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Michelle
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posted 30 July 2007 03:03 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't think this is a big problem, personally, but then, I don't work in some ultra-business environment in a button-down corporate firm, either.

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More than once, Alexis Feldman, the director of the Feldman Realty Group, a commercial real estate company in Manhattan, has been moving forward on a major deal when, she said, “at the 23rd hour, I get an e-mail from the broker saying, ‘Sorry, my client is not interested in the space, too bad we couldn’t make the big bucks’ — then there’s a frown face!”

“I mean, it’s ludicrous,” said Ms. Feldman, 25. “I’m not going to feel better about losing hundreds of thousands of dollars because someone puts a frown face to regretfully inform me.”

Emoticons, she added, should be reserved for use by “naïve tweens on AOL Instant Messenger finding out after-school soccer practice is canceled.”

If only.


[ 30 July 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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posted 30 July 2007 03:36 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well Golly!


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Stargazer
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posted 30 July 2007 03:57 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That was surprisingly a very good read. Thanks Michelle. Ah, the use of emoticons. I feel for Alexis Feldman, I really do. Resist resist resist. I really really do not like to use them but often find I'll use the to connote I'm not not too serious, or to take the edge off something I've said.

A far worse IM crime is the use of slang and short hand for words. Too lazy to type out the full word? Sorry can't date you (so my son always says about the girls he talks to on IM).

U R = You are
Tme = time

Maybe I'm just old but both the emoticons and the short hand of words annoy me. Actually, I don't even use IM as a form of communication. I prefer the telephone or an e-mail.


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Michelle
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posted 30 July 2007 05:26 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm an emoticon addict, but I'm with you on the short-forming of words. It makes me nuts. I know it's a generation gap thing and I shouldn't be a snob about it, especially since everyone doesn't type 90 wpm the way I do, but I still can't stand it.
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West Coast Greeny
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posted 03 August 2007 05:45 PM      Profile for West Coast Greeny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
omg
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M.Gregus
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posted 16 August 2007 05:44 AM      Profile for M.Gregus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, this is the first I've come across the term "QQ" to mean two eyes crying, so this article has been educational as well as informative. I like the use of emoticons in casual writing because to my eye, well-placed smilies give what might otherwise be relatively flat text an extra bit of warmth. It helps make up for the friendly facial expressions you might get in a chat, in a kind of short-hand.
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posted 16 August 2007 05:56 AM      Profile for 1234567     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I bet people who use emoticons also have a lot of stuffed animals. Some people just like stuff around. They don't like white space.
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Albireo
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posted 16 August 2007 06:38 AM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons, consumed with anger: "There is no emoticon for what I'm feeling!"


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M.Gregus
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posted 16 August 2007 07:35 AM      Profile for M.Gregus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Albireo:
Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons, consumed with anger: "There is no emoticon for what I'm feeling!"

In this case, the following emoticon pretty accurately describes what I'm feeling:


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Sven
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posted 16 August 2007 08:27 AM      Profile for Sven     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I use emoticons regularly when I send an I.M. to my Sweetie or to one of my nieces or when I post here on babble (I actually wish we had more emoticon options here at babble!). But that’s casual conversation. I never use them in a formal communication at work (and most of my work communication is formal). As the article noted, using emoticons is “arguably as dignified as dotting one’s I’s with kitten faces”.

The same is true with abbreviated “R U there”-type text messages. Again, those are great for casual communication when typing on a phone’s keypad but, in my opinion, as unacceptable as dotting an “i” with a kitten face in any formal communication.

If a person can fluidly switch between using these shortcuts and using formal prose, depending on the type of communication, that’s great. But, too many young people couldn’t write a clear sentence, let alone a clear paragraph, if their lives depended on it. The constant use of shortcuts does nothing to help develop the necessary skill of writing clear and concise prose.

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posted 16 August 2007 08:31 AM      Profile for jrose     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My former better half has made fun of me for years for the fact that I haven't evolved with the "emoticon-times," meaning, he thinks I'm the only one who uses =) or =( to indicate my feelings instead of a or a . My lack of emoticon use has become my signature, :-D /
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M.Gregus
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posted 16 August 2007 02:55 PM      Profile for M.Gregus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Sven:
If a person can fluidly switch between using these shortcuts and using formal prose, depending on the type of communication, that’s great. But, too many young people couldn’t write a clear sentence, let alone a clear paragraph, if their lives depended on it. The constant use of shortcuts does nothing to help develop the necessary skill of writing clear and concise prose.

It's a hard habit to break in the other direction too. My inclination in most writing is to use full words and sentences, because it’s time-consuming to keep up with an ever-developing lexicon, and it feels fake or like I’m trying too hard to write “ur” rather than “you’re” in the name of short cuts. But that can make for a tedious experience on something like IM. I can see how it's annoying to encounter formal prose on a medium that relies on informal short cuts to function smoothly. Switching successfully between writing styles also depends in part on being technologically savvy enough to develop the skill to use the appropriate style well.


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West Coast Greeny
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posted 16 August 2007 08:32 PM      Profile for West Coast Greeny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I personally use emoticons quite often, but I will die before I start typing my words shorthand on MSN!
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Skinny Dipper
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posted 17 August 2007 05:16 PM      Profile for Skinny Dipper   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm all set for a First-Past-the-Post alert:

Severe
High
Elevated
Guarded
Low

Can anyone tell me what TAT means?


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Michelle
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posted 17 August 2007 05:22 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There are a couple of shorthands I use. Like BTW. And not very often, but occasionally OMG, usually in kind of an ironic way. But I can't see myself embracing shortforms like "u" and "r".
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M.Gregus
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posted 18 August 2007 05:01 AM      Profile for M.Gregus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When shorthand moves into the four-letter range, my understanding starts to break down. I'm embarrassed to say that I stumbled over TTYL and YMMV for the longest time.
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Michelle
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posted 18 August 2007 05:10 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How about the five-letter range?

IANAL?


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M.Gregus
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posted 18 August 2007 08:08 AM      Profile for M.Gregus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am COMPLETELY lost at five letters and beyond! Does IANAL really mean I Am Not A Lawyer?! That I would never, ever, ever, have figured out without the aid of google. Of course, it's only last week that I ran across the concept of lolcats for the very first time.
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posted 18 August 2007 08:32 AM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had to google YMMV to get the answer to that one.

But, FYI, I can buy items related to YMMV on amazon.


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Sharon
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posted 18 August 2007 08:41 AM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Can anyone tell me what TAT means?

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Michelle
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posted 18 August 2007 12:35 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bigcitygal:
I had to google YMMV to get the answer to that one.

Well, GFE, you know.


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Skinny Dipper
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posted 19 August 2007 10:13 AM      Profile for Skinny Dipper   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
thx shron 4 tlling me wat tat meens. i didnt no that tat wuz on the radar. snafu. I wonder if I type smile face symbols if I will get anything. :q :b :g
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