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Michelle
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posted 17 August 2004 12:53 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Has anyone seen this movie?

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"Don't be poisoned by their lies," says Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez in the last line of The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, referring to the way that the media corrupts the truth for the purpose of political persuasion. And thus the immediacy of this documentary - which consists of footage captured during a two-day period in April 2002 when Chavez was kidnapped from the presidential palace in Caracas and the media announced a successful coup - serves simply as a good example of media manipulation.

It's playing at the little theatre around the corner from me tonight, and I think I might check it out. Anyone seen it? Good? Bad?

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Fitz
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posted 17 August 2004 01:00 PM      Profile for Fitz     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hope this helps
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rasmus
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posted 17 August 2004 01:05 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought it was great -- I bought a copy right after I saw it. I remember reading the extraordinarily one-sided coverage in the New York Times during the events, and I remember the TV coverage. Watching this documentary blew me away. Sometimes you really don't want to believe the media live down to your cynicism. But sometimes they do. (One of the NY Times reporters was later fired -- he was a key organizer in the bourgeois opposition.)

I would use this video, along with NY Times coverage and US TV coverage, as part of any basic critical media course.

We've had threads on Babble posting critical views of Chavez from the left -- search the archive. I agree with many of the critics, but on balance, given the historical context, I think Chavez is a good thing.


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chimo
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posted 17 August 2004 03:47 PM      Profile for chimo        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Has anyone heard the song with the same title by Gil Scott-Heron? It's ever so cool.
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Baldfresh
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posted 17 August 2004 07:11 PM      Profile for Baldfresh   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
^^Yep! ( I think I mentioned that I liked Heron's "The Bottle" better in one of the music threads - and I do, its on a much higher level of funk )
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Lord Palmerston
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posted 18 August 2004 03:33 AM      Profile for Lord Palmerston     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I saw it at the Toronto Film Festival last fall and I thought it was very well done. Of course the documentary makers' sympathy for Chavez and the Bolivarian Revolution was obvious.

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Michelle
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posted 18 August 2004 08:04 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I agree with rasmus - the movie was really excellent. And you know, in the middle of it when the coup leaders were in the palace and they were showing the private media coverage of the whole thing, I was actually seething. I was so pissed off.

I felt better by the end of the movie, with Chavez's victory over them, but I was still pretty pissed off. What a bunch of frigging liars.


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Briguy
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posted 18 August 2004 08:15 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Halifax babblers:

You've probably already seen the flyers about town, but it bears repeating on this forum. The Revolution Will Not Be Televised is showing Monday August 23rd at 7:00 p.m. in the Park Lane Theatres.


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josh
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posted 18 August 2004 09:30 AM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sounds good. I'll add it to my list of "political movies" I never get to see except on video, either because it doesn't play near me or I just don't get the opportunity, such as The Fog of War, The Corporation, Outfoxed and, of course, Fahrenheit 911.
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Lord Palmerston
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posted 18 August 2004 03:40 PM      Profile for Lord Palmerston     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Josh,

This is just my opinion, but I think The Fog of War was overrated. Hardly the "hard hitting" documentary the critics seem to say it is.


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Michelle
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posted 18 August 2004 04:02 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Super Size Me is playing at that same little theatre around the corner from me this weekend, and on Monday and Tuesday, so I think I'll go see that on cheap night (Tuesday). One to add to your list, josh - another one of those political documentary-type movies, although this one is a little lighter and kind of funny from what I hear.

I'd also like to see Waiting For Martin since I missed it the first time out. I wonder if they'll ever get it at "my theatre"?

Great little theatre it is, too.

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posted 18 August 2004 04:49 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Super Size Me is an excellent film. You spend the first ten minutes laughing and the rest swearing off all junk food for the rest of your life.
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Michelle
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posted 18 August 2004 05:02 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sounds perfect to me! I actually broke down and took my kid to McDonald's once while he was staying with me for the summer. And I practically never eat there. Of course, the fact that it was right next door to the community centre where his day camp was located sure as heck didn't help. And, happily, they have a "grilled cheese sandwich" option for the happy meals, so at least he didn't have any of their putrid meat products.
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posted 18 August 2004 05:13 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle, as a Proud Albertan (tm) who knows his beef, I must register my strong disapproval of using the word 'meat' to describe the products served at Macdonalds.

A far more accurate description would be "Processed Butt Crack Lint with a Toe Jam Binding Agent".


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'lance
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posted 18 August 2004 05:14 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Or, as a Newfoundland friend of mine put it more succinctly, "lips 'n' arseholes."
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Michelle
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posted 18 August 2004 05:22 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Lips'n'ears" is what my father calls hot dogs.
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posted 18 August 2004 05:30 PM      Profile for Publically Displayed Name        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Uh ... not wanting to steer this thread in an undignified direction, but ...

Liked the doc, and also liked how it was, in its way, inherently self-implicating (at least to me) in that it struck me as being as happily and transparently pro-Chavez as the private Venzuelan TV staions are anti-Chavez.

Which is cool, especially since it won the PR/propaganda game by catching private VZ Tv in a gross lie (the part about who was doing the shooting, and why, at the big demonstration), and by winning huge points for Chavez by showing that whatever else he may be doing right or wrong, he is standing by the principles of free speech.

My wife's observation: the private TV stations were shown behaving the way one usually expects government owned stations to behave. It's a great doc just for turning that expectation on its head.


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Adam T
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posted 29 August 2004 10:37 PM      Profile for Adam T     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Other political and semi political documentaries that have come out this year. Most revolve around the U.S election, which probably isn't a surprise.

Not with current U.S Politics
1.The Corporation (Canadian film)
2.The Agronomist
3.With All Deliberate Speed
4.Control Room

Involved with current U.S politics
1.The Hunting of the President
2.Let's Get Frank
3.Orwell Rolls in his Grave
4.Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism
5.Uncovered: The War on Iraq
6.Bush's Brain

As far as I can tell, this has been a record year for documentaries being released into theatres, with about 50 documentaries coming out so far.


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