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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 10 August 2007 09:21 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey mods, feel free to move this if this belongs somewhere else.

Well. . . .

Been away for awhile. Been busy setting up my own new/used book storehere in my old hometown.

After a few months of observation, I have come across one thing I've noticed that really fries my back bacon and I thought it would be worth posting here.

My store tends to cater to a female audience. Women buy about 80 percent of my books and I think that generally mirrors national trends. Because of that I try to stock a good deal of literature and non-fiction for that audience. I recently almost had someone hug me for having a bell hooks book she was looking for (now I have no bell hooks which worries me - anyone selling any?).

Anyway, there have been more than a few times when women felt compelled to leave my store before they were done browsing by their husbands or boyfriends who were visibly annoyed by having to spend time in a bookstore while their SO looks around.

Now, I have a coffee lounge in my store (free coffee) with a very nice place to sit. I stock the Plain Dealer and the local community papers. And I have many genres of books for all persuasions. I pipe in light jazz most of the time through this computer and in general, try to make the place a great way to kill some time.

I can't tell you how many times some of my female customers have come up to the counter and made some kind of comment (often whispered) such as "I guess I'd better get going before (he) gets more annoyed/restless/bored"

One guy parked at the bakery next door even HONKED his car horn for his wife in the store and she RAN out immediately!

Now not all guys are like this of course. The best browsers are committed book couples and they are a pleasure to serve. But it kills me to see people interested in books being jerked around by their jerky SOs.

I want to yell at these guys but that would be bad business etiquette, of course and just plain dumb unless I'm in the mood for a fight. But it burns me a lot more than losing a possible sale. To me its akin to a kind of intellectual assault.

Has anyone else ever noticed this phenomenon? Its never the other way around, at least from what I've noticed. Maybe its just my part of Ohio.


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posted 10 August 2007 09:28 AM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dear AE... what a pleasure it is to see your name here again! And I'm so proud of you, both for your new book store and for this post. I've missed your column but I guess you're pretty busy!

Several years ago, I wrote a column on feminist issues for a newspaper here in Halifax. I can't tell you how many times women encountered me in the supermarket/Canadian Tire/on the sidewalk and looked around carefuly before saying to me in a low voice, "I read your column all the time and I love it -- I can't talk to you because my husband is around and I can't let him hear me say that."

Your bookstore experience reminded me of those short disturbing conversations.


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posted 10 August 2007 09:31 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Welcome back, AE.

You could be identifying a general male antipathy to shopping, of course, that isn't restricted to bookstores. But perhaps all those female customers are interested in more than books. Why don't you try, if you're a straight, single male, combining your business with your social life? Maybe some of your customers are impressed with a progressive guy and are looking to get out of a dead end relationship? You could be looking at the reason for all these female customers in the mirror every time you get up in the morning. Heheh.

Edited to add: I just saw Sharon's contribution and it rings pretty true. I would just add that if you're a good listener then lots of people enjoy your company no matter where you are and what the situation is.

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posted 10 August 2007 09:38 AM      Profile for Geneva     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I recall a feature in the Washington Post a few years ago that noted an almost geological divide in bookstores between the Non-Fiction section (Male customers) and Fiction (Women)

in part this may be due to the decline of the novel, and the fact there are fewer great storytellers, as men never hesitated to read Hemingway, Steinbeck, Dickens, Melville or Twain before

but it is true that men prefer factual discourse (as noted by Deborah Tannen), close to non-fiction; but maybe modern writing just does not grab them ... who knows?

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posted 10 August 2007 03:35 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Geneva:
I recall a feature in the Washington Post a few years ago that noted an almost geological divide in bookstores between the Non-Fiction section (Male customers) and Fiction (Women)

That's odd! I check out fiction, but I think most of the time I'm looking for non-fiction.

Just trying to think of my recent library borrowing - most of it has been non-fiction, both in movies and books.

I would never have thought that. Many of my exes were big into science fiction and fantasy, whereas, with some exceptions, those genres generally leave me cold. Just looking at my two bookshelves, which are divided into fiction and non-fiction - I think I have more non-fiction, but I have lots of fiction too. I like documentaries as much as, if not more than, fictional movies.


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posted 10 August 2007 03:35 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, and yes, welcome back, AE! It's so good to see you here - and it's wonderful to hear that you've got your bookstore up and running! The fulfilment of a dream, huh? Congrats.
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posted 10 August 2007 04:59 PM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wahoo! AE is back!

And huge congrats on the bookstore venture. That's an amazing undertaking you're doing. You know how I love and support independent bookstores, so please let me know if there's any help/advice I can offer. I was 9 years in the biz, 7 as a manager.

It sounds like your store is one I'd love to visit, if I'm ever around those parts.

As for the fiction/non-fiction divide, I don't know. I feel like university almost ruined reading for pleasure for me. For many years after finishing my grad degree I could not get into fiction. Then I started to read Canadian fiction and man is it grim! Like really frikkin grim! Give me some anti-racist theory any day. Seriously. And you ain't getting your mitts on any of my bell hooks collection! Also, my SO has tons and tons of SF paperbacks, so I'm not sure what this Men are from Non-Fiction, Women are from Fiction is about.


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I don't spend any time in bookstores anymore. Online Amazon account is too easy. I used to spend hours in used book stores and my treasure is still the Oxford dictionary,held together with stove bolts.Also used music stores. I'm always searching for classical,jazz and opera by under-recognised or passe performers.

I don't know if any of my acquaintances can read no less actually make the effort. It does appear that seeking knowledge through reading takes more effort than absorbing someone else's perspective from the TV.

I don't believe that a love of books is gender specific,just that in a non-urban environment,the societal norms do not encourage cerebral pursuits.


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posted 11 August 2007 05:05 AM      Profile for marzo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like both fiction and non-fiction, depending on the author's writing style and content. (I'm male)
I really enjoyed the Earth's Children series by Jean M. Auel. It is a story in 5 books that takes place 30,000 years ago and follows the adventures of Ayla and her lover Jondalar as they walk from the shores of the Black Sea to the south of France. The end of the 5th book has a happy ending.
Another series of stories that I like, although I have only read a few, are the Detective Murdoch Mysteries by Maureen Jennings. These stories take place in Toronto in the 1890s and follow the life and work of a fictional detective William Murdoch as he investigates murders in late Victorian Toronto. There were a few TV movies based on these stories.

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posted 11 August 2007 06:58 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here are some pictures:

Whoops I tried tiny pic but they're too big!

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posted 11 August 2007 07:28 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Give us a link to where they're posted and we'll browse them ourselves.
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posted 11 August 2007 08:06 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK, whew, got a little busy here in the store (good!)

Here are the links to where they are on tinypic:

Coffee lounge display of Harry Potter

Me in the fireplace room

Me in front of the store on opening day

My display in the bay window room

Geez, its like having to relearn how to do this all over again!

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posted 11 August 2007 08:18 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Sharon:
Dear AE... what a pleasure it is to see your name here again! And I'm so proud of you, both for your new book store and for this post. I've missed your column but I guess you're pretty busy!

Several years ago, I wrote a column on feminist issues for a newspaper here in Halifax. I can't tell you how many times women encountered me in the supermarket/Canadian Tire/on the sidewalk and looked around carefuly before saying to me in a low voice, "I read your column all the time and I love it -- I can't talk to you because my husband is around and I can't let him hear me say that."

Your bookstore experience reminded me of those short disturbing conversations.


Thanks Sharon. I have a new column in the pipeline.

By the way, yesterday I had a woman and her friend, an English professor from Cal-State Fullerton, both in their early 30s and all they were interested in were antiquarian books. More women by classic literature and antiquarian books than men do. Its really a stereotype buster for the most part. Many of them make faces at my (large) display of romance paperbacks! That's cool because the whole point of the store was to have a little something for every taste and a major emphasis on under-served genres here locally - by that I mean, antiquarian (esp. kids), new age/wicca/paranormal/sci fi and self-help. The back realm is my back room with the sci-fi, new age, astrology, paranormal, wicca, and poetry, simple living, homeopathy, herbs, etc. I have a great selection of old pb sci-fi and antiquarian poetry. And it sells.

Sorry, here I am babbling on. .


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posted 11 August 2007 09:36 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
AE that's awesome! And of COURSE you would have maple leaf wallpaper!
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AE I love love love your book store!! Finally had your dream come true.

Just to answer your question above - I'm one of those women constantly shoved out of bookstores by my SO. I look around and they are clearly bored. Then I start feeling guilty and ask them if they are bored. Of course they say no but they clearly are. I try not to go to bookstores with men anymore. It's too frustrating. In fact, this just happened yesterday - yet again.

I have found though that when it comes to types of books the guys will go for the sci-fi, science stuff and I tend to lean towards literature and cultural studies. This has pretty much been the case with most men I have dated.


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posted 11 August 2007 11:35 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
AE that's awesome! And of COURSE you would have maple leaf wallpaper!

Aw, you noticed!! Yes, I rather like it too. Chardon is known for its maple trees and maple syrup production as well.

This site has some information and a nice shot of our New England style town square:

Moving to Chardon

And the Wikipedia entry:

Chardon on wikipedia

And we may have one of the few official city governmental sites with annual snowfall statistics on it. And remember those are inches not centimeters.

My myspace site with more pix is:
http://www.myspace.com/granfalloonbooks

And Stargazer - hi! hope all is well with you. Check your MySpace site - I sent a friend request.


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re Michelle's query above:
I googled various formulations of "men/women fiction/non-fiction bookstores choices" and so on, and never came up with the Washington Post piece I recall about men not reading non-fiction any more;

best I could do was this brief from a book trade publication with a dead newspaper link:
http://news.shelf-awareness.com/nview.jsp?appid=411&j=213301

Have men abandoned fiction? The Kansas City Star spoke with authors Jennifer Weiner and Laura Moriarty about their success with an almost exclusively female readership.

"I’ve had to get over it," Moriarty said. "I think I resisted being typed as a 'woman author.' But if I write something and thousands and thousands of people read it, who cares?"

Weiner added that "what I’m seeing at fiction readings, and not just mine, are audiences made up almost entirely of women. I’m really grateful from a purely personal point of view. But it is strange to think men have abandoned fiction and women have ceded the rest of the culture."

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Oh, I see! Well, that makes more sense, I guess. Somehow I didn't think that there were no women in the non-fiction section. This seems to be talking about how men are gravitating away from fiction, not that women read fiction and men read non-fiction.

Still, I don't know. Usually when I pass the sci-fi sections, they're filled with mostly guys.

Although, my best friend, a guy, surprised me when he told me that he never reads fiction, just non-fiction. I think he's the only person I've met who doesn't read both.

AE, maybe you need to solve your problem by having something for non-reading guys to do in your store. Kind of like how some clothing stores have a seating area with magazines for guys or kids who are dragged clothes shopping.

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Then I started to read Canadian fiction and man is it grim! Like really frikkin grim!

I love you, BCG. Maybe if Canadian fiction writers started writing with an broader audience in mind instead of writing for book reviewers and the small and inbred world of Can lit, maybe they'd be more fun to read.

Rebecca West and I always have a book on the go. I oscillate between fiction and non-fiction. In my fiction, I prefer British authors. There seems to be an inherent understanding of the lyricism of words that few American authors either appreciate or understand. There are exceptions, of course.

Neither of us rush each other out of the book stores.

Of course, shopping with someone who is into something one is not is trying at the best of times. The best solution is to avoid those situations in the first place. I have no sympathy for the rushed shopper or the bored spouse. Couples don't have to do everything together, and it's probably best that they don't.

Rebecca was sans book the other week, so I dug out "Flashman" to see if she might like the series. Unfortunately, by the time I dug it out she had gotten herself another book. So I started re-reading it.

Jolly good fun, eh what?

Next on tap for me will be a non-fiction book by Dawkins.

Nice book store, Americain Egalitaire. I hope it goes well.

As a customer of used book stores, I appreciate well organized books. I don't mind browsing, and looking around, but I don't want to make a career out of it. And unorganized book stores are a pain in the ass if you are looking for something specific. I won't waste my time.


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posted 12 August 2007 06:32 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's true, about the world of CanLit. Does anyone ever write silly, fun, "chick-lit" novels in Canada? Every once in a while I like to read those. I just read a couple of books by Karyn Bosnak, the woman who did the "Save Karyn" web site when she got $20,000 into debt on her credit cards. The first one was an autobiographical account of her whole experience with the Save Karyn site. The second was a novel. Both breezy, silly, funny, and just a nice, light summer read.

Are Canadians allowed to write books like that? Would they get published if they did?


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On the men/women bookstore problem, I'd have to agree with N. Beltov's point regarding shopping in general. It's not confined to bookstores alone. One only has to look around in shopping venues at the fixed and vacant faces of men who are obligated to tag along with their companions to gauge the extent of the problem. I see these unfortunate souls often in shopping establishments through my own despondency. Sometimes we're able to nod in each other's direction as some sort of acknowledgement of what the other is going through. As a smoker who is trying to quit, I plan my cigarette intake around an estimate of how long the next shopping trip will take. I take only enough based on my best guess. I never take enough. In the end, only those that truly can't take it anymore cry out for help by honking horns or uttering the 'lets go' plea of desperation. Even the enticement of a planned purchase of my own is short-lived relief. After that quick deed is done, I realize that I've been had, because now I'm ill-positioned to complain about what transpires for the next two or three hours. So I wander aimlessly, several paces behind the main procession, closely clutching the bribe, be it a tool, video game, etc, watching other forlorn men doing the same.
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Michelle,


Maybe they do, but they aren't as talked about?

I have been searching out source material for an idea for a novel I have had for several years. I think I have identified enough sources that I should start actually doing some frikken writting. I do intend the book to make certain observations or statements, but above all, I want it to be a well paced entertaining page turner.

At this rate, maybe twenty years from now we will find out if there is interest in publishing such a Canadian book.

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quote:
Has anyone else ever noticed this phenomenon? Its never the other way around, at least from what I've noticed. Maybe its just my part of Ohio.


For me its the other way around AE My wife regularly drags me out and gets angry if I even look at a bookstore while we are driving


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Flashman Rocks

So does Shelfari.com. Ive got some 480 books of my collection on it so far


Hmmm AE, what are your hours on Sat? I'll be close by and might drop by


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[QUOTE=Américain Égalitaire] I pipe in light jazz most of the time through this computer and in general, try to make the place a great way to kill some time.[/QUOTE]

There's your culprit. That stuff drives me up the wall.

I have some sympathy for the guys in your store though, because I imagine that's how my SO feels when I drag her out to go record shopping with me.

[QUOTE=bigcitygal] Then I started to read Canadian fiction and man is it grim! Like really frikkin grim! [/QUOTE]

Funny you should mention that. I don't read a lot of Canadian fiction, but I recently started reading Ann-Marie Macdonald's "The Way the Crow Flies". It's an excellent read so far, but the subject matter is pretty grim.


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quote:
Originally posted by Bacchus:
Flashman Rocks

So does Shelfari.com. Ive got some 480 books of my collection on it so far


Hmmm AE, what are your hours on Sat? I'll be close by and might drop by


Open M-F from 10 to 7; Sat from 10 to 6. Hope you didn't mean yesterday!

As for the light jazz, its a fallback. I tend to switch off with the Sinatra channel, the classic Jazz (older), 70s and 80 music, and occasionally blues. If something's up, I'll pipe in CNN and in the pm's I pop in on Michelangelo Signorile's show on occasion to see what he's talking about.


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No, this coming saturday. I'll be in Erie PA before ruinning back that night to see Bill Engval live woohoo!
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quote:
Originally posted by Bacchus:
No, this coming saturday. I'll be in Erie PA before ruinning back that night to see Bill Engval live woohoo!

OK, then, do you have his new book "Just A Guy?"

$24.95 in Canada, $19.95 in the states, for you my good man, $13.95 plus tax. I'll hold it for you if you'd like.

Let me know when you might drop by or need detailed directions! Erie is a little less than 2 hours from me.

Cool, I love visitors


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Yes please hold it for me. And mapquest is my friend We will be on 90 while in Erie.
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Oh that reminds me. Do you need anything from us? All dressed chips, HP sauce etc?
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quote:
Originally posted by Bacchus:
Oh that reminds me. Do you need anything from us? All dressed chips, HP sauce etc?

Oh wow. All dressed chips would be awesome and some Aero bars and Coffee Crunch bars too. And, if you can get it, some Kokanee (if you can bring it across the border ok) or if that's not available some Keith's. That should take care of the Engvall book and perhaps a few others if you'd like, otherwise just tally it up(Hey I'd always trade books for good Canadian beer and munchies!). Got plenty of HP left over from the last trip. I've also cut down on the red meat eating since then.

Looking forward to seeing you again!


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Consider it done! But do you mean coffee crisp or a crunchie?
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quote:
Originally posted by Bacchus:
Consider it done! But do you mean coffee crisp or a crunchie?

The coffee crisp candy bar. Its crunchy but I didn't know there were two different things. Hmmm. Must google.

By the way, note to all: Michelle said it was ok to offer my services as a babble book connection. I know how Canadians get ripped off on new book prices so maybe I could help out by getting books here for lower prices. I can also do used book searches for people as well. Just send me a PM and I'll see what I can do. It would be great if somehow group orders could be made to save on postage.


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posted 15 August 2007 07:27 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll get you a crunchie to 'test' as well as a box each of Aero and Coffee Crisp. And all dressed chips and the beer if I can swing it
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posted 15 August 2007 08:26 PM      Profile for Summer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Re: Canadian chick-lit - Rebecca Eckler (ugh) and Leah MacLaren (double ugh) both have a book or two out... According to the Globe and Mail, they're friggin fantastic

Re: the OP. I read this fascinating (to me) book called "The Science of Shopping" or something along those lines. It had at least one chapter on gender differences. In terms of browsing time, one women spends like 8 minutes in a store; 2 women shopping together spend 12 minutes and a man and women 5 minutes...men are clearly bad for the economy! The author suggested there should be a hardware store near every women's clothing store and everyone would spend more money and be happier, or something anyway... So maybe it is just gender differences in shopping combined with the fact that we don't like to torture/piss off our SO's by making them hang out in a store they don't like...I know Mr. Summer doesn't like to go to bookstores with me cuz he says I lose track of time and never want to leave On the other hand, my father loves book stores (used especially) and can happily spend all day browsing while I'm good for about 45 minutes, and my mom only lasts about 20.


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posted 16 August 2007 11:03 AM      Profile for Farmpunk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I read both fiction and non, and usually go from one to the other. Right now it seems like there's more good recent non-fiction titles availible. And I'm a serious browser.

The most celebrated CanLit, as has been mentioned already in this thread, is a true downer, and even as a CanLit fan I have trouble reading most of the titles due to sheer boring stories. Nothing happens. Tommy has it nailed when he says it's due to the clique-ish small nature of what's considered publishable CanLit. Try reading some of the lit journals put out by various universities across the country and you'll quickly understand why fiction is lagging behind. Linked to this is the idea that men have little interest in fiction, which I'm not so sure about. But, having said that, there is very little fiction in CanLit for a mainstream literary male audience. And the good titles are hard to find, usually smaller press stuff, and tend to be on the experimental side. Mark Jarman's Salvage King, Yah, being a fair example of good male-centric CanLit that has never seen good sales. William Gibson has wrote some really good books that cater more to men. And I'm fairly happy with Brad Smith's Southern Ontario "Country Noir" books, which I suspect will get better reviews from men than women. I'm not a big fan of Andrew Pyper, but he's wrote a couple okay books.

Regardless, congrats on the bookstore.


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