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Farmpunk
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posted 03 March 2008 04:20 AM      Profile for Farmpunk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Am I the only person on the planet who thinks that IPODs are useless pieces of shit? I got one for Xmas. I tried using it at first, got frustrated, put it away. This morning I spent half an hour attempting to get a CBC podcast onto my ipod, and failed. So, the ipod got frisbeed into the wall and now it's not working. But even before I rendered it non-functional it was one of the most disappointing pieces of technology I've used. The device itself seems to be designed for children with small fingers, not blunt farmer hands. I couldn't figure out ITunes, either. Intuitive? Seamless? How about overly complicated and generally useless? How many steps does a person have to go through just to get an audio file from desktop to ipod??

Anyone else think that the Ipod is one of the most over-rated pieces of technology around? Of course, if you think Ipods are great, let me know that, too. I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, and once I get my nano repaired, maybe I'll agree.


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posted 03 March 2008 04:45 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have no idea what an iPod is. I've never advanced beyond a simple desktop computer, although it has a CD-ROM. I've never used, in addition to an iPod, a Blackberry (although I like blackberries in my fruit salad), a cellphone, a DVD, and probably other stuff out there as well. I prefer simplicity in all things; recently I brought a HD tv to replace my faithful Sears 27" from 1995; I tried to hook it up to my 1992 SONY stereo to play the TV sound through my monster stereo speakers, and discovered it won't work - my stereo is analog technology, while this modern HDTV is all digital technology, and needs a digital receiver!!! Aw, crap.
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posted 03 March 2008 05:05 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I feel for you both, and while I am pretty up there on technology ( I recently bought a second DVD writer for my computer), I have a hard time with my iPOD. In fact, I haven't changed the music on it for almost a year due to iTunes being horrible to work with. Then there is the fact that when you plug it is, you need to have iPOD updater, and it must be upt-todate (which mine never is) and then iTunes, which is a memory hog.

Prior to the iPOD Nano I have now, I had a brand new 30 gig iPOD, which died on me after about 2 months of use. That was over 500 dollars for nothing.


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jrose
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posted 03 March 2008 05:18 AM      Profile for jrose     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I advise everyone I know not to get an Ipod. I worked at one of those big box retailers that sell Ipods for years, and a day didn't go by where we didn't get a few of them back for repairs/exchanges. As if that isn't bad enough, Apple isn't always the best company to deal with either. It's unfortunate, because I'd love to buy one, but I'd rather stick with my trusty minidisc player.
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posted 03 March 2008 06:32 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The thing about the iPod is that its engine is brilliant. The click-wheel is by far the easiest and most efficient maneuvering system on the market (sorry about your thick fingers, fp).

But for me (disclaimer for the purposes of full disclosure: I own an iPod nano) that's where the pleasure ends. First: it is disposable technology--not like most technology is disposable, but literally. The battery is designed to be irreplaceable (although take it to a shop that can! It voids the warranty, but it's worth it). They will, however, give you a discount on your next iPod purchase. Or perhaps you'd like to upgrade to our new iPhone?

Next: iTunes and the iStore. The new iPods are essentially flash drives. Which means you should be able to transfer movies to and from as easily as your USB drive. iTunes simply won't have that. If you lose the file during transfer, no problem! You can buy it again for about a dollar! Remember when I said Apple invested in disposable technology? As you can see, it's not an accident, it's a mantra.

And I won't get into the problems raised by the radical commodification and consumerism espoused by Apple. That's a much larger riddle--and it's not exactly Apple's fault, is it? THey're just exceedingly good at it.


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Makwa
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posted 03 March 2008 06:45 AM      Profile for Makwa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry, I'm going to plug Ipod. I love my 80gig Ipod Classic, although I had to upgrade my windows OS to get Itunes to work, and you have to convert all your avi files to mp4 - takes a little bit, but the quality is good.
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RosaL
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posted 03 March 2008 07:33 AM      Profile for RosaL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been using the same ipod for years and it's still going strong. I've got all kinds of things on it: books, podcasts, music. I can't put movies on it - not that I have any desire to do that - because it's an old model.
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viigan
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posted 03 March 2008 08:50 AM      Profile for viigan     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have every album I ever owned on my ipod - though I still think of it as a Walkman.
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Farmpunk
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posted 03 March 2008 09:16 AM      Profile for Farmpunk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ah, my original post was written while I was still very angry about not being able to get the god damned podcast into the ipod. I guess I should - maybe - have asked advice before chucking the thing across the room like a ninja star. Still, I wondered if I was the only person around who thought that ITunes was a clumsy piece of software. I have no doubt that the ipod itself works well, even considering the fact that I can't seem to work the wheel very well. Audio quality seems good, it's nice and compact. Really, I should like the unit. But I don't. And now that mine is broken, I'm feeling some guilt, since it was a gift. I think I'm about to find out how well Apple's customer service works.

Is there a drag and drop function with Itunes? Once mine is fixed, or replaced, who'll give me a tutorial? Pretty please?


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posted 03 March 2008 09:22 AM      Profile for angrymonkey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Threw it against the wall?
There's tons of help and software for it online everywhere.
I helped get my sisters going and it seemed easy enough to me.

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RosaL
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posted 03 March 2008 09:24 AM      Profile for RosaL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll help you, once you get it fixed Let me know ....
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Farmpunk
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posted 03 March 2008 09:34 AM      Profile for Farmpunk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, anger. It's the luddite showing through. Or the lack of patience. I will make ammends. Tractor season is coming up and that's when I'm going to need some long hours of fun audio.
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posted 03 March 2008 10:30 AM      Profile for farnival     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Farmpunk:

...Is there a drag and drop function with Itunes? Once mine is fixed, or replaced, who'll give me a tutorial? Pretty please?


iTunes and iPods are based almost exclusively on "drag and drop". don't think complicated thoughts. breathe. iTunes will work quite nicely if you set up your preferences properly, as will any software (though on a pc you may have conflicts with other software, but i doubt iTunes is one of those).

one of the best things you can do is in the main screen that comes up when you plug in your iPod and it mounts, is to turn on the "manually manage music" . this turns off the sycronise function and allows you to use the device as a simple "drag and drop" music player. if you use a shareware program like Senuti (there are others for the PC), you can use the iPod as a two way device, letting you grab an album from a buddy, then when you get home, load it up into your own iTunes.

the thing i find most ironic about the whole mac/pc user war-of-words, is the complaint that seems to come up most is how simplistic apple devices are. um, that's so you can get on with listening to music while doing something else, instead of spending half your life programming the damn thing.

farmpunk, you might want to check out a company called Otterbox. they make completely waterproof cases for the nano and other iPods, submersible to 3 metres. why should this interest you? well, read "waterproof" as "dust and dirtproof". perfect for being out on the land, groovin' away with not a care in the world about screwing up your nano, as well as it being pretty damn robust, so if you should find yourself in the middle of another luddite-rage, will give some impact protection! i've got a nano, and since day one, a hard case for "dry" use (it's not sealed but does protect it in your pocket and from knocking about) and an otterbox for any activity that might compromise it's safety. it's going on two years now and not a single problem. you can also get a really cool pelican case that is adapted to hold the iPod and is totally water and crush proof.

the problem i have the new Touch/iPhones are really cool and the extra features would be amazingly useful, but the nano keeps on ticking and i can't really justify a new one if the old one works just as new.

remember, think simple. it'll work.

[ 03 March 2008: Message edited by: farnival ]


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farnival
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posted 03 March 2008 10:33 AM      Profile for farnival     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
doh! double post!

[ 03 March 2008: Message edited by: farnival ]


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B.L. Zeebub LLD
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posted 03 March 2008 11:08 AM      Profile for B.L. Zeebub LLD     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've got one. It works just fine. ITunes is fine. No problems. My only complaint is needing 3rd party software to get music off of the Ipod one at a time. Other than that (touch wood) it's a brilliant little piece of technology.
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Scout
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posted 03 March 2008 11:45 AM      Profile for Scout     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We had a 1st gen iPod Shuffle go through a entire wash and half a dryer cycle. It still works. I love my iPod, I watch TV on it on the way to work. I tunes is easy peasy, drag and drop.
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Makwa
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posted 03 March 2008 11:53 AM      Profile for Makwa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
oops

[ 03 March 2008: Message edited by: Makwa ]


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Farmpunk
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posted 03 March 2008 02:53 PM      Profile for Farmpunk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Shit. I knew I should have consulted the rabble podgeeks first, before passing eternal judgement on my poor nano. I'll get the damn thing repaired and then we'll see.

Confused rural person question, and not an attack, but the constant ipod\media thing... strikes me as odd. Or maybe I'm just not a music fan to the point where I need to have tunes at the ready.


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Doug
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posted 03 March 2008 03:08 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm happy with my iPod. It's especially nice for taking my music collection to work.
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Farmpunk
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posted 03 March 2008 03:23 PM      Profile for Farmpunk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I'm stuck in a tractor - one of my least favourite jobs... I like to mix a local rock station with CBC radio. But I need something else for when the Ceeb ain't doing it for me. Podcasts would be ideal.
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Farmpunk
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posted 04 March 2008 04:42 AM      Profile for Farmpunk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Okay, Apple, I apologize, partially. Turns out my nano isn't broken. The impact with the wall just clicked the on-off switch. Tougher than I expected.

Okay, now, did someone offer a tutorial??


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posted 04 March 2008 05:20 AM      Profile for Scout     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You can get a set of iPod headphones that have not only a remote so you don't have to pull out your iPod to switch tracks but it also acts as a radio. I have it and I love it.

The iTunes help menu is pretty good, at least on my mac it is, not sure on the PC. It actually answers your questions in straight forward language.

Have you subscribed to the podcast? This downloads it to your computer so you can put it on your iPod. If iy's grayed out it hasn't downloaded, a double click on it should sort that out. I made the mistake of subscribing to way too many, like 8 gigs worth! Once it's downloaded you should be able to click and drag it to your iPod. You can also synch your iPod to the Podcast you like so that iTunes will always get the lastest podcast and uploaded it to your iPod everytime you plug it in.

If you have the latest iTunes, when you plug in your iPod you should get a bunch of tabs - Music, Movies, Podcast I think. I also get Photos, Contacts and my Calendar. Click the podcast tab and selectthe Podcast you want to load. You will also need to go to your preference menu and set up how often you want iTunes to check for new podcasts.

Drag and drop is the simplest way for a newbie though. But once you figure out the Synching you'll dig it.

If you need more info, I'll have to get back to you later, I'm on my work PC now not my baby.


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jrose
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posted 05 March 2008 05:26 AM      Profile for jrose     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did IPods Cause a Crime Wave?

quote:
But could the temptation for stealing iPods be so strong that they're behind an increase in the crime rate? Researchers at a public policy institute say yes.


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Polly Brandybuck
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posted 05 March 2008 09:44 AM      Profile for Polly Brandybuck     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've always wondered why ipod didn't set up some kind of theft deterrent...like maybe every thirty days you have to input a password to turn it back on or something. My son has had his ipod stolen twice.

Me, I love my ipod. I have one of the older ones, so no movies but it doesn't matter. I can live without videos but not without my music.

I especially like it when I am in the middle of a big painting/cleaning/gardening project and I don't want to hear my kids interupting me.


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dartanyon
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Ipod Touch/Phone has a code you need to put in if you enable that option. There are also ipod security cables out there:

Security Lock

I bought an IPod touch a while back, its been the most useful thing ever, cant wait for the phone, some of the things Ive used it for:

-Watching movies/tv on a 14 hour plane ride
-Hooking it up to a sound system on a boat in the Galapagos
-Storing backups of passports and plane tickets
-Showing foreign taxi drivers where I want to go
-Remote Banking
-Using it as a cooking timer
-Sharing my attempts at photography
-Getting around webmail filters at work
-And listening to music too

Anyways, Im not particularily fond of apple as a company, but this thing is one of the most useful devices Ive had...

I think this is my first post in like 6 years lol...


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