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Anchoress
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posted 28 March 2005 12:45 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What's with America and baseball? Actually I know the answer but it's a cool-sounding question.

I think my favourite baseball movie is Stealing Home, a not-well-known but wonderfully-done coming-of-age baseball movie with Jodie Foster and Mark Harmon. Honourable mention goes to Field of Dreams, A League of Their Own and The Natural.

Worst? I don't think I've ever seen a really bad baseball movie, mostly because I'm not too fond of the genre (despite being able to name about ten of them off the top of my head), so I refuse to see one unless it's highly recommended or gets stellar reviews. But did Kevin Costner make *any* good baseball movies besides FoD?


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posted 28 March 2005 12:48 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sandlot was AWESOME.

I still watch that move to this day.


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posted 28 March 2005 12:57 AM      Profile for Bobolink   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Damn Yankees, Bang the Drum Slowly, It Happens Every Spring, Bull Durham

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posted 28 March 2005 12:59 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bobolink, is that your best or worst list?
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posted 28 March 2005 02:10 AM      Profile for Bobolink   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's a personal favourites list. If I were to rank them, it would be:

Bang the Drum Slowly - probably the best movie ever about baseball players in the days of low salaries. It was released in 1973, one year before Andy Messerschmidt broke the Reserve Clause and instituted free agency.

Damn Yankees - A great musical about baseball and the devil with choreography by Bob Fosse and great songs.

It Happens Every Spring - Almost a precurser to The Absent Minded Professor and about how cheating is an integral part of baseball.

Bull Durham - Keven Costner and Susan Sarandon. Buck Martinez claims it really does (from a humerous aspect) depict life in the low minors.

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posted 28 March 2005 09:47 AM      Profile for Krago     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was twelve when I saw "The Bad News Bears" and I thought it was The Greatest Movie Ever Made.

I still think it's pretty good. The sequels suck though.


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posted 28 March 2005 12:02 PM      Profile for Charles   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Eight Men Out, one of my top ten films of all time about the 1919 "Black Sox" scandal. Brilliant film which actually featured a young Charlie Sheen in a role where he didn't suck(!)...

Bull Durham was a great film, back when Costner was tolerale.

I enjoyed the Sandlot too...


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posted 30 March 2005 02:20 AM      Profile for angrymonkey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anchoress, I would echo your list(but adding Bull Durham).
Bobolink- I guess you're talking about the deniro bang the drum(1973)and not the paul newman version?(1956). I keep intending to watch this one.

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posted 31 March 2005 12:03 AM      Profile for Bobolink   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm talking about the Robert Deniro/Michael Moriarity verson from 1973 as I pointed out in my secont post. I've never seen the kinescope of the TV play of 1956 so can't comment on it.

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posted 31 March 2005 09:13 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Eight Men Out is one of my favourites. It stars John Cusack as Buck Weaver, D.B. Sweeney as Shoeless Joe Jackson (probably his best role ever), and a host of other good B-list actors as the infamous Chicago Black Sox of 1919.

Heh. What Charles said.


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Besides 8 Men Out and the Natural, which are two excellent baseball movies (although The Natural is quite a deviation from the source novel), a couple of others I really like are:

The Life and Times of Hank Greenberg: a great documentary about the career of the first great Jewish player and the anti-Semitism he faced in the 30's and 40's playing for the Tigers. If there are any producers out there I'm claiming the story of Sandy Koufax as a potential companion piece.

Fear Strikes Out: Great Anthony Perkins flick about parental pressure and mental illness. The story of the Red Sox' Jimmy Piersall.

Cobb: I didn't like this the first time I saw it. However, I came across the book by Al Stump, watched it again and picked up on a lot of things I missed the first time. Any movie would have a hard time portraying what a complete and unredeemable bastard Ty Cobb was and hope to make any money.

Pride of the Yankees. What can I say? I love the Yanks.


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posted 31 March 2005 10:38 AM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think Bull Durham is far and away the best baseball movie I've seen. Let's not forget about Tim Robbins as Nuke LaDuke.

I can't think of a worst off the top of my head, though wasn't there a movie with Joey from friends and an ape who plays baseball? Would that one count?


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posted 31 March 2005 11:37 AM      Profile for Bobolink   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you want a baseball movie that is painfull to watch, you could chose Safe at Home!. I'm glad Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, Whitey Ford and Ralph Houk didn't give up their day jobs.

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posted 31 March 2005 11:53 AM      Profile for Tommy Shanks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
LaLoosh, Nuke LaLoosh. One of the great screen names of all time.

And the Joey / Ape movie? I think that was a hockey picture, which would vault it near the top of that genre. Add Rob Lowe and you have perfection.


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posted 31 March 2005 11:58 AM      Profile for Sports Guy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kingblake:
I think Bull Durham is far and away the best baseball movie I've seen. Let's not forget about Tim Robbins as Nuke LaDuke.

While I love Tim Robbins as an actor, he can't throw, which made the scenes of him as a supposedly big armed pitcher un-bearable to watch.

How come nobody has mentioned Major League?


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Briguy
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posted 31 March 2005 03:18 PM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Major League 2 = worst baseball movie ever.
Major League = second worst.

Admittedly, I've never watched the Bad News Bears sequels, nor the monkey movie. They could win out over the Major Leagues.

Ask and ye shall receive, Sports Guy.


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Bobolink
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posted 31 March 2005 07:16 PM      Profile for Bobolink   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another enjoyable, if minor, film is Mr. Baseball with an amiable Tom Sellick playing a "fish out of water" American baseball player near the end of his career trying to adjust to playing in the Japanese leagues.
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