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Mr. Anonymous
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posted 01 July 2005 06:57 AM      Profile for Mr. Anonymous     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sure someone will disprove this if it can be disproven.

(from a forwarded e-mail)
Yahoo is now using something called "Web Beacons"
to track Yahoo Group users around the net and see what you're doing and where you are going similar to cookies. Yahoo is recording every website
and every group you visit.

Take a look at their updated privacy statement:
http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy

About half-way down the page, in the section on
cookies, you will see a link that says web beacons. Click on the phrase web beacons. That will bring you to a paragraph entitled "Outside the Yahoo Network." In this section you'll see a
little "click here to opt out" link that will let you "opt-out" of their new method of snooping.

Once you have clicked that link, you are exempted.
Notice the "Success" message on the top of the next page.

Be careful because on that page there is a "Cancel
Opt-out" button that, if clicked, will *undo* the opt-out.


From: Somewhere out there... Hey, why are you logging my IP address? | Registered: Jan 2004  |  IP: Logged
Crippled_Newsie
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posted 01 July 2005 10:25 AM      Profile for Crippled_Newsie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Turning off the browser's cookies will prevent Web beacons from tracking the user's activity. The Web beacon will still account for an anonymous visit, but the user's unique information will not be recorded.



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shinkutat
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posted 01 July 2005 06:19 PM      Profile for shinkutat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pretty sneaky...
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Vansterdam Kid
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posted 01 July 2005 06:55 PM      Profile for Vansterdam Kid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What if you regularly delete your cookies?
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Anchoress
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posted 01 July 2005 07:04 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Mr Anonymous! I just opted out.
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VanLuke
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posted 01 July 2005 07:13 PM      Profile for VanLuke     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Mr. Anonymous

webbeacons appears nowhere on my page. I clicked on your link. Do I have to log into yahoo first?


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Sara Mayo
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posted 01 July 2005 07:19 PM      Profile for Sara Mayo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The "web beacons" link is on that page whether you are logged-in or not. It is in the second paragraph under the Cookies section.

This:
http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/beacons/details.html
is the page that it links to, where you can click the opt-out link.

And this:
http://pclick.yahoo.com/p?optout
is the direct link to opt-out (again heed the warning not the click the "cancel" button.

[ 01 July 2005: Message edited by: Sara Mayo ]


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VanLuke
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posted 01 July 2005 09:55 PM      Profile for VanLuke     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
thank you Sarah.

Three more questions though:

I have several yahoo accts and I subscribed to 2010 Watch, which sends me emails to a gmail acct.

1) Since I just opted out, do they already have some data about me on file?

2) I assume it was done with cookies and having opted out it applies to all my yahoo email accts. Is this correct?

3) Related to 2): I sometimes log in to a yahoo acct from my other machine. Should I repeat what I just did on that machine>

Hope I don't sound too dumb.

[ 01 July 2005: Message edited by: VanLuke ]


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Mudd
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posted 13 July 2005 06:44 PM      Profile for Mudd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yahoo's very clever.

First, they sell people's e-mail adresses to a bunch of spammers, then increase their security to ensure that all messages from those same spammers end up in the junk mail.

Also, (and if someone can confirm this, it would be great) yahoo was apparently going under then got bailed out by the US government (reason: "Yahoo was the birth of the internet, we can't let that go under.")

Makes you wonder just who's collecting all that info.


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Yukoner
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posted 13 July 2005 06:52 PM      Profile for Yukoner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought Al Gore invented the internet?


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NOmore
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posted 15 July 2005 05:37 PM      Profile for NOmore     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Man, and I was worried about Google.

Any good alternative search engines?


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Sara Mayo
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posted 15 July 2005 05:44 PM      Profile for Sara Mayo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
2) I assume it was done with cookies and having opted out it applies to all my yahoo email accts. Is this correct?

3) Related to 2): I sometimes log in to a yahoo acct from my other machine. Should I repeat what I just did on that machine>


2) You are correct from what I understand.

3) Yes, you should opt-out on all computers (and all browsers) you use.


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VanLuke
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posted 15 July 2005 06:30 PM      Profile for VanLuke     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
thank you
From: Vancouver BC | Registered: Oct 2004  |  IP: Logged
Michelle
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posted 15 July 2005 07:08 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, I just opted out too!
From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
M. Spector
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posted 15 July 2005 10:04 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's more info about Yahoo's web beacons.

Notice also the advice regarding HTML-formatted email messages, and how you should opt for plain text email if you have the chance.


From: One millihelen: The amount of beauty required to launch one ship. | Registered: Feb 2005  |  IP: Logged

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