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al-Qa'bong
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posted 28 May 2003 03:06 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now that this section is no longer "pop" culture, but is now called "arts and culture," I feel I can at last raise this terribly controversial issue.

I find that the first versions of any piece that I have heard are the only ones that sound "right" to me. Evelyne Crochet's Satie recordings and Bernard Haitink and the Concertgebouw Orch. playing Beethoven's violin concerto, for example, sound normal to me, as I listened to them many times, many years ago, before hearing anyone else play them.

I find other renditions jarring.

I know some people have preferences based on the technical skill, talent and style of the performers, but I usually like the one I first got to know.

How about you?


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scrabble
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posted 28 May 2003 03:30 AM      Profile for scrabble     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's just weird, you freak Hopefully jazz doesn't imprint on your mind in the same way, or your life could get complicated, couldn't it?

So now that you know this, are you especially careful to choose a good recording when you approach new stuff? What jars, exactly? Is it the difference in tempo, dynamics, colour, what?

I'm just a bit quirky, meself. If I feel in the mood for cold and mechanical / pure and clean, the recording has to correlate - Kissin, say. If I feel in the mood for BIG, then it's - I dunno - Ashkenazy or someone like that.

Sometimes I don't mind the extraneous vocalizations of Gould and Jarrett. Some days I can't hack their meowing and humming.

Jarrett. He actually gets up off his bench and starts doing this embarrassing kicking thing while crouched over the keyboard, like a half-assed can-can. I thought he was going to lose his balance and keel over.


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 28 May 2003 03:42 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Usually it has to do with tone, pacing and tempo. Some recordings have little quirks to them that I'm not used to -like the way that two-note pizzicato bit is played in the Beethoven violin concerto.

I find jazz nothing like classical music in this respect. I don't know how many versions of "I Got Rhythm" I've heard, but I like most of them.


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posted 28 May 2003 12:43 PM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There is proof that fetuses exposed to certain sounds in later pregnancy retain preferences toward those that they find pleasant. Babies recognize the voices of people who were around the mother during the last months and show positive leanings toward the kinds of music they were exposed to in the womb. This may extend to certain versions of music that they've heard as well.

Imprinting and the tendancy to be imprinted may go back as far as before birth. I find with classical music that my expectations are different than with other kinds of music. In other words, the piece I heard first to me seems to be the way it's supposed to be. I've also found some versions somehow familiar, even though I don't recall having heard them before.


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posted 28 May 2003 01:28 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I tend to prefer the Beatles versions of the Lennon/McCartney songbook.
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scrabble
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posted 28 May 2003 11:02 PM      Profile for scrabble     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Daily pre-natal Beethoven's Fifth, here. (Karajan 1961/62 cycle, if you must know.) This may explain some aspects of my personality

All my parents had to do to stop my bawling (as a kid, understand) was put on the Fifth reel-to-reel (+ vacuum tube speakers!). There's film footage of this. Within two bars, I go from all-out-screaming-tonsil-showing-hell-bawl to rolling on the floor laughing. Weeeird.

However. I tend to prefer Norrington, say. And sometimes, I love the outlandish squareness and cthonic old-fashioned weight of Klemperer & co. You know? And I haven't touched the 1977 Karajan in years - it's too - I dunno - produced, or something.

I'm just fickle like that.


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 28 May 2003 11:57 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, scrabble, old droogie, I'm glad you said the Fifth, not the Ninth. [Little Alex smilie]
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