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clockwork
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posted 02 July 2003 12:15 AM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Our big, easygoing neighbor to the north has its problems—too cold, a weak dollar, a reputation for paralyzing dullness—but its people are reasonably free, and they seem, on the whole, quite nice.

Northern light

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Tommy_Paine
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posted 02 July 2003 08:59 AM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, Clockwork, that was a good read.
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badlydrawngirl
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posted 03 July 2003 12:00 PM      Profile for badlydrawngirl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
yeah, i liked that clockwork (soalways want to add the 'orange' after your username ). it seems there's a spate of U.S. articles about canada lately, almost like they have no idea what's going on up here. to be honest, i don't either sometimes, but maybe it's just me taking things for granted...
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Meowful
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posted 03 July 2003 12:19 PM      Profile for Meowful   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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By sending their soldiers to serve side by side with ours in Afghanistan, they supported us in our hour of need—the act of a true friend. By declining to participate in our Iraq adventure, they let us know that they sincerely thought we were making a mistake—also the act of a true friend.

This quote is for the FDers on this board!


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jeff house
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posted 03 July 2003 03:04 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, thanks for the link, that was a good piece.

Incidentally, the three dissenters in the US Supreme Court case discussed there (Scalia, Thomas and Rehnquist) took an extremely narrow view of the right to equal protection of the laws.

They continued to claim that gays are not discriminated against by a law which makes it a crime to engage in anal intercourse. The purpose of the equal protection laws was to protect blacks, not any minority such as gays, they claim.

That position would be more understandable were it not for the fact that these same three (who I call the "Vile Bunch") recently took the position that "equal protection of the laws" is an extremely BROAD concept.

The earlier case was Bush v. Gore, the case by which the vile bunch stole the election. They have now reverted to their earlier jurisprudence on this question, pre Bush v. Gore. That decision
stands even more alone than it did previously.


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clockwork
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posted 03 July 2003 11:24 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How did Bush v Gore come to interpret rights broadly?

And, er…is the adding the term "orange" after "clockwork" a good thing, a bad thing, or just a thing?


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DrConway
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posted 03 July 2003 11:51 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You've heard of the Kubrickian A Clockwork Orange, yes?
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redshift
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posted 04 July 2003 12:24 AM      Profile for redshift     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
singin' in the rain (boot),
singin' in the rain (kick). i used to like gene kelly.
its stuck in my head, again

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josh
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posted 04 July 2003 08:37 AM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Clockwork, I think what Jeff House meant is that the conservatives were reluctant to use the equal protection clause except where it was necessary to assure that their candidate won.
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badlydrawngirl
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posted 04 July 2003 10:55 AM      Profile for badlydrawngirl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
it's just a thing, no offense intended.
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kuba walda
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posted 11 July 2003 04:45 PM      Profile for kuba walda        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In reference to the decriminilization of pot and gay marriages and the furor that's caused south of the border ..... in the minds of the slow and simple anyhow,

I heard someone say the other day -- can't remember who or where - it was an American thought - - and it was something like "since when did we (America) become an old wolrd European country?"

Advise: If you haven't seen the movie ........ don't add the orange.


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'lance
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posted 11 July 2003 05:03 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I heard someone say the other day -- can't remember who or where - it was an American thought - - and it was something like "since when did we (America) become an old wolrd European country?"

John Ralston Saul argues somewhere that Canada has a better claim (for what it's worth) to being a "New World" country than the US, which he describes as kind of an apotheosis of a lot of European ideas about the nation, the state, and like so forth. I can't reproduce the argument just now (paging skdadl to expand on this -- the Romantic corruption of Enlightenment ideas, essentialism, and like that -- I'm running out of vocabulary).

Anyway it's an intriguing idea that Canada is far more the result of improvising to meet local conditions, than of the promulgation of a set of Big Ideas, and then the attempt to shape external reality to fit them.


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