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Michelle
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posted 29 July 2007 05:36 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So, did anyone see it this weekend? I took my son to see it yesterday. I thought it was excellent. The audience was applauding and laughing through the whole thing, and everyone cheered and applauded at the end of the movie.

I think my favorite part was the church scene at the beginning. Despite the thread title, I won't give away the best lines. We should have some sort of "garbage text" for the beginning of spoiler posts so that no spoilers show up on TAT!


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posted 29 July 2007 06:01 AM      Profile for The Wizard of Socialism   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I went. It was ok. It could have been edgier. And I didn't buy the dome concept at all. I can suspend reality as much as the next person, but come one! I had the same problem with ths sunblocker from the Who Shot Mr. Burns two-parter. When the main conflict is built on such a flimsy and hard to believe premise, it's all downhill from there. Fifteen Bucks was a little much for the popcorn/soda/reese's pieces combo. Even if it did come with a swell temporary tattoo.

ETA - BUT, if I had to pick out one moment that really made me laugh, it was when Bart put that black bra on his head so it looked like he was Mickey Mouse and said: "I'm the mascot of an evil corporation!" That's ten bucks worth of funny right there.

[ 29 July 2007: Message edited by: The Wizard of Socialism ]


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posted 29 July 2007 07:52 AM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by The Wizard of Socialism:
I went. It was ok. It could have been edgier. And I didn't buy the dome concept at all. I can suspend reality as much as the next person, but come one! I had the same problem with ths sunblocker from the Who Shot Mr. Burns two-parter. When the main conflict is built on such a flimsy and hard to believe premise, it's all downhill from there. Fifteen Bucks was a little much for the popcorn/soda/reese's pieces combo. Even if it did come with a swell temporary tattoo.

ETA - BUT, if I had to pick out one moment that really made me laugh, it was when Bart put that black bra on his head so it looked like he was Mickey Mouse and said: "I'm the mascot of an evil corporation!" That's ten bucks worth of funny right there.

[ 29 July 2007: Message edited by: The Wizard of Socialism ]


Wizard, it's a cartoon, relax.

President Shwarzeneggar is also unrealistic. As is the government nuking a small town and noone noticing. You mnust have been perspiring heavily.

I liked when Flanders made the amazing hot coco, they don't do them like that at starbucks!

I also liked how hey portrayed Alaska, and the environmental presentations.


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posted 29 July 2007 09:00 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought the Tom Hanks TV ad was hilarious. He says that because the government has no credibility, they've hired him to relay their message.
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Will S
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posted 30 July 2007 11:11 AM      Profile for Will S        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Spoiler alert (maybe)

What did people think of the Alaskan Inuit woman character Homer encounters? I thought the movie made a couple of funny anti-racist jokes early on, but I was a bit uneasy about this particular segment. Am I reading too much into it or were others wincing just a bit when Homer called her "Big Boob Lady" and joked around about throat singing?

Other than that, I thought the movie was great. Some moments lived up to the classic seasons of the Simpsons in the early to mid 90s. Some gags fell flat, but my friends and I came away pleasantly surprised with its quality.


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Michelle
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posted 30 July 2007 11:37 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh yeah. I'd forgotten about that. Yeah, that made me cringe, actually. Probably the only part of the movie that didn't really make me laugh. (Well, okay, the pointing boobs kind of did because they made my kid laugh. But I have big boobs, so I'm allowed to laugh at big boob jokes. )
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posted 30 July 2007 07:39 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I haven't seen that many simpsons episodes, but I have to say that as a sumation of nearly twenty years of highly influential TV it wasn't really all that great. there should have been more social commentary. Most of the film was taken up with slapstick and angst about how disfunctional Bart's home life is.

Are most Simpsons episodes like the movie, and if they are, why the heck is the show so popular?

[ 31 July 2007: Message edited by: CMOT Dibbler ]


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posted 30 July 2007 08:46 PM      Profile for BetterRed     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Are most Simpsons episodes like the movie, and if they are, why the heck is the show so popular?



Dont mean to upset ya, but its not popular anymore.
For a span of last 7 or 8 years/seasons the episodes have been terrible.
There are many reasons why, but what irks me the most is how they stretch out the same joke for a very long time, almost as if theryre begging for a laugh.
The 300 something episodes were funnier and had more social commentary, I think.
The spoof of 24 was amazing

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Will S
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posted 31 July 2007 05:55 AM      Profile for Will S        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by CMOT Dibbler:
Are most Simpsons episodes like the movie, and if they are, why the heck is the show so popular?

It's true that over the last 7 or 8 years the quality of the show has not been all that great, but it's still relatively popular because the first 7 or 8 seasons, especially, were so superb and culturally relevant. My friends and I (and a lot of other people I know) virtually talked using Simpsons quotes and allusions to famous episodes for most of our lives. Every now and then there are truly funny moments on the show, and the goodwill it generated in the 90s still makes people tune in now and then. It's not Must See TV anymore, but still better than a lot of crud out there.

I personally liked the site gags and one-liners, and I think there was a good degree of social commentary in the film. But it's hard to please everyone because everyone has a different idea of the best kind of Simpsons episode. I think they tried to please as many fans as they could with the film. If you want to get an idea of why the Simpsons were so popular, I suggest checking out Seasons 3-7 on DVD. It's really amazing how consistently funny and biting they were.


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posted 31 July 2007 05:58 AM      Profile for jrose     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When T.V Goes Hollywood, The Tyee.
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posted 31 July 2007 10:02 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As I've said, I haven't seen many episodes, but my sister says that the show has dealt with issues like gun control and the right to strike. One episode I did see (well, I only saw part of it, truth be told) dealt with religion and it's relationship to guilt, with Lisa desperately afraid that Marge would go to hell because the woman stole a grape at the grocery store. Of course, unions, guns and God are divisive, and the environment, while it may be an important issue, is not. Everyone wants clean air and water. They chose a nice safe topic to deal with, they didn't make the audience think.

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I think there was a good degree of social commentary in the film.

[ 31 July 2007: Message edited by: CMOT Dibbler ]


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posted 31 July 2007 11:13 AM      Profile for Will S        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by CMOT Dibbler:
They chose a nice safe topic to deal with, they didn't make the audience think.

True enough, but with 400+ episodes, they've already tackled a lot of divisive issues. Even though the environment has been the focus of previous Simpsons episodes it has enough depth and current cache to be handled again. I'm not sure what particularly divisive issue they haven't done as a major story arc that they could tackle in a funny way for a movie. The big thing that sticks out in my mind is terrorism or the war in Iraq or Afghanistan, but I'm not sure even the Simpsons' writers could handle something that is still so raw. Although maybe they have. I've missed some episodes in the last few years. I heard one reviewer say there was a classic TV episode kicking around in there, but it was lost in all the padding. Still, like the Tyee article aid, with expectations set so high, it would be hard not to miss some of them. Again, having been terribly underwhelmed by the past several seasons, this movie offered some belly laughs that have been sorely missing. In my opinion it was a very good, but not a classic film.


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posted 07 August 2007 08:27 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One quibble: I thought the president should have been Ranier Wolfcastle, rather than the "real" Arnie, since Ranier is/was obviously the show's version of Arnie.

Unfortunately, it didn't run at a laugh-a-minute pace, which the show normally (with better episodes) does. Ergo, I wish I'd just waited for the DVD.


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posted 07 August 2007 08:30 AM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So I saw the movie and it isn't bad. However, I really hate it when they put ALL THE FUNNY BITS in the trailers.

If you've seen the trailers, don't bother going.


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posted 07 August 2007 12:37 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
So I saw the movie and it isn't bad. However, I really hate it when they put ALL THE FUNNY BITS in the trailers.

I think it's a symptom of another problem: not enough funny bits.


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posted 07 August 2007 12:43 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The only major funny bit in the movie that wasn't in the trailers was the funny bit where we saw Bart's funny bit.

And it was funny. Uproariously funny. For a bit.


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posted 07 August 2007 12:49 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's awesome. The best review I've read yet of the Simpsons Movie, and it's two lines long.

[ 07 August 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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posted 07 August 2007 01:27 PM      Profile for Makwa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Will S:
What did people think of the Alaskan Inuit woman character Homer encounters? I thought the movie made a couple of funny anti-racist jokes early on, but I was a bit uneasy about this particular segment. Am I reading too much into it or were others wincing just a bit when Homer called her "Big Boob Lady" and joked around about throat singing?
I found it typically irritating, as the segment sounded nothing like throat singing, throat singing is not a 'religious' practice (it's more like a game) and the psychadelic background totem poles and other images have nothing to do with Inuit culture. This was merely a takeoff on Homer's 'Carlos Castenata' voyage after eating the hottest chile pepper, blah blah. Simply another lame takeoff on FN culture, with a bit of X-file reference thrown in. It tires me to see FN cultural references thrown in for comedic effect without having FN characters who are at least in on the irony. In any case, the movie was boring and mediocre, like most of their mass produced cartoons.

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posted 12 August 2007 08:54 AM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually, I found the film pretty average, which is bad for the Simpsons.

What they did to the Trailer Park Boys in their movie, they did to the Simpsons. The plot was basically the same as any other family adventure film. There were some clever jokes (the Spider Pig was particularly funny -- especially when Homer suggested they kiss), but the movie got a bit irritating in taking up all the Hollywood conventions. Even the hint of irony or parody wasn't really that strong.

As an episode, it would have been so-so.

The inuit lady was a bit too much and too uncomfortably close to stereotype. They should have gone with the Johnny Cash coyote that Homer encounter years ago.


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quote:
Originally posted by ceti:

The inuit lady was a bit too much and too uncomfortably close to stereotype. They should have gone with the Johnny Cash coyote that Homer encounter years ago.

I think they were trying to emulate that without copying themselves but, where the coyote vision quest was funny and a bit edgy, the Inuit vision quest looked like cultural appropriation. I don't know how they avoided that impression the first time and failed to the second. It might have been because they used an "Inuit woman" as the avatar rather than an animal or spirit or perhaps it's just my perspective as a Canadian who is more aware of Inuit issues than of Metzito ones.


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quote:
Originally posted by aka Mycroft:
I don't know how they avoided that impression the first time
Prolly 'cause Carlos Casteneda was a fraud, so a parody based on his writing can't really appropriate anything.

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What if you didn't know that?
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