84. Damien Hirst
85. Julie Burchill
86. Richard Branson (*)
87. John Prescott
88. Judith Chalmers
89. Cherie Blair
90. Nigella Lawson
91. David Beckham (*)
92. Will Young
93. Vanessa Feltz
94. Ann Widdecombe
95. Davina McCall
96. Chris Eubank
97. The Lord Irvine of Lairg
98. Craig David
99. Iain Duncan Smith
100. Atomic Kitten - actually a band, not a person


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posted 23 October 2004 09:21 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have no idea why Princess Diana is on the list.
Oliver Cromwell? The hell with that.
Thatcher? THATCHER?
Michael Crawford? That guy from that really bad 70's sitcom when all he ever said was 'ooh, Betty!' and fell over a lot? WTF?
If it was up to me, Turing would be in the top 3.
Henry VIII? No fuckin' way!
Nye Bevan should be in the top 3.
Boy George? At least he's behind John Peel.
ENOCH POWELL? FUCK, WHERE'S OSWALD MOSELEY, THEN?
Henry V? The George W Bush of the fifteenth century.
Crowley? OK. That's kinda cool.
Robbie Williams? ROBBIE WILLIAMS?
Chaucer should be higher up.
Nice to see Richard III get some recognition, but he doesn't deserve to be in the top 100.
Bono above Lydon? For shame!
King Edward I? What, kill a lot of Scots and get in, is that the rule? Fuckers.
Tony Benn? Yeah.

Weird how Owain Glyndywr is in but William Wallace isn't.

The fact that Andy Partridge, Ivor Cutler, Jeremy Paxman, Chris Morris or Tom Baker did not make the list is clearly criminal. Obviously.


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posted 23 October 2004 09:29 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nice to know that these lists are as silly and useless -- vom-worthy, I believe Stephen Fry would say -- on the other side of the pond as here.

And just why isn't Stephen Fry on the list, hmmm? Answer me that, O BBC!


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posted 23 October 2004 09:34 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 'lance:
Nice to know that these lists are as silly and useless -- vom-worthy, I believe Stephen Fry would say -- on the other side of the pond as here.

And just why isn't Stephen Fry on the list, hmmm? Answer me that, O BBC!



It is my personal opinion that the 100 greatest Britons are people none of us have heard of.
Long may they remain so.


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posted 23 October 2004 09:36 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll drink to that.

"Ladies and gentlemen -- to obscurity! The only antidote to the possibly terminal illness of the culture, i.e. celebrimania."


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posted 23 October 2004 09:44 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Absolutely. The only thing these polls ever prove is a the relative popularity of various celebrities at a particular point in time.

I'll second Fry, a fabulous talent.

Speaking of Fry, note the strange absence of a man who could top the list, Mr. Oscar Wilde.


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posted 23 October 2004 09:49 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Quite. Well, as a man who lived in terror of not being misunderstood, I'm sure he'd actually be gratified not to be counted among the Great. It would confirm his opinion of his own genius.

On to something interesting: have you heard that Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie are going to play Holmes and Watson? Entire nations slapped their foreheads and cried "Of course!" It sounds to me truly brilliant casting, and I hope it works.


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posted 23 October 2004 09:52 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I rather liked them as Jeeves and Wooster, but its more believeable with Fry as the dominant partner and Laurie as the sidekick.
Mind you, I suppose that was the set-up in Jeeves and Wooster, thinking about it.

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posted 23 October 2004 09:56 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, really. He has a good heart, Bertie Wooster -- more or less -- but lacks the sense God gave to a side of ham. Jeeves is a rare example of a literary protagonist you can mistake for a sidekick, if you're not paying close enough attention.
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posted 23 October 2004 10:48 PM      Profile for chimo        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I want to see the lists for the USA, Germany, Russia/USSR, Greece, France, China & Japan, if they exist. Those would be pretty interesting. I would still change a lot of things on ours. I still think that any list of greatest Canadians that's missing Glenn Gould, Sir William Osler, Margaret Atwood, Bertram Brockhouse, Lew Urry and John Charles Fields can't really be taken seriously.

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posted 23 October 2004 11:20 PM      Profile for Islander     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Churchill is a good choice, but I'm not sure about Diana placing ahead of Shakespeare and Newton. I doubt school children will be reading about Diana in 400 years.
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Churchill does not deserve to be above Shakespeare. As a wartime leader he was phenomenal. As a peacetime leader he was lousy.
He's top 10, but he's not #1.

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quote:
It is my personal opinion that the 100 greatest Britons are people none of us have heard of.

It's a typo. It's supposed to be the 100 greatest Bretons...which would explain Robbie Williams' presence on the list, I'm sure.

Where are Maggie Smith and Lynn Redgrave?


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posted 24 October 2004 02:06 AM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Lord Byron:
Michael Crawford? That guy from that really bad 70's sitcom when all he ever said was 'ooh, Betty!' and fell over a lot? WTF?

No, the guy who starred in Phantom of the Opera.


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posted 24 October 2004 02:26 AM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by RealityBites:

No, the guy who starred in Phantom of the Opera.


It's the same guy, believe it or not.
Some Mothers Do Have 'Em - That was the show.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/448037.stm

Have I mentioned how much I utterly despise Andrew Lloyd Webber?

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posted 27 October 2004 04:29 PM      Profile for Junkyard Dog     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Obviously, the Greatest Briton is Edmund Blackadder. Closely followed by Mr. S. Baldrick (mainly for his cunning plan of solving the problem of his mother's low ceiling by cutting off her head), Ploppy, Mrs. Ploppy, Lord Percy Percy, Sir Talbot Buxomley, Pitt the Younger, Pitt the Toddler, Pitt the Embryo and Pitt the Glint in The Milkman's Eye.
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posted 27 October 2004 04:36 PM      Profile for gopi     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good god is that ever a white list. Or did I blink and miss Salman Rushdie?
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posted 27 October 2004 04:39 PM      Profile for pebbles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by gopi:
Good god is that ever a white list. Or did I blink and miss Salman Rushdie?

Britain was, until recently, a very, very, very white country.


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posted 27 October 2004 04:42 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
JunkyardDog:

quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Lord Byron:
I rather liked them as Jeeves and Wooster, but its more believeable with Fry as the dominant partner and Laurie as the sidekick.
Mind you, I suppose that was the set-up in Jeeves and Wooster, thinking about it.

D'you know, I once saw Fry do both, Jeeves and Wooster as a one-man show? Virtuoso performance, as they say.

Yeah, it's a white list, and not much of a literary list. Julie Andrews outranks Jane Austen and Geoffrey Chaucer? Except for Shakespeare, you have to get to #38 before you find another writer? In a country with that literature?


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posted 27 October 2004 04:48 PM      Profile for gopi     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Britain was, until recently, a very, very, very white country.

Have plans been made from them to enter the 20th century any time soon? Or are they still sore about losing all those colonies they felt were their right to govern and exploit?


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Bob Geldof and Bono are Irish, both born in Dublin... Bono still lives there (not sure about Geldof)... how is it they make the list?
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quote:
... how is it they make the list?

And Virginia Woolf doesn't. I suppose it could have been worse: it could have been front-loaded with Spice Girls.


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posted 27 October 2004 05:35 PM      Profile for Ki No Ronin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I found room for Ringo!

Alexander Graham Bell was Canadian, not British, so you can tall AGB off the list and put on Ringo Starr.

Ki No Ronin


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posted 27 October 2004 05:39 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ki No Ronin:
I found room for Ringo!

Alexander Graham Bell was Canadian, not British, so you can tall AGB off the list and put on Ringo Starr.

Ki No Ronin


Bollocks. Alexander Graham Bell was a Scot.
Of course, that doesn't make him British either.


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posted 27 October 2004 05:41 PM      Profile for Ki No Ronin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I did not know most of the people on the Most Hated List, but I do agree with Mick Jagger (that Egotisticaly Jackass!!!) being on the list.

However, I have no idea why or how Elton John got on the Most Hated list.

Ki No Ronin


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posted 27 October 2004 05:46 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi, just a little tip: It's considered "bad form" on Rabble to sign your posts, since your name already appears to the left.
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