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shelby9
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posted 20 November 2002 03:04 PM      Profile for shelby9     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
HEEEE!!! YEEEES!! Random House seeks new Godfather author, and, AND we may get another installment on film of the Corleone family saga.

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,10713,00.html

LOVE the Godfather films, just hope they choose someone with the talent to carry out the tale in quality fashion.


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Michael Hardner
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posted 20 November 2002 03:12 PM      Profile for Michael Hardner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Uhhh....

Did you see Godfather 3 by any chance ?

The story was turned into a franchise by way of this awful film.

Did you like the "Gone With The Wind" sequel too ? How about Star Wars 5 ?


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WingNut
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posted 20 November 2002 03:13 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Star Wars 5? Is that the prequel sequel?
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Mandos
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posted 20 November 2002 03:18 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You mean Star Wars 2, silly.

And I didn't really mind godfather 3 so much.


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Alix
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posted 20 November 2002 03:18 PM      Profile for Alix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Uh, yes, George Lucas always intended to do three films as the prequel to the Star Wars trilogy. Unfortunately they haven't lived up to many people's expectations. Myself, I enjoyed them, but I was never expecting them to be high art.

As for the idea of doing a further addition to the Godfather - BLECH! People trying to take over other author's fictons rarely turns out well. (I mean fictons, not fiction. It's Heinlein's term for the universe in which a writer sets her/his stories)


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posted 20 November 2002 03:22 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I dunno, the original "Godfather" (the novel) was pulp -- as Mario Puzo himself admitted. He'd started out with literary aspirations, but after turning out the Godfather -- to make ends meet -- couldn't get taken seriously again as a writer.

Thanks variously to the script, the cast, and the cinematograhy, the first two movies are great, as films, but on the subject of the Mafia, Puzo and Coppola sold us a bullshit mythology. In the third picture, the cracks showed through in spectacular fashion. The whole thing fell apart, in fact. I found it distinctly embarrassing to watch.

And after "Goodfellas" and "The Sopranos," I figure any new Godfather films will suffer the fate of Puzo himself -- it'll be impossible to take them seriously. Thanks to these newer versions -- recall, the pathetic suburban mobsters of "the Sopranos" are taken practically verbatim from late-1990s FBI wiretaps -- our view of the Mafia has moved on. All that sonorous, would-be operatic "new Roman" stuff will seem as creaky and dated as a Cadillac -- a 1970s or 80s Cadillac, utterly without style or dignity, except maybe ironic style.


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Mandos
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posted 20 November 2002 03:38 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like opera, though, including the traditional kind. I enjoyed the opera-and-murder scene of Godfather 3. SF is the only place left for opera in the cinema and on TV, I guess. The Sopranos may be gritty and realistic, but that doesn't cut it for me.
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shelby9
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posted 20 November 2002 04:23 PM      Profile for shelby9     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've seen all the Godfather movies. It was Godfather II which wasn't the best of the 3.

Love it or hate it, The Godfather movies are still a perennial favorite at the movie rental stores. They also drew huge crowds to the theatres. It's fiction - and as such it's a great story.

I haven't seen all the Star Wars installments, not a huge Star War fan, but they were enjoyable.


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Black Dog
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posted 20 November 2002 04:25 PM      Profile for Black Dog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Godfather I= great
Godfather II= very good
Haven't seen part the third.
As for Star Wars, Episode One was one of the worst movies I've ever seen, and I've seen enough of Episode 2 to rank it close behind.

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Briguy
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posted 20 November 2002 04:26 PM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tidbit alert!

Mario Puzo penned the "novelization" of Superman (the first Christopher Reeves Superman). Never confuse him for a serious artist.


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Arch Stanton
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posted 20 November 2002 04:42 PM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"The Godfather" is one of the best movies ever made, if ya ask me. After having seen the movie a few times I read the novel. This is one instance where the movie is FAR better than the book.

The second Godfather picture is good, but some of the subterfuge and character motivations are difficult to understand, even after multiple viewings. I liked the DeNiro segments better than the "contemporary" parts.

The third movie was dreck.


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Michael Hardner
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posted 20 November 2002 04:52 PM      Profile for Michael Hardner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hear, hear Arch.

The Godfather series graphs the decline of American cinema from popular art to cultural fast food.

Watching American movies may make you think that there's nothing left to be said any more, but it's not true. Hollywood represents film like Burger King represents food.


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'lance
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posted 20 November 2002 04:54 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Mario Puzo penned the "novelization" of Superman (the first Christopher Reeves Superman). Never confuse him for a serious artist.

Agreed -- but in his youth, that was exactly what he wanted to be.

From the New Yorker "Talk of the Town" item about "The Godfather Returns," Oct. 28:

quote:
... it may be worth noting that what Puzo was when he wrote "The Godfather" was disillusioned and broke. His first two novels, "The Dark Arena" and "The Fortunate Pilgrim," had been well reviewed but were not widely read, so, at the age of forty-five, to turn a buck, he decided to crank out his Mob story. There are many ways to look at a life, but one way to look at Puzo's is that he sold out and then spent the rest of his days half regretting it. However rich he got, he was never again taken seriously as a writer writer, which is what he had initially set out to be. "I wished like hell I'd written it better," he said of "The Godfather." I wrote below my gifts in that book."

Now, if some other writer wants to take over the franchise, I can't see any problems with that. But if the new one is filmed, I'll no more go to watch it than I bothered with the latest Star Wars movies.


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TommyPaineatWork
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posted 21 November 2002 02:37 AM      Profile for TommyPaineatWork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Of course, with today's technology anything is possible, like "Abbot and Costello Meet the Godfather."

Before you all rush off, I've already sold the screen play.


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Michael Hardner
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posted 21 November 2002 11:57 AM      Profile for Michael Hardner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry, Tom, but they're going to buy my "Love Story meets Jackass" first.
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posted 21 November 2002 03:48 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A dissenting voice on Godfather III. It doesn't come up to the level of the fist two, that's true. But I think it is a decent film, with a good plot and beautiful scenery. Some great lines too: "Everytime I think I'm out, they pull me back in." "Our true enemy has yet to reveal his face." However, Coppola's daughter's performance was truly awful.

I agree that there is no need for anymore sequels. The Sopranos is the most complete look at the mob we're likely to get.


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