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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 25 September 2001 07:15 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A special episode of The West Wing is being shot, to reflect Sept. 11.
http://www.ctvnews.com/content/sitesections/7/811388.asp

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'lance
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posted 25 September 2001 07:41 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What caught my eye was this:

quote:
However, The Agency can still be seen Thursday, starting this week with an episode on the CIA trying to thwart a
plot to assassinate Cuban leader Fidel Castro.

Fair enough, as long as they present the record in a balanced way.

For example, in future episodes the CIA might nobly refuse President Nixon's orders to interfere with an FBI investigation, restore to power a democratically elected, but deposed president in Chile, resist the temptation to secretly subsidize magazines and publishing houses, and supervise free and fair elections in Iran.


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 02 October 2001 11:29 AM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anybody who watches The West Wing will recall that the central story-line at the moment has been Bartlet's decision to run for a second term or not, especially considering that he lied about his medical condition during his first campaign for President.

Now, the producers of the show have put together a new episode which deals with a terrorist attack. Fair enough. However, this episode will not touch on the main, central story-line at all. The "real" season premiere, which is next week, will continue the re-election story-line.

I know it's just a tv show, but this bugs me for some reason.

How could a terrorist attack NOT have any influence on a President's decision to run for a second term? Think about it. The President is facing investigation for lying about his medical condition, he has to decide if he wants to run for a second term, and suddenly this attack happens which, if handled correctly, could boost his popularity into the stratosphere. Are we to believe that NOBODY in the White House would bring up the subject, even in private?

And then, next week, will the show return to normal as if nothing had happened? Is this fictional terrorist attack which runs tomorrow night outside of the show's regular continuity? That would be very lame, like when Bobby came back to life on Dallas. "Oh, it was just a dream sequence."


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'lance
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posted 02 October 2001 12:26 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's early days to say this, but I have the uneasy feeling this show jumped the shark last season. The last couple of episodes, particularly, went in for shameless tear-jerking and clunky symbolism.

And thinking back, I'm not altogether wild about some of the politics. Much of it appealed to common- or garden-variety US patriotism -- "the world's policeman," et al. I was hoping, at least, for some new-style, or rather very old-style patriotism, a la Mark Twain.


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 04 October 2001 10:28 AM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So, did anybody watch it last night?

It wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be, but there were a few points that really stuck in my craw:

1) They mentioned that terrorists had entered the US along the Vermont/Ontario border. In reality, Vermont borders with Quebec.

2) They said that the US Revolutionary War was not an example of American terrorism because the Declaration of Independence is a very polite declaration of war, and the war was conducted very honorably. I bet those who were tarred and feathered for being loyal to the crown might disagree. Torturing and killing folks for harbouring unpopular opinions is not my idea of an honorable war.

3) Marin Sheen says that he didn't consider suicide bombers to be noble because he prefers heroes to martyrs. But what's heroic about firing cruise missles from hundreds of miles away of a target?

Overall, I guess I dug the episode. Different characters disagreed with each other on several points, which is nice to see. Still, it was overly preachy in a lot of areas. Aaron Sorkin's got issues, methinks.

Here's a negative review of the episode: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cdh/20011004/lo/_west_wing_disguised_propaganda_1.html

[ October 04, 2001: Message edited by: Kneel before MediaBoy ]


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posted 04 October 2001 04:06 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think it was horrible. I could barely watch it. Under the politically correct liberal clichés, there was an intent to decontextualize the whole Sept 11 incident from history. And I find that either irresponsible or scurrilous (but probably both).
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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 04 October 2001 04:49 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The second episode of Enterprise, which ran in the same time slot, was excellent.
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'lance
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posted 04 October 2001 05:04 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I concur on Enterprise. I'm very impressed with it so far, and I'm not the biggest Star Trek fan going. Easily the best series, I think.

West Wing runs after Enterprise here, so I caught a few minutes of that. I got irritated and went off to do something else.


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