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GT Snowracer
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posted 27 April 2006 01:17 PM      Profile for GT Snowracer        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
THE BEST 9/11 MOVIE EVER... a must see
I have recently been sent this movie, and after watching it serveral times, I am terrified.

Have a look... its free to download
Loose Change 2nd Edition

I have tried to follow up on some of the claims, and found a few reasonable links, but you have to give the producer some credit for the in depth research. Hands down the images are perminently burned into my brain.

QUESTION: Why do you think NO ONE is really talking about this movie? (Given all the hype around Michael Moore.)

Let me know what you think.... later GT


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Stargazer
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posted 27 April 2006 01:38 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've seen it. Great film. It asks so many questions. Leaves a lot open for discussion but I can't see any questioning coming from the US elite. That's sad because this movie makes a lot of points that absolutely need to be addressed.
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GT Snowracer
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posted 27 April 2006 02:19 PM      Profile for GT Snowracer        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Agreed.
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The yodelling brakeman
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posted 27 April 2006 02:47 PM      Profile for The yodelling brakeman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll have to check it out. The 9/11 coverup makes the JFK assassination look like child's play.
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Fear-ah
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posted 27 April 2006 03:54 PM      Profile for Fear-ah        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by GT Snowracer:
THE BEST 9/11 MOVIE EVER... a must see
I have recently been sent this movie, and after watching it serveral times, I am terrified.

Have a look... its free to download
Loose Change 2nd Edition


Thanks for the heads up....
I have seen this listed, but there are honestly a lot of documentaries out there and so I passed on it...
BUT I did do some looking around and found many many comments that this one is the real deal and
MOST importantly, a hoot to watch for those interested in this stuff.

For those that might want to watch the movie on their own time, better rez., portability, etc without the hassle of Google Video player...

You could go
here for another version...um...with some extra footage and lots of 'seeds'.


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GT Snowracer
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posted 27 April 2006 05:37 PM      Profile for GT Snowracer        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the link Fear-ah
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SavageInTheCity
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posted 27 April 2006 07:10 PM      Profile for SavageInTheCity     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think there is a conspiracy here....

But...Popular Mechanics attempts to debunk some of the claims made:

Popular Mechanics - 9/11


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GT Snowracer
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posted 27 April 2006 09:30 PM      Profile for GT Snowracer        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Savage..... wicked link and thnaks.... I'm tearing into it right now.

While I think this movie is compelling, since there are so many claims my general belief of each one is different, but I do believe the tapes of the FD and the reports of bombs.... I seen them.

Cheerz
GT


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posted 30 April 2006 03:39 PM      Profile for what'sleft?     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've seen this film several times and it does make some great points. I especially like how it uses actual mainstream news footage to reinforce its claims.

quote:
But...Popular Mechanics attempts to debunk some of the claims made:

Popular Mechanics - 9/11


They shone light on some of the more ridiculous and wrong conspiracy theories that I believe were created to be debunked and take validity away from the real theories.


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GT Snowracer
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posted 30 April 2006 09:10 PM      Profile for GT Snowracer        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
what'sleft?'s on the money.

I think that some of the more lame theories are fine, but when is comes to some of the more compelling points like "molten metal", "WTC 7" and the sound and images of bombs leading to nice and neat little piles of building.

I think those area's don't add up.
GT


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ceti
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posted 05 May 2006 12:10 AM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just saw this after download.

It's quite well done with a lot of technical detail.

For me the Pentagon explosion was the most effective, as well as the supposed detonations that brought done the towers instead. I remember that day though there was a lot of conflicting information coming out, that have since been buried by the official narrative. Seeing them again, really refreshed my memory about what actually happened that morning.

As for United 93... I don't know. All those passengers would have to be disappeared no, and the whole staging of the valiant passengers concocted? That's too far fetched.


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posted 05 May 2006 10:43 AM      Profile for Critical Mass2        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Again, as was expressed by many including myself in another thread on 911 theories, many of these films that criticize the so-called "official story" strecth too much, they try to explain too many details.

The Popular Mechanics articles, and other sources have countered much of the supposed conspiracy theories.

I think everyone agrees there are many unanswered questions but one just can't make things up to fit a preordained political conclusion.

Engineers, flight specialists, radar specialists, fire experts, metallurgists, specialists in inter-bureaucracy rivalries between the CIA, the FBI, NSA and other agencies, etc., basically people with some real expertise, have come up with valid explanations that cover many of the questions raised. A large part of the conspiracy was in the minds of people who make these movies.

There could be an attempted cover-up of government incompetence after the fact. But that cover-up has been revealed - we know now of miscommunications between US agencies, lack of airport security prior to the fall of 2001, incompatible phone systems between the NY fire department and police, idiocy of the Bush administration anti-terrorism policy in 2000-01 which did not listen to warnings because "terrorism was Clinton's issue" etc.

One doesn't need a government conpspiracy to explain most of the facts.

The theories stretch way too much.


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Fear-ah
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posted 05 May 2006 10:54 AM      Profile for Fear-ah        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by what'sleft?:
I've seen this film several times and it does make some great points. I especially like how it uses actual mainstream news footage to reinforce its claims.

That's the best part-- the succession of eyewitness accounts all collaborating 'explosions' or other planes in the air.

It's nice to have a look again at all the WTC tower footage, including the strange case of WTC7...which in itself raises most of the contradictions to the official story.

quote:

They shone light on some of the more ridiculous and wrong conspiracy theories that I believe were created to be debunked and take validity away from the real theories.

Sorta...they could easily drop Dewdney's cell phone nonsense and make the other better point that the FBI subsequently confirmed that the calls to the MCI call center were 'fake' as well as a few others.

Flying a cessna over London, Ontario is not really going to be a credible test, especially when you can meet tons of people who have MADE cell phone calls on airplanes during that time and continue to so on planes all the time.

It would have been nice to add the stuff about Gen. Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI, meeting and greeting with Porter Goss and Graham on that morning...

BUT the good part is that they didn't bother going over the same ground as Moore as in overanalysizing Bush's morning or skewing the blame to the 'brown' people to save Americans' perception of their country and elites.


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