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Papal Bull
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posted 30 March 2006 02:55 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ha ha.
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posted 30 March 2006 03:00 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's cool PB, get your shots in while you can, for the mighty Blue and White will rise again. We still have the best fan loyalty (not to mention corporate season ticket holders..lol) in the NHL, rivalled only by Detroit, the Rangers, and I guess a few others.

When the Senators go down the shitter, they will have problems filling their seats. Montreal too, as demonstrated a few year ago.

Long live TML!!!


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posted 30 March 2006 03:00 PM      Profile for Norse of 60     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They still make more money than any other NHL club though.....even without making the playoffs.

Time for a post season firesale I'd say, get rid of everyone, JFJ, Quinn, Sundin, Belfor, Kaberle, McCabe...start from scratch.


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posted 30 March 2006 03:03 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Time for a post season firesale I'd say, get rid of everyone, JFJ, Quinn, Sundin, Belfor, Kaberle, McCabe...start from scratch.

Nah, not everyone. JFJ should be the first to go (although I expect most of his crappy decisions have come from higher up in MLSE). Quinn should go too. Sundin, maybe, but there's a case to be made that you can build a team around him. Belfour should go, hopefully he'll retire with some dignity rather than playin out his remaining existence somewhere very shitty. Kaberle should definately stay. He's and amazing defenceman, and they should build a new defence corps around him.


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posted 30 March 2006 03:05 PM      Profile for chester the prairie shark     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I love how you leaf fans always talk about profits and not winning
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JPG
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posted 30 March 2006 03:08 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The point is that Toronto fans will never abandon the team, thus always leaving the possibility of making a great team. The thing is, JFJ is the stupidest GM i've ever seen.
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posted 30 March 2006 03:17 PM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Make sure you keep Tucker and Domi, though. THOSE GUYS ARE FRANCHISE PLAYERS!

I hope you also keep getting great trade picks like Allison, Lindros and Doan. Big, lousy forwards past their prime. Hey...isn't Bertuzzi looking to get picked up soon?


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posted 30 March 2006 03:28 PM      Profile for Scout     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I always wonder why people seem to hate the Leafs more than they love their own teams. I'm mean how many threads have been started by Leafs fans to laugh at other teams fans? I know I didn't start a thread to laugh at Sens fans when we beat them, again, to laugh at them for buying into Krusty's delusion of hoisting the Cup that year. And that was actually funny.

And when we don't make the playoffs, the Sens still won't get to break the curse and beat us when it actually counts.

Laugh at us all you want, but Leafs fans are true blue fans. The franchise won't go under because of lack of fan support. We'll always out-shout most fans in their own buildings. We'll always love guys like Tucker, who never quit and elevate their own game through sheer will. We don't bandwagon. And when we do win again, it will be be the sweetest.


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posted 30 March 2006 03:33 PM      Profile for chester the prairie shark     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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THOSE GUYS ARE FRANCHISE PLAYERS!
can't. stop. laughing.

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posted 30 March 2006 03:34 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Make sure you keep Tucker and Domi, though. THOSE GUYS ARE FRANCHISE PLAYERS!

Tucker actually plays with heart, moreso than most players (although if you're a habs fan, Catchfire, I also like Koivu because he plays with alot of heart too). Plus he's all aroun, he can score, he can be a role player, he has charisma, and he can drop the gloves.

As for Allison, O'Neill, Lindros, and other stupid pick ups over the last few years, that is Quinn and JFJ. Neither are good GM's.

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I always wonder why people seem to hate the Leafs more than they love their own teams. I'm mean how many threads have been started by Leafs fans to laugh at other teams fans? I know I didn't start a thread to laugh at Sens fans when we beat them, again, to laugh at them for buying into Krusty's delusion of hoisting the Cup that year. And that was actually funny.
And when we don't make the playoffs, the Sens still won't get to break the curse and beat us when it actually counts.

Laugh at us all you want, but Leafs fans are true blue fans. The franchise won't go under because of lack of fan support. We'll always out-shout most fans in their own buildings. We'll always love guys like Tucker, who never quit and elevate their own game through sheer will. We don't bandwagon. And when we do win again, it will be be the sweetest.


Damn right.


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posted 30 March 2006 03:40 PM      Profile for chester the prairie shark     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I always wonder why people seem to hate the Leafs more than they love their own teams.


but scout, you answered your own question!

quote:

Laugh at us all you want, but Leafs fans are true blue fans. The franchise won't go under because of lack of fan support. We'll always out-shout most fans in their own buildings. We'll always love guys like Tucker, who never quit and elevate their own game through sheer will. We don't bandwagon. And when we do win again, it will be be the sweetest.

edited to quote the Weakerthans (re: leafs fans)

"Pray that she (they) remain(s) proud and strange and so hopelessly hopeful."
I have my fingers crossed that noone starts a thread about the 'riders

[ 30 March 2006: Message edited by: chester the prairie shark ]


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posted 30 March 2006 03:41 PM      Profile for Pogo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Scout:
I always wonder why people seem to hate the Leafs more than they love their own teams. I'm mean how many threads have been started by Leafs fans to laugh at other teams fans?

How many times are the Leafs not on Hockey Night in Canada? They impose themselves on the country as our annointed national team so when they fail so miserably no wonder the rest of us (how many times have the Canucks made HNiC?) like to have some fun.


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posted 30 March 2006 03:42 PM      Profile for chester the prairie shark     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
and furthermore, this love of Darcy Tucker just kills me. that guy is a forgetabble third liner of which there are dozens of and yet leafs fans are always "tucker, tucker, tucker"
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posted 30 March 2006 03:43 PM      Profile for Norse of 60     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by chester the prairie shark:
I love how you leaf fans always talk about profits and not winning

Pro sports is big business, don't kid yourself.

Could it be that MLSE is playing into the fact that Canadians root for the underdog ? Id oubt it, but they are doing something right, the Leafs brand is huge. Visit any opposing building in the NHL when the Leafs are visiting and you'll see throngs of fans. I can't see why ownership would change anything as long as they have a license to print money.

I'm a Leafs fan from way back and face facts, Domi (god love him) is a dinosaur....his style of game ended with thte lock out, he needs to walk away after this season.

Tucker, he does play with heart but christ he is the dive-king and takes the worst penalties ever.

Allison at $1 million was probably their best player until he broke his hand. I hope they tank the remainder of the season.


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posted 30 March 2006 04:04 PM      Profile for Tommy Shanks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I love how you leaf fans always talk about profits and not winning

Hey CthePS, we're doing our part for the Teachers Pension Fund. What other team does that.

I'll admit that, at the start of the year, I was as deluded as anyone. I thought the Leafs would make the playoffs and that guys like Allison, Lindros, and O'Neill would pan out. I have to say Allison is the sorriest 60 point guy I've ever seen and that, yes indeed, a firesale of everyone but the young guys, Sundin, Tucker, and Kaberle should be the GM's (not JFJ, please God) first responsibility.

Domi, Berg, Belfour, etc. etc. gone gone gone.

At least I can once again say that Ottawa still hasn't beaten the Leafs in the playoffs. I'm sure that role this year will fall to the 7th or 8th place team. Ah Ottawa, Canada's Buffalo.

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(how many times have the Canucks made HNiC?)

If they played games on the wet coast at 4, perhaps they would be.


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posted 30 March 2006 04:20 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Ah Ottawa, Canada's Buffalo.

quote:
(how many times have the Canucks made HNiC?)

This year, they've been the second game on HNIC more often than not. The Leafs are always the first game b/c they play every Saturday night.

P.S blame the CBC for not switching it up in non-Leafs region. Or is the whole country Leafs region..lol


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posted 30 March 2006 04:36 PM      Profile for chester the prairie shark     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Allison, Lindros, and O'Neill would pan out

But Thomas, this is the thing. who except leaf fans thought that these were big player signings? Lindros?

the flyers signing Forsberg. big move.
the rangers getting jagr. big move.
the sharks getting thorton. big move.
the senators signing Heatly. big move.

but allison was marginally a point a game guy before he starting getting hurt and missing huge chunks of seasons....Lindros....who possibly thought that eric lindros is still or ever was an elite player? and yet the leafs management present these aquisitions as some kind of blockbuster????

i hope the leafs do trade Sundin, he's an excellent player and an all around nice guy and he deserves to play for a team with a legitimate shot at winning it all. (channel Bob Cole here) "Sundin centres the puck...Iginla Scores!!!!!! the Calgary Flames win the Stanley Cup"


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posted 30 March 2006 04:43 PM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You Leaf fans are right. You have always approached NHL rivalry with grace and dignity. You never take age-old gibes too seriously. It's perfectly reasonable to be languishing in tenth or eleventh place and then bring up how you beat the Senators in the playoffs four years ago. Even though the Senators have beat you every time this year at an approximate combined score of 135-4. That makes me smile, and I hate Ottawa.

Who's bandwagoning? Only the Leafs think that not jumping on some other bandwagon is a trial, because for them, it really is. They have to convince themselves that Tucker plays "with heart" and not "with shittiness." I do feel your struggle. Believe me, I do.

I think these anti-Leaf threads proliferate because of the righteous attitude (now I don't want to get carried away—I know it's all just a bit of fun) that Leaf fans put on when people dare insult their team. If someone were to start a thread against the Habs that said simply "ha-ha" (well they wouldn't, since we'll make the playoffs, but for comparative sake) I certainly wouldn't get on a soapbox on how dedicated we were and screw you all, and remember when we beat Toronto in 77? I would share my grief and insult our terrible, terrible players (Seriously, who hires Radek Bonk? Theodore for Aesbischer? Who's making these deals?) and get on with my life.


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posted 30 March 2006 04:49 PM      Profile for Tommy Shanks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well I'd agree to a point. Leafs management is more interested in filling seats and selling gee-gaws then getting a Forsberg. But, to be fair, I don't think management was selling these guys as 120-point players.

When I said pan out, considering what they were paying them, I (and I'm not speaking for other Leaf fans) thought if they could be solid, third line guys, the Leafs would be in pretty good shape.

In hindsight, if your top scorer is a defenseman not named Orr (!!), and Jason Allison (who makes Todd Gill look like the greatest skater in the world) is on your top line, you're up shits creek.


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posted 30 March 2006 04:56 PM      Profile for chester the prairie shark     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
ok, (and i'm continuing this conversation not out of meanspirtedness, i don't hate the leafs) why is it that the leafs management do not want to win? why would they bother signing second and third line players when sundin is the only leaf that can be described as an elite player, they need to sign top flight players and have a dangerous first line before they start worrying about the third and fourth line, no?
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Because Larry Tanenbaum and his lacky Richard Peddie are more interested in Condo projects, or their TV network, or their basketball team. Plus the teachers pension doesn't care if they win or not as long as the dough rolls in.

Peddie's hockey stooge JFJ is the same as Mike Babcock was on the Craptors side. I still am flabbergasted that they hired Colangelo, someone smart(!), capable (!!) and talented (!!!) to run the basketball side of things. Get rid of Peddie, hire someone who knows what they're doing and go to work, without the meddling from MLSE, and eventually the Leafs will win a bit.


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posted 30 March 2006 05:07 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Agreed. JFJ is a stooge, and MSLE excersises too much top-down control.
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posted 30 March 2006 05:39 PM      Profile for Stereo Type     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JPG:

Tucker ... [is] all aroun, he can score, he can be a role player, he has charisma, and he can drop the gloves.


Wow ... maybe he should give up on hockey and become a male escort. I know nothing about hockey, but he sounds fantastic!


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posted 30 March 2006 06:06 PM      Profile for Vansterdam Kid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Pogo:

How many times are the Leafs not on Hockey Night in Canada? They impose themselves on the country as our annointed national team so when they fail so miserably no wonder the rest of us (how many times have the Canucks made HNiC?) like to have some fun.


[rant]Yeah I hate the decisions CBC makes. On the one hand they did a good job hiring Jim Hughson, but why did they have to let Chris Cuthbert go? Couldn't they have let Bob Cole go? He can't keep up with a game anymore, and whenever he's calling a Leafs vs. Canucks game he always gets confused and calls the Sedin twins the “Sundin twins” or Markus Naslund "Mats Naslund". Not to mention the fact that half of every European player in international hockey is usually "The Slovakian* Player". (*Or Whatever country) really.

Worse yet, watching Bob Cole and Harry Neal call a game and Bob Cole pretending to be "neutral". Le Barf! It was funny when Montreal pretty much destroyed their playoff hopes last week. Bob Cole was all excited that his favourite team was winning 1-0, then voila, they lost the game 6-2, and he had to calm down. Ha! I also find it annoying how HNiC always decides that the Leafs game is going to be the national headliner, regardless of entertainment value. For instance say there's a game between Toronto and Florida -- the 'Craptacular Cup', and say there's a game between Ottawa and Philadelphia. Of course the nation gets to see the Toronto game, because it's not as if the Ottawa vs. Philly game is going to be leagues ahead in both talent and quality or anything. And one more super annoying thing that they do is they keep showing the Leafs game, even if it cuts into the western Game. Well, screw that, I don't give a rats ass about the Leafs. Let the western affiliates change to the western game, jeesh.

P.S.Oh yeah, and Don Cherry isn't worth any of our tax dollars either. So why does he get 700K to talk incoherently for about 15 minutes a week? 9 or so months a year?[/rant]


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posted 30 March 2006 06:15 PM      Profile for Scout     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's all about money, we have the most fans, we make money. We get HNIC. Deal with it. We don't even have to win a Cup and we are more popular than all the other loser Canadian teams in Canada and you all can't stand it. Ha!
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posted 30 March 2006 06:32 PM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Keep telling yourself that Scout.
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posted 30 March 2006 06:45 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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And one more super annoying thing that they do is they keep showing the Leafs game, even if it cuts into the western Game. Well, screw that, I don't give a rats ass about the Leafs. Let the western affiliates change to the western game, jeesh.

Maybe Kandaharper can help you there. After all, 'the west is in' now, right?


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posted 30 March 2006 07:21 PM      Profile for Vansterdam Kid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ha, yeah. If he's going to make cuts, I'd say HNiC would be the place to do it!

BTW, Scout, that's a funny comment considering the fact that the Leafs may not even finish above .500.


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posted 30 March 2006 07:22 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's still true, though.
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posted 30 March 2006 07:31 PM      Profile for Vansterdam Kid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, I know that the Leafs have fans everywhere. Leafs fans are one of Toronto's major exports to the rest of the country! It's one of the mystery's of the Universe, it's not as if the Leafs have been entertaining since the 60's or anything. But yet, they persist. It's mysterious in the same way that the Leafs fans always think that "this is our year".

But to claim that everyone elses teams are loosers (even though I have a love/hate relationship with mine), when technically it isn't true, is just hilarious. I'm just enjoying a little schadenfreude, after all that was Papal Bull's point yes? (To be perfectly honest though, I dislike the Flames, Oilers, Avs and Wild more then "Canada's Team").

Hey, that reminds me, aren't the Leafs the worst Candian team right now? Oh yeah I do believe they are! *snicker*...Carry on.

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posted 30 March 2006 07:39 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Let's not start this thread all over again, now.
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posted 30 March 2006 07:48 PM      Profile for Vansterdam Kid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh come on, it's just a little harmlous fun. Is anyone really insulted? Then again we are Canadian, so we've gotta watch out.

P.S. The CBC needs to let Greg Millen go too, he's a horrible colour guy - a giant annoyance. I'd even rather have Harry Neale. It's a good thing Jim Hughson balances him out with his great play-by-play otherwise HNiC would be next to unwatchable. He either says the most inane or most obvious things that he's just a bother to listen to. Or he gets all excited about the most stupid things, it's just bizzare. I say they should hire John Garrett, at least he's intresting!


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Can't say I've thought alot about the colour commentary. I'm a Leafs fan, I've had enough to worry about this season.
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Speaking of the Leafs again, if JFJ is such a horrible GM, and GM's usually last at least five years, and he only got hired a few years ago, doesn't that mean the Leafs have no chance to do well for the next few years?
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posted 30 March 2006 08:40 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heh, this is JUST like family dinners!
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posted 30 March 2006 08:53 PM      Profile for Scout     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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But to claim that everyone elses teams are loosers (even though I have a love/hate relationship with mine), when technically it isn't true, is just hilarious. I'm just enjoying a little schadenfreude, after all that was Papal Bull's point yes? (To be perfectly honest though, I dislike the Flames, Oilers, Avs and Wild more then "Canada's Team").

Hey, that reminds me, aren't the Leafs the worst Candian team right now? Oh yeah I do believe they are! *snicker*...Carry on.


If you want to devote a whole thread to mocking Leafs fans don't whine when you getting back. An American team has won the Cup how many of the last 10 years? And that makes everybody else here's teams winner how? I'll stand by the loser comment, don't dish it if you can't take it or you can serve two minutes for unsportsmanlike whining.


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Oh, I can take it hell I complain about the Canucks all the time, but I rather like dishing it out more so. And hey it just depends on your definition of winning, so far its only been used in a real general sense "winning". So in one way your right, no Canadian team has won the Cup for years thus everyone is a looser. Otoh, the only Canadian team that's going to finish with a loosing record this year is the Leafs so only they are loosers (yes, I had to include that one more time ).
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Does that count OT and shootout losses, because the shootout is just a gimmick and doesn't count.
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posted 30 March 2006 11:18 PM      Profile for John_D     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To my way of thinking, the fact that Leafs fans are so darn committed is a big part of the reason they haven't won in almost 40 years. If the Leafs are going to sell out every home date regardless of whether they're in first or tenth, and if costs are controlled (which they now are), why put in an effort to build a winning team? Obviously, the fans don't care too much whether their team is good or not, so why should management? Just make sure there are always a couple of really popular/relatively cheap guys around on the second or third line that you can use to market the team.

If the Leafs are ever going to be forced to compete seriously - not for a spot in the playoffs, but for a Cup - Leafs fans will need to punish the team when it's bad by not going to games. Doesn't mean you stop liking the team - hell, you can even watch on TV if you like. Just don't go to the games. Make them earn their ticket money, and they will.


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posted 30 March 2006 11:42 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That would seem like the thing to do. But then we don't even have the claim of having the most dedicated fan base. What to do, what to do...

Also, I was watching TSN and somebody (Gino Redda maybe) was talking about how Quinn and JFJ might not even be fired! That pissed me off.


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Vansterdam Kid
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posted 30 March 2006 11:54 PM      Profile for Vansterdam Kid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JPG:
Does that count OT and shootout losses, because the shootout is just a gimmick and doesn't count.

But ties are like kissing your sister.


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Briguy
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posted 31 March 2006 09:01 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by chester the prairie shark:
and furthermore, this love of Darcy Tucker just kills me. that guy is a forgetabble third liner of which there are dozens of and yet leafs fans are always "tucker, tucker, tucker"

We love to watch him fall down. He does that enough, and we have to hang on to something.


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fern hill
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posted 31 March 2006 09:20 AM      Profile for fern hill        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you came to hockey consciousness in the time of the Original Six, there were only two choices, Habs or Leafs. Being a Hab fan in Toronto was eccentric and (barely) tolerable. Being a Bruin fan, for example, was to risk serious repercussion.

/drift/ When the Royal Mint put an illustration of Roch Carrier's story on the five, I was delighted. How many countries have an illustration from a piece of fiction about a game on their currency? D /end drift/


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posted 31 March 2006 09:51 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was at the ScotiaBank rink last night and sat in section 112 with the two nephews. Nature called and we missed two of the five goals scored. The popcorn was a ripoff at $4.50 a bag. Every third corn was either burnt or unpopped. Jagr wasn't on the ice for the pre-game warmup and Chara was a scratch.
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JPG
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posted 31 March 2006 09:54 AM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Chara was a scratch.

Wimp broke his hand in a fight. You'll never see Darcy Tucker do that (although Jason Allison will).


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chester the prairie shark
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posted 31 March 2006 10:28 AM      Profile for chester the prairie shark     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As to HNiC, I really like Kelly Hrudey as a commentator.

I was somewhat surprised and delighted to see that the Sen's beat the rangers last nite. they have a few big injuries (is any injury to chara automatically a "big" injury?)and yet they handed them their hat....nice.


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posted 31 March 2006 11:34 AM      Profile for dackle        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Wimp broke his hand in a fight. You'll never see Darcy Tucker do that

Yeah, he usually turtles before any punches are thrown.


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posted 31 March 2006 11:52 AM      Profile for Tommy Shanks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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if JFJ is such a horrible GM, and GM's usually last at least five years, and he only got hired a few years ago, doesn't that mean the Leafs have no chance to do well for the next few years?

Yes, he is. And I hope to God he isn't around in two years.

His "plan" was to amass some cap room (which, to be fair, he's did) for next year. Then he'd go out and get some of the top free-agents next year (Thorton, Heatley, Gagne, Richards, etc. I can't remember all the names, so correct me if I'm wrong).

Problem was many of those signed long-term deals with their present team, rather then take a chance on the open market next year. So to the back-up plan.

Which was sign Lindros, Allison, and O'Neill, to cheap deals and dress it up like MLSE was doing something.

I may sound bitter, but this reminds me of the period before they hired Cliff Fletcher.


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posted 31 March 2006 01:43 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
As to HNiC, I really like Kelly Hrudey as a commentator.

I will only accept him as a commentator if he wears his goali mask when he's on camera. That guy had one of the best mask painting ever.


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Marc
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posted 31 March 2006 03:24 PM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I liked Brian Hayward's mask better...

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Tommy Shanks
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posted 31 March 2006 04:28 PM      Profile for Tommy Shanks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Best mask? Finally a serious topic!!

Muray Bannerman

Gerry Cheevers

or Mike Palmateer

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posted 31 March 2006 04:37 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Couldn't fina a great pic, but this mask was great, being and LA team and all.

Ok, nevermind, I don't know how to put an image in.

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Marc
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posted 31 March 2006 05:08 PM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
With a name like JPG I thought you would know how to insert a picture.

My way of doing it was to right click on the picture that I saw and click on the properties which would allow you to see the URL of the picture. Copy the URL and once on babble press the IMG button and paste the URL of the picture there.


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posted 31 March 2006 05:39 PM      Profile for Norse of 60     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bad boy Marc.

Only losers hotlink.

Get a photobucket account to host your stolen images.


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JPG
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posted 31 March 2006 05:41 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here goes nothing...


[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\John Paul\My Documents\My Pictures[/IMG]

gawddammit..

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Marc
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posted 31 March 2006 05:48 PM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Bad boy Marc.
Only losers hotlink.

Get a photobucket account to host your stolen images.


I guess I am a pretty bad boy...this would probably be the 2nd time in my 5 years here that I have done it.


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posted 31 March 2006 07:50 PM      Profile for sandpiper     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

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posted 01 April 2006 03:26 AM      Profile for Rambler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JPG:
That's cool PB, get your shots in while you can, for the mighty Blue and White will rise again. We still have the best fan loyalty (not to mention corporate season ticket holders..lol) in the NHL, rivalled only by Detroit, the Rangers, and I guess a few others.

When the Senators go down the shitter, they will have problems filling their seats. Montreal too, as demonstrated a few year ago.

Long live TML!!!



Mwahaha. Rise again. haha that's funny. I guess the Leafs will be good again in no time because they have such a strong group of prospects coming up.

The Maple Leafs were always mortgaging the future to win today. Now that there is a salary cap, all that is left is an empty shell of a team, and all the Leafs millions can't help buy their way out of the hole they dug.


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Once again, the money will always be there, becaus TML fans will always be there. The proof is the last 40 years . I remember there was talk of Montreal moving a few years back, and what other Canadian franchises would be at risk if their teams went down the shitter.

We will always have the money, all we need is some good decision makers at the top.


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posted 01 April 2006 05:23 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In other hockey news, Ovechkin is just crazy.. Can't wait to see what other records he will break.
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posted 01 April 2006 11:14 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tabernouche, but I guess dat Jean-Sebastien Aubain goaler could be the French-Canadian guy I said that the Leaves need.

The Blue guys sure were skating tonight. They had the forecheck going and usually beat the Sabres to the puck.

Belak won the fight too.

I pity the team the Leafs meet in the first round of the playoffs.


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posted 01 April 2006 11:23 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:
I pity the team the Leafs meet in the first round of the playoffs.

Was a relegation round* part of the new collective agreement?

* Wherein the worst teams in international hockey engage in a series of "playoff games" in order to avoid being shipped to the B Pool for the following year.


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posted 03 April 2006 09:16 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If only, Scott, if only. I'm sure the various national football federations have their own set of problems, but I like the football promotion/relegation model. At least as compared to the current "which city will bribe us the most?" model used to place North American sports franchises.
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quote:
Originally posted by chester the prairie shark:
why would they bother signing second and third line players when sundin is the only leaf that can be described as an elite player, they need to sign top flight players and have a dangerous first line before they start worrying about the third and fourth line, no?[/QB]

They needed goaltending. What have they got ? The leafs have 40-something year old Ed Balfour and his multi-million dollar contract with a no-trade clause. They need to unload dead weight, and they should start with whoever master-minded that deal.

The leafs were a decent team during the 2004 season. The game has changed since then, but the Leafs didn't.


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It'll only cost them $1.5 million to buy out Belfour I believe. I think that would be money well spent.
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posted 06 April 2006 08:28 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The phrase that struck dread in my Maple Leaf heart was: “I'm the CEO, it's my fiduciary duty . . .” That's Richard Peddie, head of Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment (the Leafs and Raptors). He's using a weasel/legal term employed for years by managers at Ontario's Teachers Pension Plan, to tell actual classroom teachers to blow it out their ear whenever they complained about their pension money being plowed into the anti-teacher, anti-union Toronto Sun, tobacco companies, polluting coal plants or Ritalin.

Rick Salutin


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posted 06 April 2006 09:07 AM      Profile for Kevin_Laddle   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

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posted 06 April 2006 09:14 AM      Profile for aRoused     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I'm sure the various national football federations have their own set of problems, but I like the football promotion/relegation model.

Funny you should mention that, I was listening to the sports news the other day and thinking 'If they didn't have that promotion/relegation system, they could organize their signing of new players like the NHL draft, and you wouldn't have this hand-wringing over whether Chelsea is too rich and too powerful'. You win some you lose some?

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Maybe they need a roster salary cap? Of course, that would require the agreement of all the national federations, which would be nigh impossible.
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posted 06 April 2006 12:31 PM      Profile for Norse of 60     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Briguy:
Maybe they need a roster salary cap?


I think the Leafs need an age/injury cap.....a complex formula that generates a number based on their players age and how injury prone they are.


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Mike Palmateer was the best leaf ever. They lost most of the time, but you could always count on Palmateer to skate out to the blueline to chase the puck and then try to stick handle his way past the opposition. He was an exciting player.
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posted 06 April 2006 04:00 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
as good as place as any to mention this: borje salming is going to play an exhibition game for charity where i'm living in england next week. some other guy on salming's team is the main draw, cobby bull, bobby null, something like that.
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